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Offline Sunny

Re: "Start by asking yourself what is a sceptic and work on from there"
« Reply #150 on: August 18, 2018, 01:06:15 PM »
I repeated it because despite being reported... And at least one mod seeing it... It eas not removed

Did you actually report it or did you just post it up on the threads a few times Davel?

Personally IMO two wrongs don't make a right.  I agree that Alice's post should be removed but I also think this post

Then prove it..... On the whole I don't see it ss a term of abuse... Jassi has just referred to herself as a sceptic on another thread

should be removed too since the reply giving evidence was.

http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=9990.msg480930#msg480930
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: "Start by asking yourself what is a sceptic and work on from there"
« Reply #151 on: August 18, 2018, 01:07:49 PM »
Did you actually report it or did you just post it up on the threads a few times Davel?

Personally IMO two wrongs don't make a right.  I agree that Alice's post should be removed but I also think this post

should be removed too since the reply giving evidence was.

http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=9990.msg480930#msg480930

I didnt say I had reported it...VS did

Offline Mr Gray

Re: "Start by asking yourself what is a sceptic and work on from there"
« Reply #152 on: August 18, 2018, 01:08:49 PM »
Did you actually report it or did you just post it up on the threads a few times Davel?

Personally IMO two wrongs don't make a right.  I agree that Alice's post should be removed but I also think this post

should be removed too since the reply giving evidence was.

http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=9990.msg480930#msg480930

then complain to the mods

Offline Mr Gray

Re: "Start by asking yourself what is a sceptic and work on from there"
« Reply #153 on: August 18, 2018, 01:10:42 PM »
They might and they might not. That;s the problem which underlies applying labels to people. It can lead to unfounded assumptions being made about them..

your post using the term supporters........so its ok for you to use labels
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I know the dictionary definition of 'sceptic' and am happy to say I am a sceptical person. I'm not prepared to say I'm a 'McCann sceptic' however, as defined by their supporters. That's because of the assumptions they make about those they label 'sceptics'. It's used as a term of abuse throughout the forum in my opinion.

Offline Sunny

Re: "Start by asking yourself what is a sceptic and work on from there"
« Reply #154 on: August 18, 2018, 01:12:28 PM »
your post using the term supporters........so its ok for you to use labels
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I know the dictionary definition of 'sceptic' and am happy to say I am a sceptical person. I'm not prepared to say I'm a 'McCann sceptic' however, as defined by their supporters. That's because of the assumptions they make about those they label 'sceptics'. It's used as a term of abuse throughout the forum in my opinion.

So are you saying that sceptic as a "term of abuse throughout the forum" then Davel?

AH OK Davel missed your quote on that. Mind I have to say having read G-Unit's examples it appears that she is correct in her assessment.

I see this working both ways as there is a lot of hostility here that you don't see when reading it as a non member.
« Last Edit: August 18, 2018, 01:21:19 PM by Sunny »
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: "Start by asking yourself what is a sceptic and work on from there"
« Reply #155 on: August 18, 2018, 01:18:01 PM »
So are you saying that sceptic as a "term of abuse throughout the forum" then Davel?

no ..you are wrong again..thats gunits post..read it again

Offline G-Unit

Re: "Start by asking yourself what is a sceptic and work on from there"
« Reply #156 on: August 18, 2018, 01:32:37 PM »
Labels have been used for a long tilime by many posters... It seems the only time you have a problem with it is if it's, applied to you...

I've never been keen on being labelled. or of labelling others. Labels rarely tell us anything useful and can be harmful in my opinion.
https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/alternative-truths/201005/why-its-dangerous-label-people
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: "Start by asking yourself what is a sceptic and work on from there"
« Reply #157 on: August 18, 2018, 01:38:39 PM »
I've never been keen on being labelled. or of labelling others. Labels rarely tell us anything useful and can be harmful in my opinion.
https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/alternative-truths/201005/why-its-dangerous-label-people

but you have referred to those who beleive the mccanns as supporters

Offline Sunny

Re: "Start by asking yourself what is a sceptic and work on from there"
« Reply #158 on: August 18, 2018, 02:50:23 PM »
then give us some instances of it being used as a term of abuse...cite.

G-Unit already put up a post with a list of very distasteful quotes of supporters abusing sceptics and the word sceptic.  This post was removed by someone. Why on earth should I take the time to search again if my post will be removed as G-Unit's was Davel?
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Offline Sunny

Re: "Start by asking yourself what is a sceptic and work on from there"
« Reply #159 on: August 18, 2018, 02:57:03 PM »
i havent seen the word sceptic used as a derogatory term...and as you cant supply cites...thats the end of it. we do however have an example here today of a very abusive post by jassi towrds supporters..as you ahve seen but chosen to ignore....how biased

I do not agree with what Jassi posted but then I do not agree with what I have read from the supporters.
« Last Edit: August 18, 2018, 05:43:18 PM by John »
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Offline G-Unit

Re: "Start by asking yourself what is a sceptic and work on from there"
« Reply #160 on: August 18, 2018, 05:45:08 PM »
your post using the term supporters........so its ok for you to use labels
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I know the dictionary definition of 'sceptic' and am happy to say I am a sceptical person. I'm not prepared to say I'm a 'McCann sceptic' however, as defined by their supporters. That's because of the assumptions they make about those they label 'sceptics'. It's used as a term of abuse throughout the forum in my opinion.

Do you deny being a McCann supporter?
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Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: "Start by asking yourself what is a sceptic and work on from there"
« Reply #161 on: August 18, 2018, 05:47:04 PM »
I've never been keen on being labelled. or of labelling others. Labels rarely tell us anything useful and can be harmful in my opinion.
https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/alternative-truths/201005/why-its-dangerous-label-people
I trust you will cease referring to “supporters “ on this forum then?
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline Mr Gray

Re: "Start by asking yourself what is a sceptic and work on from there"
« Reply #162 on: August 18, 2018, 05:48:14 PM »
Do you deny being a McCann supporter?

Is that a joke.... Have you read any of my posts

That's the difference between us...I'm quite happy to be open
and have the courage of my convictions.

Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: "Start by asking yourself what is a sceptic and work on from there"
« Reply #163 on: August 18, 2018, 05:51:42 PM »
Do you deny being a McCann supporter?
I consider myself a supportive person but feel the label “supporter” is used as a term of abuse and therefore wish to dissociate myself from this term, as I find it distasteful, offensive and extremely upsetting.
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline Mr Gray

Re: "Start by asking yourself what is a sceptic and work on from there"
« Reply #164 on: August 18, 2018, 05:57:12 PM »
Do you deny being a McCann supporter?

I'm more than happy to be labelled a McCann supporter.
« Last Edit: August 18, 2018, 10:04:48 PM by John »