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Offline Mr Gray

Re: What exactly are the repercussions of 'not being cleared' ?
« Reply #15 on: August 16, 2018, 11:37:27 AM »
Quote from: Angelo222 on August 16, 2018, 11:35:23 AM
That's a mute point because had they not presented themselves for interview they would have been arrested.
Opinion... They were  not arrested ...fact
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Offline G-Unit

Re: What exactly are the repercussions of 'not being cleared' ?
« Reply #16 on: August 16, 2018, 11:51:22 AM »
Quote from: Davel on August 16, 2018, 10:42:07 AM
GA misunderstood the evidence as has been cited many times

He wasn't the only one involved in the decision to make the McCanns arguidos, so why not name them all?
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: What exactly are the repercussions of 'not being cleared' ?
« Reply #17 on: August 16, 2018, 11:58:43 AM »
Quote from: G-Unit on August 16, 2018, 11:51:22 AM
He wasn't the only one involved in the decision to make the McCanns arguidos, so why not name them all?
I'm sure you are right but kizzy was quoting amaral and he's the one who has spoken in public and shown his misunderstanding
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Offline jassi

Re: What exactly are the repercussions of 'not being cleared' ?
« Reply #18 on: August 16, 2018, 11:59:38 AM »
Quote from: G-Unit on August 16, 2018, 11:51:22 AM
He wasn't the only one involved in the decision to make the McCanns arguidos, so why not name them all?

Was it the co-coordinator's decision, or that of the Prosecutor ?
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: What exactly are the repercussions of 'not being cleared' ?
« Reply #19 on: August 16, 2018, 12:10:12 PM »
Quote from: kizzy on August 16, 2018, 11:36:13 AM

What you don't know is - exactly what the evidence he knows about is.

He was not a one man band.

IMO if that was the case why - are the mccanns not cleared of any involvement then.

What we know for certain is he did not understand  the important evidence.... What  does that say about his ability to reach a valid conclusion
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Offline Robittybob1

Re: What exactly are the repercussions of 'not being cleared' ?
« Reply #20 on: August 16, 2018, 01:15:57 PM »
Quote from: jassi on August 16, 2018, 11:59:38 AM
Was it the co-coordinator's decision, or that of the Prosecutor ?
The PJ make the immediate decision and they have 10 days to get a judge to agree.  That is how I understand how it worked.
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Offline Brietta

Re: What exactly are the repercussions of 'not being cleared' ?
« Reply #21 on: August 16, 2018, 01:18:32 PM »
Quote from: kizzy on August 16, 2018, 11:36:13 AM

What you don't know is - exactly what the evidence he knows about is.

He was not a one man band.

IMO if that was the case why - are the mccanns not cleared of any involvement then.

If Amaral was not a one man band who took it upon himself to defame legally innocent people ... why do you set so much store by what he says?

He was sacked from Madeleine's case by his superiors in the Policia Judiciaria so why you would think his opinion is of value ... his superiors most certainly did not.

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Gonçalo Amaral, coordinator of the Judicial Police of Portimão, was dismissed this afternoon, after criticizing investigators of the English police who collaborate in investigations into the disappearance of Madeleine McCann, confirmed the PUBLIC.
https://www.publico.pt/2007/10/02/sociedade/noticia/maddie-coordenador-da-pj-de-portimao-demitido-apos-criticas-a-policia-inglesa-1306369
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Offline barrier

Re: What exactly are the repercussions of 'not being cleared' ?
« Reply #22 on: August 16, 2018, 01:24:15 PM »
Quote from: Brietta on August 16, 2018, 01:18:32 PM
If Amaral was not a one man band who took it upon himself to defame legally innocent people ... why do you set so much store by what he says?

He was sacked from Madeleine's case by his superiors in the Policia Judiciaria so why you would think his opinion is of value ... his superiors most certainly did not.

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Wheres the legal judgement he'd defamed anyone?
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Offline Robittybob1

Re: What exactly are the repercussions of 'not being cleared' ?
« Reply #23 on: August 16, 2018, 01:27:10 PM »
Quote from: barrier on August 16, 2018, 01:24:15 PM
Wheres the legal judgement he'd defamed anyone?
IMO The SC judges agreed he did, but Amaral's right to free speech over ruled the right for the McCanns to a good name.
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: What exactly are the repercussions of 'not being cleared' ?
« Reply #24 on: August 16, 2018, 01:30:01 PM »
Quote from: Robittybob1 on August 16, 2018, 01:27:10 PM
IMO The SC judges agreed he did, but Amaral's right to free speech over ruled the right for the McCanns to a good name.

I agree...
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Offline barrier

Re: What exactly are the repercussions of 'not being cleared' ?
« Reply #25 on: August 16, 2018, 01:31:49 PM »
Quote from: Robittybob1 on August 16, 2018, 01:27:10 PM
IMO The SC judges agreed he did, but Amaral's right to free speech over ruled the right for the McCanns to a good name.

So its opinion not fact then.
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Offline Robittybob1

Re: What exactly are the repercussions of 'not being cleared' ?
« Reply #26 on: August 16, 2018, 01:34:27 PM »
Quote from: barrier on August 16, 2018, 01:31:49 PM
So its opinion not fact then.
I'm telling you what I understand they declared.  I don't agree with their findings, that is my opinion.
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Offline slartibartfast

Re: What exactly are the repercussions of 'not being cleared' ?
« Reply #27 on: August 16, 2018, 01:38:43 PM »
Quote from: Robittybob1 on August 16, 2018, 01:27:10 PM
IMO The SC judges agreed he did, but Amaral's right to free speech over ruled the right for the McCanns to a good name.

Can you provide a cite for that?
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: What exactly are the repercussions of 'not being cleared' ?
« Reply #28 on: August 16, 2018, 01:45:02 PM »
Quote from: slartibartfast on August 16, 2018, 01:38:43 PM
Can you provide a cite for that?

It says Imo... So a cite really isn't required... But if you read the SC report you will see they talk of the balance between  reputation and free speech which indicates they had concern that the McCann's reputation was being affected
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Offline slartibartfast

Re: What exactly are the repercussions of 'not being cleared' ?
« Reply #29 on: August 16, 2018, 01:50:18 PM »
Quote from: Davel on August 16, 2018, 01:45:02 PM
It says Imo... So a cite really isn't required... But if you read the SC report you will see they talk of the balance between  reputation and free speech which indicates they had concern that the McCann's reputation was being affected

That isn’t the same as the SC judges defamed the McCanns which is what Rob said.
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