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Offline misty

Re: "Start by Asking Yourself What is a Supporter and Work on from There”
« Reply #45 on: August 19, 2018, 01:11:02 PM »
Totally agree.  Misty talks about sceptics being embarrassed when publicly exposed, was the author of the dossier so exposed or publicly embarrassed yet?

As for the thread title, I would always support the parents of a missing child if I thought they deserved it.  In this case I don't.

I haven't a clue who compiled the dossier. However, I am pretty sure that Amy Tierney, as a victim of mistaken identity, was grateful BL never turned up at her place of work accusing her of all sorts.

Offline slartibartfast

Re: "Start by Asking Yourself What is a Supporter and Work on from There”
« Reply #46 on: August 19, 2018, 01:23:53 PM »
They can arrest them and hold them for questioning though can't they?

Not in the U.K. without evidence of a crime.
“Reasoning will never make a Man correct an ill Opinion, which by Reasoning he never acquired”.

Offline misty

Re: "Start by Asking Yourself What is a Supporter and Work on from There”
« Reply #47 on: August 19, 2018, 01:44:10 PM »
Same old...same old.  If you need to blame anyone, blame her murdering uncle and delinquent mother.

No forensic evidence Joana was murdered.
Here's a good read for you, Angelo - especially the "40 pages" part.

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/262584165_Making_sense_of_the_story_-_The_dialogues_between_the_police_and_forensic_laboratories_in_the_construction_of_DNA_evidence

Offline Miss Taken Identity

Re: "Start by Asking Yourself What is a Supporter and Work on from There”
« Reply #48 on: August 19, 2018, 01:45:07 PM »
I haven't a clue who compiled the dossier. However, I am pretty sure that Amy Tierney, as a victim of mistaken identity, was grateful BL never turned up at her place of work accusing her of all sorts.

So you don't think the dossier writers have a case to answer? Your insistance to black name and infer Brenda as deserving of such action is very telling.  Let us look at what the Parents  behaviour has  who it has affected.

Everyone! Their own family, the twins, A whole community,  a company (MW), Robert Murat, otherpointed at, a police coordinator, a police service, bad mouthed many witneses, people on the net who don't buy their version of accounts and .....a little three yearold girl. what terror she was subjected to we have no idea.

Let's keep it real. the parents are wholly responsible for their childrens well being and safety.
'Never underestimate the power of stupid people'... George Carlin

Offline jassi

Re: "Start by Asking Yourself What is a Supporter and Work on from There”
« Reply #49 on: August 19, 2018, 01:45:35 PM »
That's the problem with forensics - it doesn't always come up with the answers.
I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -

OG have been pushed out by the Germans who have reserved all the deck chairs for the foreseeable future

Offline misty

Re: "Start by Asking Yourself What is a Supporter and Work on from There”
« Reply #50 on: August 19, 2018, 02:13:15 PM »
So you don't think the dossier writers have a case to answer? Your insistance to black name and infer Brenda as deserving of such action is very telling.  Let us look at what the Parents  behaviour has  who it has affected.

Everyone! Their own family, the twins, A whole community,  a company (MW), Robert Murat, otherpointed at, a police coordinator, a police service, bad mouthed many witneses, people on the net who don't buy their version of accounts and .....a little three yearold girl. what terror she was subjected to we have no idea.

Let's keep it real. the parents are wholly responsible for their childrens well being and safety.

BL, Hyland, Nessling et al made their own choices when it came to how they behaved using Madeleine's case as their platform. They were/are the antithesis of support for Madeleine.

Offline Alice Purjorick

Re: "Start by Asking Yourself What is a Supporter and Work on from There”
« Reply #51 on: August 19, 2018, 02:48:52 PM »
No forensic evidence Joana was murdered.
Here's a good read for you, Angelo - especially the "40 pages" part.

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/262584165_Making_sense_of_the_story_-_The_dialogues_between_the_police_and_forensic_laboratories_in_the_construction_of_DNA_evidence

Interesting you should post that link.
That link shows how the archived files on the McCann case are refernced. A point you were calling into question a few days ago.
It also gives the true statement made by Martin Grime.
Small world innit?
"Navigating the difference between weird but normal grief and truly suspicious behaviour is the key for any detective worth his salt.". ….Sarah Bailey

Offline Sunny

Re: "Start by Asking Yourself What is a Supporter and Work on from There”
« Reply #52 on: August 19, 2018, 03:02:22 PM »
BL, Hyland, Nessling et al made their own choices when it came to how they behaved using Madeleine's case as their platform. They were/are the antithesis of support for Madeleine.

I see Brenda Leyland doesn't even get to be called by her given name only BL, also isn't Nessling one of the McCann supporters. Vee8 wasn't it?

I find it interesting so far no one appears to know who has created the dossier perhaps the creaters are now ashamed of what they did following Brenda's death.
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Offline jassi

Re: "Start by Asking Yourself What is a Supporter and Work on from There”
« Reply #53 on: August 19, 2018, 03:07:12 PM »
I see Brenda Leyland doesn't even get to be called by her given name only BL, also isn't Nessling one of the McCann supporters. Vee8 wasn't it?

I find it interesting so far no one appears to know who has created the dossier perhaps the creaters are now ashamed of what they did following Brenda's death.

I was of the opinion that the identity of the instigator was well known, who due to the unforeseen consequences of her action  has crawled back under her stone.
« Last Edit: August 19, 2018, 03:09:46 PM by jassi »
I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -

OG have been pushed out by the Germans who have reserved all the deck chairs for the foreseeable future

Offline carlymichelle

Re: "Start by Asking Yourself What is a Supporter and Work on from There”
« Reply #54 on: August 19, 2018, 03:13:43 PM »
I was of the opinion that the identity of the instigator was well known, who due to the unforeseen consequences of her action  has crawled back under her stone.

i know  who   it was she fled the internet  right after brendas death

Offline misty

Re: "Start by Asking Yourself What is a Supporter and Work on from There”
« Reply #55 on: August 19, 2018, 03:17:07 PM »
I see Brenda Leyland doesn't even get to be called by her given name only BL, also isn't Nessling one of the McCann supporters. Vee8 wasn't it?

I find it interesting so far no one appears to know who has created the dossier perhaps the creaters are now ashamed of what they did following Brenda's death.

You mistakenly thought I was being biased in my criticism of those whose behaviour has crossed the lines of moral decency. Criticism of a dossier which sought to harvest abusive comments & behaviour & intended for police eyes should not be a source of embarrassment to anyone, whoever they are IMO.

Offline slartibartfast

Re: "Start by Asking Yourself What is a Supporter and Work on from There”
« Reply #56 on: August 19, 2018, 03:21:17 PM »
You mistakenly thought I was being biased in my criticism of those whose behaviour has crossed the lines of moral decency. Criticism of a dossier which sought to harvest abusive comments & behaviour & intended for police eyes should not be a source of embarrassment to anyone, whoever they are IMO.

So why are they hiding their light under a bushel.
“Reasoning will never make a Man correct an ill Opinion, which by Reasoning he never acquired”.

Offline jassi

Re: "Start by Asking Yourself What is a Supporter and Work on from There”
« Reply #57 on: August 19, 2018, 03:22:23 PM »
You mistakenly thought I was being biased in my criticism of those whose behaviour has crossed the lines of moral decency. Criticism of a dossier which sought to harvest abusive comments & behaviour & intended for police eyes should not be a source of embarrassment to anyone, whoever they are IMO.

If that's where they'd left it - in a constabulary rubbish bin - then everything would have been fine.
Unfortunately they didn't and it wasn't.

A prime example of supporter obsession, I think.
« Last Edit: August 19, 2018, 03:26:46 PM by jassi »
I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -

OG have been pushed out by the Germans who have reserved all the deck chairs for the foreseeable future

Offline carlymichelle

Re: "Start by Asking Yourself What is a Supporter and Work on from There”
« Reply #58 on: August 19, 2018, 03:27:38 PM »
So why are they hiding their light under a bushel.

maybe  because they drove a woman to sucide?  with martin brunts  help   all  IMHO
« Last Edit: August 19, 2018, 03:34:08 PM by carlymichelle »

Offline misty

Re: "Start by Asking Yourself What is a Supporter and Work on from There”
« Reply #59 on: August 19, 2018, 03:47:25 PM »
So why are they hiding their light under a bushel.

No idea who they are or if they are hiding anywhere. However, the police response to the dossier appears to have been a smack in the face to all people who have reported online abuse & harassment - possibly because the worst scenario in most cases of police non-action under the Communications Act is a suicide.
IMO.