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Offline Sunny

Re: "Start by Asking Yourself What is a Supporter and Work on from There”
« Reply #225 on: August 20, 2018, 09:57:16 PM »
Nice to see y’all mocking and attempting to goad me, well done, typical trollish behaviour... 8@??)(

It works both ways Vertigo Swirl.   You too have goaded other posters on here so can we say you have exhibited "typical trollish behaviour" too?

By the way were you Alfie? I have seen some posts by that poster.

I don't expect you to answer but it would be nice if you did.
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Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: "Start by Asking Yourself What is a Supporter and Work on from There”
« Reply #226 on: August 20, 2018, 10:17:22 PM »
It works both ways Vertigo Swirl.   You too have goaded other posters on here so can we say you have exhibited "typical trollish behaviour" too?

By the way were you Alfie? I have seen some posts by that poster.

I don't expect you to answer but it would be nice if you did.
Alfie you say?  Hmmm...name rings a bell, a bit before my time however... ?>)()<
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Offline Sunny

Re: "Start by Asking Yourself What is a Supporter and Work on from There”
« Reply #227 on: August 20, 2018, 10:25:26 PM »
Alfie you say?  Hmmm...name rings a bell, a bit before my time however... ?>)()<

Very cool Vertigo Swirl  8**8:/:
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Offline G-Unit

Re: "Start by Asking Yourself What is a Supporter and Work on from There”
« Reply #228 on: August 20, 2018, 10:26:55 PM »
It’s a turn of phrase, are you not aware of it?
“bay for blood. disapproving. If a group of people are baying for blood, they want someone to be hurt or punished: By now the crowd was baying for blood”.

Like the dossier compilers you mean?
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Offline Alice Purjorick

Re: "Start by Asking Yourself What is a Supporter and Work on from There”
« Reply #229 on: August 20, 2018, 10:33:40 PM »
wait   VS  is alfie?  who would of thought &^^&* @)(++(*

Stalking Faithlilly the minute he walked through the door was a bit of a giveawy.
Good job he came in disguise otherwise we would never have known... *%87
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Offline Sunny

Re: "Start by Asking Yourself What is a Supporter and Work on from There”
« Reply #230 on: August 20, 2018, 10:34:28 PM »
It’s a turn of phrase, are you not aware of it?
“bay for blood. disapproving. If a group of people are baying for blood, they want someone to be hurt or punished: By now the crowd was baying for blood”.

I suppose  the bolded bit is a bit like the dossier compilers wanted for Brenda Leyland and others too it seems,  IMO.
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Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: "Start by Asking Yourself What is a Supporter and Work on from There”
« Reply #231 on: August 20, 2018, 10:36:52 PM »
Like the dossier compilers you mean?
I don’t believe the dossier compilers targeted individuals per se, nor do I think they expected or coerced Sky to doorstep any individual.  .  I genuinely believe their motivation was concern for the safety of a family they felt were targets, with their home address readily available online, so I don’t believe they were “baying for blood”, no.
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Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: "Start by Asking Yourself What is a Supporter and Work on from There”
« Reply #232 on: August 20, 2018, 10:38:00 PM »
Stalking Faithlilly the minute he walked through the door was a bit of a giveawy.
Good job he came in disguise otherwise we would never have known... *%87
Are you married to Faithlilly?  You seem very protective of her.  What a gent!
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Offline G-Unit

Re: "Start by Asking Yourself What is a Supporter and Work on from There”
« Reply #233 on: August 20, 2018, 10:48:15 PM »
I don’t believe the dossier compilers targeted individuals per se, nor do I think they expected or coerced Sky to doorstep any individual.  .  I genuinely believe their motivation was concern for the safety of a family they felt were targets, with their home address readily available online, so I don’t believe they were “baying for blood”, no.

They, or those with similar views, worked very hard to find those they disagreed with;

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After the death of a woman who targeted the McCann family with online abuse, Channel 4 News finds a website that has assembled 27 dossiers on people it claims post “McCann hate”.

They are hosted on a Wikipedia-style site called “Mccann Hate Exposed”. It was removed from the web sometime in the past week.

A dossier about Leyland’s account “Sweepyface” was hosted on the Wiki site, but it is unclear if this is the same dossier that was handed to the police or the same information that was used by Sky News.
https://www.channel4.com/news/mccann-internet-troll-hunting-site-deleted-after-death
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Offline Sunny

Re: "Start by Asking Yourself What is a Supporter and Work on from There”
« Reply #234 on: August 20, 2018, 10:48:46 PM »
I don’t believe the dossier compilers targeted individuals per se, nor do I think they expected or coerced Sky to doorstep any individual.  .  I genuinely believe their motivation was concern for the safety of a family they felt were targets, with their home address readily available online, so I don’t believe they were “baying for blood”, no.

They clearly gave Sky and I believe the Daily Mail the details of the individuals they had tweets for though, they could have expected this to happen and as I have mentioned earlier I have seen congratulatory posts on a forum, wondering who would be next, when the rolling news footage of Brenda was shown on Sky news again and again and again.

Hasn't the McCanns address been online since Madeleine disappeared so what had happened in 2014 to make the dossier compilers pass this information over to Sky and it would appear, Summers and Swan too for their book.

I understand your concerns about the safety of the remaining children but I think this was a sledgehammer to crack a nut i.e total overkill

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Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: "Start by Asking Yourself What is a Supporter and Work on from There”
« Reply #235 on: August 20, 2018, 11:00:09 PM »
They, or those with similar views, worked very hard to find those they disagreed with;

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After the death of a woman who targeted the McCann family with online abuse, Channel 4 News finds a website that has assembled 27 dossiers on people it claims post “McCann hate”.

They are hosted on a Wikipedia-style site called “Mccann Hate Exposed”. It was removed from the web sometime in the past week.

A dossier about Leyland’s account “Sweepyface” was hosted on the Wiki site, but it is unclear if this is the same dossier that was handed to the police or the same information that was used by Sky News.
https://www.channel4.com/news/mccann-internet-troll-hunting-site-deleted-after-death
My personal view about compiling dossiers on hateful trollish behaviour is that it is a complete waste of time though I can understand why some people might be concerned about it.  I think hateful tweets and forums are appalling but the sheer volume of it directed not just at the McCanns but at just about everyone in the public eye means that there is nothing anyone can realistically do about it.  It’s an unsavoury aspect of modern life and we all just have to “suck it up”. I’m fairly certain the McCanns learned this a long time ago, and it’s a shame the dossier compilers spent so much time and effort in such an (IMO) futile task, albeit with honourable intentions (also IMO). 
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Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: "Start by Asking Yourself What is a Supporter and Work on from There”
« Reply #236 on: August 20, 2018, 11:01:23 PM »
They clearly gave Sky and I believe the Daily Mail the details of the individuals they had tweets for though, they could have expected this to happen and as I have mentioned earlier I have seen congratulatory posts on a forum, wondering who would be next, when the rolling news footage of Brenda was shown on Sky news again and again and again.

Hasn't the McCanns address been online since Madeleine disappeared so what had happened in 2014 to make the dossier compilers pass this information over to Sky and it would appear, Summers and Swan too for their book.

I understand your concerns about the safety of the remaining children but I think this was a sledgehammer to crack a nut i.e total overkill
Has the McCanns address been online since Madeleine disappeared?  How would you, as a newcomer to this case, know that?
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Offline Sunny

Re: "Start by Asking Yourself What is a Supporter and Work on from There”
« Reply #237 on: August 20, 2018, 11:09:10 PM »
Has the McCanns address been online since Madeleine disappeared?  How would you, as a newcomer to this case, know that?

I have seen the address in many places and some of them go back to probably 2008 I suppose, so I was wrong saying when Madeleine disappeared. They were very old posts anyway. If you want I can find them now and show you where it is online still but probably not a good idea.

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Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: "Start by Asking Yourself What is a Supporter and Work on from There”
« Reply #238 on: August 20, 2018, 11:13:29 PM »
I have seen the address in many places and some of them go back to probably 2008 I suppose, so I was wrong saying when Madeleine disappeared. They were very old posts anyway. If you want I can find them now and show you where it is online still but probably not a good idea.
Wow, you’ve been reading posts goimg as far back as 2008?!  You must be exhausted!   Well done on your commitment to the cause though, so much research in such a short space of time.
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Offline Sunny

Re: "Start by Asking Yourself What is a Supporter and Work on from There”
« Reply #239 on: August 20, 2018, 11:18:59 PM »
Wow, you’ve been reading posts goimg as far back as 2008?!  You must be exhausted!   Well done on your commitment to the cause though, so much research in such a short space of time.

It has been well over a year Vertigo Swirl remember. I have read an awful lot on many forums both sceptic and supporter forums. I was trying to get a handle on why she would post what she did and why others would compile a dossier and hurt this poor woman so much. I have even looked at twitter and news paper articles and videos on youtube too.

I did get my eyes opened though of course.
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