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ferryman

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It is quite extraordinary that (I hope) an ex-policeman found guilty of a torture of medieval barbarity (and origin) (bastinado) can receive a suspended sentence; yet a poor woman, deemed not to have got her story completely straight while being tortured to a point of near blindness, by police officers, while tied to a chair with a bag over head, gets her sentence increased.
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stephen25000

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It is quite extraordinary that (I hope) an ex-policeman found guilty of a torture of medieval barbarity (and origin) (bastinado) can receive a suspended sentence; yet a poor woman, deemed not to have got her story completely straight while being tortured to a point of near blindness, by police officers, while tied to a chair with a bag over head, gets her sentence increased.

'found guilty of a torture of medieval barbarity '

Who was ?

ferryman

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'found guilty of a torture of medieval barbarity '

Who was ?

Almeida.

Pena suspensa para dupla da PJ condenada por tortura
Dois inspetores-chefes da PJ foram condenados, esta sexta-feira, a dois anos e seis meses de prisão, com pena suspensa, por tortura contra o funcionário da CP Virgolino Borges, disse à Lusa o advogado da vítima.
25 de Janeiro, 18h09Nº de votos (5) Comentários (7)


 
A notícia da condenação dos dois inspetores da Polícia Judiciária foi avançada pela SIC Notícias.
O coletivo de juízes da 3ªa vara criminal de Lisboa condenou pelo de tortura os inspetores-chefe José Diamantino Santos e Vitor Tavares de Almeida e ao pagamento de uma multa de 80 euros/mês pelo mesmo período, indicou à Lusa o advogado Jerónimo Martins.


Translation:

Suspended sentence for duo PJ convicted of torture
Two chief inspectors of the PJ were sentenced on Friday to two years and six months imprisonment with suspended sentence for torture against the official CP Virgolino Borges, told Lusa the victim's lawyer.
January 25, 18h09N of votes (5) Comments (7)

The news of the sentencing of two inspectors of the Judicial Police was advanced by SIC Notícias.
The collective of judges from the 3rd to the criminal court of Lisbon condemned the torture inspectors Chief Joseph Diamond Santos and Vitor Tavares de Almeida and the payment of a fine of 80 euros / month for the same period, told the Lusa attorney Jerónimo Martins.
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stephen25000

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Almeida.

Of who and where's the proof ?

and what relevance does this have to this case ?

Where the Mccanns tortured ?

Where their associates tortured ?

Was anyone in this case tortured ?


ferryman

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More on bastinado:

Bastinado

Bastinado involves beating a prisoner on the soles of his or her feet with a stick. This method of torture relies on the fact that the foot is a fragile appendage with numerous bones, tendons, joints, and muscles. It is also a place where nerve endings are close to the surface and therefore especially susceptible to pain.  Such violence applied to the foot is particularly unpleasant.

During Bastinado, a victim's legs are usually bound together and often tied to a horizontal length of wood, so the feet are exposed to the torturer. Anything from a club to a slender bamboo wand is used to inflict the punishment. The pain radiates up the legs, coursing through the body and up to the head. After the torture, the prisoner might be forced to walk around, sometimes carrying weights on his back.

The act of Bastinado, generally used to punish miscreants but also to elicit answers from torture victims, extends back through history hundreds of years. An officially sanctioned penalty, Bastinado was popular in such countries as Persia and Turkey for many centuries. It was also used in other parts of the world. The Chinese practiced their techniques on blocks of bean curd to learn to hit the surface without breaking the skin so they could learn how to produce great pain while only leaving the lightest marks. Bastinado is still sometimes used in backroom tortures.


And Almeida and his fellow cohort got only a suspended sentence?

Offline Mr Moderator

Ferryman.  You make mention of bastinado but where is it reported that PJ officers were guilty of such an offence?

Offline Chinagirl

Horrifying.... and truly appalling to think of such methods being used in the 21st century - by a police force that, we are supposed to believe, is one of the world's finest!
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stephen25000

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More on bastinado:

Bastinado

Bastinado involves beating a prisoner on the soles of his or her feet with a stick. This method of torture relies on the fact that the foot is a fragile appendage with numerous bones, tendons, joints, and muscles. It is also a place where nerve endings are close to the surface and therefore especially susceptible to pain.  Such violence applied to the foot is particularly unpleasant.

During Bastinado, a victim's legs are usually bound together and often tied to a horizontal length of wood, so the feet are exposed to the torturer. Anything from a club to a slender bamboo wand is used to inflict the punishment. The pain radiates up the legs, coursing through the body and up to the head. After the torture, the prisoner might be forced to walk around, sometimes carrying weights on his back.

The act of Bastinado, generally used to punish miscreants but also to elicit answers from torture victims, extends back through history hundreds of years. An officially sanctioned penalty, Bastinado was popular in such countries as Persia and Turkey for many centuries. It was also used in other parts of the world. The Chinese practiced their techniques on blocks of bean curd to learn to hit the surface without breaking the skin so they could learn how to produce great pain while only leaving the lightest marks. Bastinado is still sometimes used in backroom tortures.


And Almeida and his fellow cohort got only a suspended sentence?

So where is the evidence that Almeida or anyone else did this ?

Again, what relevance does this have to this case ?

ferryman

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Ferryman.  You make mention of bastinado but where is it reported that PJ officers were guilty of such an offence?

Expresso
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Two inspectors PJ convicted of torture
Lawyer shows the victim was relieved by the end of a process that has dragged on for 13 years. "From what I understand, it is the first time that such a process leads to the conviction of persons in concrete," says the Express.
Rui Gustavo and Ricardo Marques
17:44 Friday, January 25, 2013


Two chief inspectors of the PJ were sentenced today to prison terms of two and a half years, suspended upon payment of a fine in that monthly period, for having tortured a man DCCB's premises in March 2000. Another element of PJ was acquitted.

In a judgment with about 40 pages, the Lisbon Criminal Court sentenced the two chief inspectors of the Judicial Police to pay each month, each, the sum of 80 euros for a fund that will ultimately accrue to the victim, Virgolino Borges, who was assistant in the process. The decision was known in 3. ª stick, by 14h30.

Jerónimo Martins, lawyer Virgolino Borges, was relieved by the end of a process that has dragged on for 13 years. "From what I understand, it is the first time that such a process leads to the conviction of persons in concrete," he told Express.

The three inspectors - Diamond José dos Santos, Vitor Tavares de Almeida and Antonio Alves da Cunha, were part of the same brigade of the then Central Directorate for Combating Gangsterism (DCCB). In March 2000, Virgolino Borges was taken to the PJ on suspicion of theft (a process that eventually involved). On days 2 and 3, he complained, was beaten repeatedly with a board and punched in the feet by PJ inspectors.

In a first phase investigation, the prosecutor eventually dismiss the case. At that time, consisted Virgolino assistant and requested the opening statement - which culminated in the indictment of three police for the crime of torture, criminal whose frame varies between one and five years in prison.

The two defendants, Diamantino dos Santos de Almeida and Tavares were convicted co-author and should appeal the conviction.

The three inspectors Judicial, both now convicted and who was acquitted, all remain active.

Offline Jean-Pierre

FYI Stephen, Tavares was the author of the interim report that Amaral relied on so heavily in his book.

His conviction is an indication of the sort of man he is, really.       

Offline Benice

All that is visible form those supporting the Mccanns on this thread is to divert attention.

Concentrate on this case.

LOL at the supreme irony of that comment.     You wouldn't be trying to divert attention away from the fact that you have just had it confirmed that Tavares is a convicted torturer would you?

As for your second comment - can we take it that you will not be mentioning the Barry George case again?

The notion that innocence prevails over guilt – when there is no evidence to the contrary – is what separates civilization from barbarism.    Unfortunately, there are remains of barbarism among us.    Until very recently, it headed the PJ in Portimão. I hope he was the last one.
                                               Henrique Monteiro, chief editor, Expresso, Portugal

stephen25000

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LOL at the supreme irony of that comment.     You wouldn't be trying to divert attention away from the fact that you have just had it confirmed that Tavares is a convicted torturer would you?

As for your second comment - can we take it that you will not be mentioning the Barry George case again?


Who did this Tavares torture ?

Did he do it himself ?

Do you have proof ?

and of course rather more importantly, what does it have to do with what the Mccanns failed to do, i.e. take care of their children ?

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Who did this Tavares torture ?

Did he do it himself ?

Do you have proof ?

and of course rather more importantly, what does it have to do with what the Mccanns failed to do, i.e. take care of their children ?

Why are you asking such silly questions - when you have quoted the details of the 'torture' case yourself in post no. 406?

I see you have studiously ignored my query to you regarding further mention of the Barry George case, and prefer instead to wheel out your usual tired old mantra.   The last resort of most 'sceptics' to divert attention away from unpalatable facts - to which they have no answer IMO.  So predictable.









The notion that innocence prevails over guilt – when there is no evidence to the contrary – is what separates civilization from barbarism.    Unfortunately, there are remains of barbarism among us.    Until very recently, it headed the PJ in Portimão. I hope he was the last one.
                                               Henrique Monteiro, chief editor, Expresso, Portugal

stephen25000

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Why are you asking such silly questions - when you have quoted the details of the 'torture' case yourself in post no. 406?

I see you have studiously ignored my query to you regarding further mention of the Barry George case, and prefer instead to wheel out your usual tired old mantra.   The last resort of most 'sceptics' to divert attention away from unpalatable facts - to which they have no answer IMO.  So predictable.

Not silly questions, just pertinent.

To which you cannot answer.

Now prove to me the man tortured someone and then tell me what does this have to do with the Mccanns case.

The unpalatable fact you cannot bear in this case, is there is no proof of abduction, and without that you can only look in one direction..............

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Who did this Tavares torture ?

Did he do it himself ?

Do you have proof ?

and of course rather more importantly, what does it have to do with what the Mccanns failed to do, i.e. take care of their children ?

Two inspectors PJ convicted of torture
Lawyer shows the victim was relieved by the end of a process that has dragged on for 13 years. "From what I understand, it is the first time that such a process leads to the conviction of persons in concrete," says the Express.

Rui Gustavo and Ricardo Marques
17:44 Friday, January 25, 2013

Two chief inspectors of the PJ were sentenced today to prison terms of two and a half years, suspended upon payment of a fine in that monthly period, for having tortured a man DCCB's premises in March 2000. Another element of PJ was acquitted.

In a judgment with about 40 pages, the Lisbon Criminal Court sentenced the two chief inspectors of the Judicial Police to pay each month, each, the sum of 80 euros for a fund that will ultimately accrue to the victim, Virgolino Borges, who was assistant in the process. The decision was known in 3. ª stick, by 14h30.

Jerónimo Martins, lawyer Virgolino Borges, was relieved by the end of a process that has dragged on for 13 years. "From what I understand, it is the first time that such a process leads to the conviction of persons in concrete," he told Express.

The three inspectors - Diamond José dos Santos, Vitor Tavares de Almeida and Antonio Alves da Cunha, were part of the same brigade of the then Central Directorate for Combating Gangsterism (DCCB). In March 2000, Virgolino Borges was taken to the PJ on suspicion of theft (a process that eventually involved). On days 2 and 3, he complained, was beaten repeatedly with a board and punched in the feet by PJ inspectors.

In a first phase investigation, the prosecutor eventually dismiss the case. At that time, consisted Virgolino assistant and requested the opening statement - which culminated in the indictment of three police for the crime of torture, criminal whose frame varies between one and five years in prison.

The two defendants, Diamantino dos Santos de Almeida and Tavares were convicted co-author and should appeal the conviction.

The three inspectors Judicial, both now convicted and who was acquitted, all remain active.

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