Cadaver dogs are unreliable - Eugene Zapata

[Mr Gray]

Can you state there was no cadaver?  How do you place the odds of there being the past presence of a cadaver to their being no past presence of a cadaver?

I've never stated there was no cadaver.... But I have stated there is no confirmed cadaver...... Given that a body takes a couple of hours to produce cadaver then realistically there can only have been a cadaver if the McCann's were involved
As they obviously  are not.... I don't think there was a cadaver in 5 a

[Robittybob1]

I've never stated there was no cadaver.... But I have stated there is no confirmed cadaver...... Given that a body takes a couple of hours to produce cadaver then realistically there can only have been a cadaver if the McCann's were involved
As they obviously  are not.... I don't think there was a cadaver in 5 a

That is what I thought too to begin with but then I noticed the bag in the PJ photos at night, but not there in the daytime photos.  If there were items in the bag the bag had been there long enough for cadaver odour to develop overnight.

[Mr Gray]

That is what I thought too to begin with but then I noticed the bag in the PJ photos at night, but not there in the daytime photos.  If there were items in the bag the bag had been there long enough for cadaver odour to develop overnight.

Are you suggesting Maddie's body was in 5a overnight

[Robittybob1]

Are you suggesting Maddie's body was in 5a overnight

We can't name a cadaver or body parts, it is a dog alert only.  I believe Madeleine is alive so I can't talk of "Maddie's body".

How can one have cadaver alerts if Madeleine is alive.  We have a bag that is there after 1:00 AM but not there after 9:00 AM (times are an estimate)
IMO whoever removed the bag removed the cadaver.
That is why it is important to know who had access to the apartment after the PJ left.  Did the McCanns hand over their key to the PJ?

[Brietta]

We can't name a cadaver or body parts, it is a dog alert only.  I believe Madeleine is alive so I can't talk of "Maddie's body".

How can one have cadaver alerts if Madeleine is alive.  We have a bag that is there after 1:00 AM but not there after 9:00 AM (times are an estimate)
IMO whoever removed the bag removed the cadaver.

What bag?

[Robittybob1]

What bag?

The one in the wardrobe.

[Robittybob1]

We can't name a cadaver or body parts, it is a dog alert only.  I believe Madeleine is alive so I can't talk of "Maddie's body".

How can one have cadaver alerts if Madeleine is alive.  We have a bag that is there after 1:00 AM but not there after 9:00 AM (times are an estimate)
IMO whoever removed the bag removed the cadaver.
That is why it is important to know who had access to the apartment after the PJ left.  Did the McCanns hand over their key to the PJ?

Whose key did the PJ use to lock the apartment when they left around 4:00 AM?

[Brietta]

The one in the wardrobe.

A mythical blue tennis bag perhaps?

[Robittybob1]

A mythical blue tennis bag perhaps?

All I can tell is that there is a bag on the 3rd shelf in the first photo (night time) but it doesn't seem to be there next day time.  Was it moved?  Who moved it?

[Alice Purjorick]

Called into question by whom.... The dog handlers who were caught out


A very well run scientific  study... The only criticism  coming from those who were caught out by it.... The dog handlers

This group:
SWGDOG  is  a  recognized group of 55 subject matter experts from local, state, federal, and international  agencies including scientists, law enforcement, and  practitioners.

Robbitybob1 and others have linked the report earlier.

[Mr Gray]

This group:
SWGDOG  is  a  recognized group of 55 subject matter experts from local, state, federal, and international  agencies including scientists, law enforcement, and  practitioners.

Robbitybob1 and others have linked the report earlier.

A group of dog handlers. .....do they have any scientific studies on the topic....is there a study which contradicts the one quoted here which caughtbout the dog handlers

[Brietta]

All I can tell is that there is a bag on the 3rd shelf in the first photo (night time) but it doesn't seem to be there next day time.  Was it moved?  Who moved it?

What is the evidence for that?

[Robittybob1]

This group:
SWGDOG  is  a  recognized group of 55 subject matter experts from local, state, federal, and international  agencies including scientists, law enforcement, and  practitioners.

Robbitybob1 and others have linked the report earlier.

They took notice of the study.

[Mr Gray]

They took notice of the study.

Do they have any evidence which contradicts the study

[G-Unit]

A group of dog handlers. .....do they have any scientific studies on the topic....is there a study which contradicts the one q
uoted here which caughtbout the dog handlers

Strangely enough, there was a Portuguese study;

Handler Beliefs Do Not Affect Police Dog Detection Outcomes
https://rogerabrantes.wordpress.com/2012/05/22/handler-beliefs-do-not-affect-police-dog-detection-outcomes/