One question I have been trying to find the answer too is:
How long does it take to properly thaw a body??
I'm sure you can't do it quickly, I've have tried to find this out without much success... I did find a book someone was writing and they had , had advice about the length of time from a professional, but I could hardly use that info...
She was found on the 25th Dec and the results of the post Mortem were on the 28th Dec... Is 3 days long enough for a body that has been outside for 8 days frozen solid to thaw suficiantly as to do a post mortem?? (no even 3 full days )..
I wonder... We have Andrew Mott and we have Martin Faithfull Officers who's qualifications as forensic Officers are not fore coming.. both testifying that they had to stop Joanna Yeates body from thawing... ?
Is that the reason they both make this statement... she could have been thawing... but wouldn't that lend to her being there for far less time....
Dr Delaney doesn't get to see her till 6:00pm on the 25th December 2010....
12:14PM GMT 28 Dec 2010
Detective Chief Inspector Phil Jones of Avon and Somerset Police revealed the results of a post mortem examination as he declared that her death was now officially being treated as a murder investigation.
He said Joanna, who disappeared on Friday, December 17, had died as a result of compression of the neck.
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This is the earliest report I have found so far in regards to the conclusion of strangulation...
6:00pm 25th December 2010 to:.. 12:07 28th December 2010 = 66 hours.. (if this is PM)
Is 66 hours long enough for a body to thaw out thoroughly?? The whole body would have to be at the same temperature and thawed out so that the post mortem could even start..
I'm changing Time Frame to 54 hours max after DCI Phil Jones said it was the night before that the Autopsy was completed..And for someone who has been outside for so long it doesn't seem long enough for the body to thaw.... I believe it would have to be kept at a steady temperature so tissue doesn't start to deteriorate at a different rate to the rest ....
Would the core of the body be fully defrosted ?? I don't know .... And another problem which I forget when visulizing an autopsy is that the body was in the foetal position... So would that make it take even longer to thaw???
Foetal Position:
One Arm across her body:
One Arm around her head :
Within this 66 hour time frame... not only does he have to thaw the body.. but he needs to un-pose it... remove the clothing, wash the body and then start the autopsy...
I am no medical expert but I don't believe it's long enough... so that would lean to her not being as frozen as they say... which in turn means that she was NOT on Longwood Lane for 8 days , which I never believed she was ...
Does anyone know how many days it would take to thaw out a body in the foetal position that is frozen solid being outside for 8 day in terrible temperatures??
And at what temperature do you start the thawing process so that it defrosts at an even temerature??
( I've added attachment incase the article changes or goes walkabout.. It shows the date and time ..)
BYMIRROR.CO.UK
12:07, 28 DEC 2010UPDATED09:47, 27 JAN 2012
This doesn't say AM or PM... I suppose it's PM.... But??
Edit:.... Does the post Mortem examination time include toxicology tests??
These were sent to Scotland... So how can you have the FULL results of the post Mortem if it doesn't include the Toxicology Results...
They would have had to be sent to Scotland ASAP.... Did they get the Results immediately???
Double Edit:.... On The 28th December at 12:14pm DCI Phil Jones says that the pathologist completed his examination last night...
Begs questions... we have now to take 12 hours off... so we only have 54 hours at the very most.... we do not know what time he completed his examination of a FROZEN BODY...
I'll pop a link in to my next post on early reports about the case:
http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=8056.msg401461#msg401461http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/joanna-yeates-was-strangled-post-mortem-271813http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/8228069/Murder-investigation-launched-as-post-mortem-reveals-Joanna-Yeates-was-strangled.html