Amaral and the dogs

[Mr Gray]

If the dogs had no importance, why the contained reference to them and Grime by mccann supporters ? &%+((£

because of the continued claims on here and elsewhere that the alerts have value..they have none

[ferryman]

We've long known about Jean-Paul Gordon's shaving cut.

But some time ago, a fascinating link was produced on this board (I think!) by Anna of all the people (besides Mr Gordon) who did, or might have, bled in apartment 5a before May 3rd, making a still greater mockery of Amaral's insistence that Eddie 'smelt death' all over the place ...

[G-Unit]

If you wish to post on this thread perhaps you could address the topic of the thread

The clues are 'dog' and 'Grime'

[Brietta]

If the dogs had no importance, why the contained reference to them and Grime by mccann supporters ? &%+((£

Speaking for myself ... my introduction to Mr Amaral (whose name in my innocence I spelt with an o ... Lol imagine the stushie!) and the dogs who do not lie was as a result of being directed to the 'dog' videos by sceptics.

To say I was astounded by them is an understatement ... compounded only by having my intelligence insulted by the rather obvious machinations of Lizzie Taylor ... next question, please.

[stephen25000]

Speaking for myself ... my introduction to Mr Amaral (whose name in my innocence I spelt with an o ... Lol imagine the stushie!) and the dogs who do not lie was as a result of being directed to the 'dog' videos by sceptics.

To say I was astounded by them is an understatement ... compounded only by having my intelligence insulted by the rather obvious machinations of Lizzie Taylor ... next question, please.

That's not answering the question.

Why, if the dogs and Grime are irrelevant, why carry on commenting on it ?

The same question can be asked of gerry mccann when he tried to bring it up in the Portuguese Court.

[Mr Gray]

That's not answering the question.

Why, if the dogs and Grime are irrelevant, why carry on commenting on it ?

The same question can be asked of gerry mccann when he tried to bring it up in the Portuguese Court.

because people still believe the lies told by amaral........that is answering the question

[Eleanor]

The Dogs and Amaral.  If you please.

[Alfred R Jones]

That's not answering the question.

Why, if the dogs and Grime are irrelevant, why carry on commenting on it ?

The same question can be asked of gerry mccann when he tried to bring it up in the Portuguese Court.

The dog alerts were VERY relevant in helping to cement the opinions of many ill-informed individuals that the McCanns dunnit.  Some of these same people still continue (in the face of all the facts) to insist that the dog alerts are proof that Madeleine is dead and that her parents are involved in her disappearance.  As long as these individuals continue to make these unevidenced claims, there will be others pointing out why they are wrong.  Simples innit.

[Mr Gray]

The clues are 'dog' and 'Grime'

perhaps you would like to post about your dog....the tread is about amaral's interpretation of the dog's alerts. I can see why you want to avoid the topic at all costs and continually try to deflect the tread to other issues

[Anna]

Before anyone accuses me of criticising MG or the dogs….Wrong.
 
These dogs do a wonderful job of locating cadavers or body fluids and they can’t do that job without the assistance of expert trainers/handlers.

Poor little Eddie may have already been sick when he was in Jersey…….We don’t know.

However, evidence of the Jersey  search, (False alert) surely proves that these specialised  dogs don’t  always get it right.http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1217863/Bungled-Jersey-child-abuse-probe-branded-20million-shambles.html


In my opinion. GA had already come to the conclusion, that the parents were involved and in his desperation to get a conviction, decided that these dogs were infallible in their detection capabilities. I doubt that it would have  been the first time that police, changed the facts to fit the Theory.

We cant say with certainty, that Eddie did not detect residual scent ,or indeed that he did , at this time.
MG has said that it is not certain without corroboration, so why would GA, think otherwise?
 
We still do not know what happened on that fateful night and there is still a possibility that, Eddie did detect, residual Cadaver scent……If that is the case from who and where ? Back to square one !

[stephen25000]

The dog alerts were VERY relevant in helping to cement the opinions of many ill-informed individuals that the McCanns dunnit.  Some of these same people still continue (in the face of all the facts) to insist that the dog alerts are proof that Madeleine is dead and that her parents are involved in her disappearance.  As long as these individuals continue to make these unevidenced claims, there will be others pointing out why they are wrong.  Simples innit.

it is also simples that the dogs either did or did not alert to a body.

Innit just.

Meanwhile the crime is unknown.

[Mr Gray]

it is also simples that the dogs either did or did not alert to a body.

Innit just.

Meanwhile the crime is unknown.

That's right...so you agree amaral was wrong to claim that the alerts proved Maddie died in the apartment..


so if Grime was called to testify in court he could confirm that the dog's may or may not have alerted to a body...fat lot of use that testimony would be

[stephen25000]

That's right...so you agree amaral was wrong to claim that the alerts proved Maddie died in the apartment..


so if Grime was called to testify in court he could confirm that the dog's may or may not have alerted to a body...fat lot of use that testimony would be

We know the forensic results were inconclusive, whether Amaral was told the wrong information or he made his own conclusions.

2 possibilities remain, even Redwood said she may not have left the apartment  alive.

Meanwhile based on sheer probability, do you think Madeleine is alive ( with a paedophile or a family) or is she unfortunately dead ?

I see the Aussies meanwhile are not too pleased with the shenanigans in the UK press.

[G-Unit]

perhaps you would like to post about your dog....the tread is about amaral's interpretation of the dog's alerts. I can see why you want to avoid the topic at all costs and continually try to deflect the tread to other issues

I was answering the rather foolish allegation that Eddie alerted to bacon sandwiches. Amaral's 'mistakes' were minor compared to that. 

[ferryman]

I was answering the rather foolish allegation that Eddie alerted to bacon sandwiches. Amaral's 'mistakes' were minor compared to that. 

Maybe not a bacon sandwich (cured meat).

But certainly a pork joint ...