Amaral and the dogs

[stephen25000]

Very revealing that you need to resort to insults in order to make your case.

The dogs have no more evidential value than any other form of search technique.  It is only the results of forensic analysis that has any evidential value whatever.  I know this is somewhat inconvenient to your argument, but it is the precise legal position.   

The insults are from davel as usual, not me.

Try to be precise on that, and the tactics on display are so well known.

I'm fully aware of the inconclusive forensics jp.

However, as this thread continues to demonstrate, and for very obvious reasons, it continues to be one of the main focuses of attention of mccanns supporters and of course, the mccanns themselves.

[Mr Gray]

The insults are from davel as usual, not me.

Try to be precise on that, and the tactics on display are so well known.

I'm fully aware of the inconclusive forensics jp.

However, as this thread continues to demonstrate, and for very obvious reasons, it continues to be one of the main focuses of attention of mccanns supporters and of course, the mccanns themselves.

At least you have given up trying to claim the alerts are any type of evidence.....

[Eleanor]

I am watching this.  Any post containing insults will be deleted.

[stephen25000]

At least you have given up trying to claim the alerts are any type of evidence.....

They remain circumstantial evidence.

[Jean-Pierre]

The insults are from davel as usual, not me.

Try to be precise on that, and the tactics on display are so well known.

I'm fully aware of the inconclusive forensics jp.

However, as this thread continues to demonstrate, and for very obvious reasons, it continues to be one of the main focuses of attention of mccanns supporters and of course, the mccanns themselves.

Hardly.  Let's face it, it's about the only thing "McCann septics" have to justify their continuing hate campaign against this unfortunate family. 

 

[stephen25000]

Hardly.  Let's face it, it's about the only thing "McCann septics" have to justify their continuing hate campaign against this unfortunate family.

Oh dear.

The crime has yet to be ascertained jp.

'hate campaign' ???

That is observable from certain parties on both sides.

A simple inspection of the extreme forums on both sides will amply demonstrate that, won't it jp ?

 

[pegasus]

A message for members  of this Forum who do not believe that cadaver dogs have been tested on recently dead individuals

http://www.pawsoflife.org/Library/HRD/Oesterhelweg%201998.pdf

'' Both men (A and B)
had publicly collapsed and died despite comprehensive resuscitative efforts. At
the start of our investigation, the postmortem interval for both men (A and B)
was measured at 110 and 120 min, respectively''

Thanks. Interesting study. PMIs of 110 mins and 120 mins. But isn't the maximum possible PMI in the theory in VdM film less than half that time? 45 mins?

[Jean-Pierre]

Oh dear.

The crime has yet to be ascertained jp.

'hate campaign' ???

That is observable from certain parties on both sides.

A simple inspection of the extreme forums on both sides will amply demonstrate that, won't it jp ?

If you wish to attach your argument to the activities of a bunch of nutters on both sides then that is your perogative. 

But I fail to see what it has to do with this forum or the current debate. 

[stephen25000]

Thanks. Interesting study. PMIs of 110 mins and 120 mins. But isn't the maximum possible PMI in the theory in VdM film less than half that time? 45 mins?

Quite possible Pegasus, but that would depend on several variables.

[pegasus]

Quite possible Pegasus, but that would depend on several variables.

The theory in the film allows only about 45 mins max.
But is there any evidence anywhere of a dog alerting to such a short interval?

[stephen25000]

The theory in the film allows only about 45 mins max.
But is there any evidence anywhere of a dog alerting to such a short interval?

I'll have a look later today.

[pegasus]

I'll have a look later today.

Shortest I found was 70 mins and none of the dogs alerted http://www.csst.org/cadaver_scent.html
Yet the theory in that film seems to allow only about 45 mins (chat to just after alarm).

[Anna]

@Anna This image you posted is interesting. Did you only brighten it, and nothing else?

I believe that was all I done, Pegusas . I may have adjusted the contrast. Do you want me to crop the original and post it? I just wanted to see what was there more clearly.

[pegasus]

I believe that was all I done, Pegusas . I may have adjusted the contrast. Do you want me to crop the original and post it? I just wanted to see what was there more clearly.

Thanks. no need to upload original. Your brightening made some things clearer like check. But now I see on original too.

[stephen25000]

Not just because?

Ian Horrocks made reference to the irrelevant behaviour of the dogs ....

Ian Horrocks.

Paid by the Sun.

As to his track record...