Amaral and the dogs

[mercury]

Grime is talking about blood. Keela only reacts to the physical presence of it. Then, he states that Eddie may react to a scent source (still talking about blood).

Was this discussed in an informal briefing or not? There's no way of knowing.

In order for the dog to locate the source the blood must have 'dried' in situ. Any 'wetting' once dried will not affect the dog's abilities.

Blood that is subjected to dilution by precipitation or other substantial water source prior to drying will soak into the ground or other absorbent material. This may dilute the scent to an unacceptable leve1 for accurate location.

It is possible however that the EVRD will locate the scent source as it would for 'dead body' scent.

There is nothing there that suggests a residual scent.

[stephen25000]

Read Grime's statement

Grime isn't a forensic scientist.

He was a dog handler.

The dogs alerted.

[Mr Gray]

Grime isn't a forensic scientist.

He was a dog handler.

The dogs alerted.

And what do the alerts signify according to Grime

[stephen25000]

And what do the alerts signify according to Grime

You tell me dave 

[Mr Gray]

You tell me dave 

They are suggestive of cadaver odour..   Just suggestive

[stephen25000]

They are suggestive of cadaver odour..   Just suggestive

Now remind exactly of what the dogs were trained to do.

[ferryman]

Keela didn't detect blood on the clothes Eddie alerted to.

Eddie didn't alert to any clothes.  He picked stuff up in his mouth (an untrained and deleterious act) and barked (though obviously not at the same time) ...

[mercury]

Eddie didn't alert to any clothes.  He picked stuff up in his mouth (an untrained and deleterious act) and barked (though obviously not at the same time) ...

Eddie did bark when screening the clothes, he only barks when he has found the scent he is trained to find. Why are you trying  to rewrite history?

[Mr Gray]

Now remind exactly of what the dogs were trained to do.

Eddie is an EVRD dog trained to find human remains

[Mr Gray]

Eddie did bark when screening the clothes, he only barks when he has found the scent he is trained to find. Why are you trying  to rewrite history?

So you claim the alerts confirm the presence of cadaver odour

[mercury]

Eddie is an EVRD dog trained to find human remains

and the remnant scent of.....an important piece of info you decided to exclude

[pegasus]

Eddie is an EVRD dog trained to find human remains

...and places where they have previously been

[mercury]

So you claim the alerts confirm the presence of cadaver odour

I claimed Eddie alerted to the clothes, a fact which Ferryman is denying for some inexplicable reason...do you have any idea why Ferryman says Eddie did NOT alert? when he obviously did?

 

[Mr Gray]

and the remnant scent of.....an important piece of info you decided to exclude

But the existence of remnant scent cannot be confirmed without forensic evidence so no one knows how reliable the alerts are.....

[Mr Gray]

I claimed Eddie alerted to the clothes, a fact which Ferryman is denying for some inexplicable reason...do you have any idea why Ferryman says Eddie did NOT alert? when he obviously did?

 

You claimed grime confirmed the alerts to cadaver odour...try and stick to the truth