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Offline mercury

Re: Amaral and the dogs
« Reply #2535 on: August 14, 2015, 09:21:43 PM »
But the existence of remnant scent cannot be confirmed without forensic evidence so no one knows how reliable the alerts are.....

How many tmes do I need to say there is no such thng as forensic evidence for remnant scent


Offline mercury

Re: Amaral and the dogs
« Reply #2536 on: August 14, 2015, 09:23:31 PM »
You claimed grime confirmed the alerts to cadaver odour...try and stick to the truth

I was responding to Ferryman who said Eddie did not alert to any clothes, try  sticking to the facts, if possible

Offline slartibartfast

Re: Amaral and the dogs
« Reply #2537 on: August 14, 2015, 09:24:00 PM »
But the existence of remnant scent cannot be confirmed without forensic evidence so no one knows how reliable the alerts are.....

So, if a dog alerts and a body is found it is alerting to the scent of a dead body, yet if a body is not present then in the world of davel it is alerting to something else.....talk about clutching at straws.
“Reasoning will never make a Man correct an ill Opinion, which by Reasoning he never acquired”.

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Amaral and the dogs
« Reply #2538 on: August 14, 2015, 09:25:35 PM »
How many tmes do I need to say there is no such thng as forensic evidence for remnant scent

There is possible forensic evidence for the alerts... Without forensic evidence the alerts have no evidential reliability,
Grime was unable to confirm the alerts were to residual scent...fact

Offline mercury

Re: Amaral and the dogs
« Reply #2539 on: August 14, 2015, 09:27:29 PM »
There is possible forensic evidence for the alerts... Without forensic evidence the alerts have no evidential reliability,
Grime was unable to confirm the alerts were to residual scent...fact

No, there is no forensic evidence for remnant scent, if you thnk there is, do detail it

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Amaral and the dogs
« Reply #2540 on: August 14, 2015, 09:29:05 PM »
So, if a dog alerts and a body is found it is alerting to the scent of a dead body, yet if a body is not present then in the world of davel it is alerting to something else.....talk about clutching at straws.

Try sticking to the facts
If a dog alerts and a body is found.... The alert is confirmed
If no body is found the alert is not confirmed

Where is the fault in the logic

stephen25000

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Re: Amaral and the dogs
« Reply #2541 on: August 14, 2015, 09:29:18 PM »
You claimed grime confirmed the alerts to cadaver odour...try and stick to the truth

Grime neither confirmed or dismissed it.

It wasn't his job to either.

It is simply a case of probability.

The dogs alerted.




Offline pegasus

Re: Amaral and the dogs
« Reply #2542 on: August 14, 2015, 09:30:19 PM »
For 8 years peeps expert and amateur have completely missed the elementary solution to the PMI issue IMO.

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Amaral and the dogs
« Reply #2543 on: August 14, 2015, 09:30:40 PM »
No, there is no forensic evidence for remnant scent, if you thnk there is, do detail it

There is no forensic evidence for residual scent therefore it cannot be confirmed and is therefore evidence of nothing

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Amaral and the dogs
« Reply #2544 on: August 14, 2015, 09:31:47 PM »
Grime neither confirmed or dismissed it.

It wasn't his job to either.

It is simply a case of probability.

The dogs alerted.

Thank you
Grime did not confirm the alerts

stephen25000

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Re: Amaral and the dogs
« Reply #2545 on: August 14, 2015, 09:32:49 PM »
Try sticking to the facts
If a dog alerts and a body is found.... The alert is confirmed
If no body is found the alert is not confirmed

Where is the fault in the logic

Very simple.

Bodies aren't always found.

However, people can still be found guilty in those circumstances.

stephen25000

  • Guest
Re: Amaral and the dogs
« Reply #2546 on: August 14, 2015, 09:34:26 PM »
Thank you
Grime did not confirm the alerts

Did he dismiss them.

Again, just to remind you, it wasn't Grime's job to say yes or no.

That was the job of the forensic scientists involved.

Offline mercury

Re: Amaral and the dogs
« Reply #2547 on: August 14, 2015, 09:36:38 PM »
So, if a dog alerts and a body is found it is alerting to the scent of a dead body, yet if a body is not present then in the world of davel it is alerting to something else.....talk about clutching at straws.

and the world of many others

pizza, nappies, plasters or socks with blood (potentially planted but disappeared straight before the dogs went in) bad breath, sweat!!, period blood, teegh, toenails, abortions, semen just lieing there, and other such nonsense

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Amaral and the dogs
« Reply #2548 on: August 14, 2015, 09:37:35 PM »
Very simple.

Bodies aren't always found.

However, people can still be found guilty in those circumstances.

based on the evidence..not the alerts

Offline mercury

Re: Amaral and the dogs
« Reply #2549 on: August 14, 2015, 09:38:14 PM »
There is no forensic evidence for residual scent therefore it cannot be confirmed and is therefore evidence of nothing

LOL, now that is real funny