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stephen25000

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Re: Amaral and the dogs
« Reply #3075 on: August 19, 2015, 09:16:38 PM »
If we say 96% of children who are harmed are harmed by their parents...then what is the possibility that the McCanns harmed Maddie...you have claimed some expertise in statistics...now is your chance to shine

So where is the 96% from dave ?

As you know, I never said the mccanns harmed Madeleine.

Neglected her and the other two children , YES.

Probability of her being alive with a paedophile, ZERO.

With a family unaware of her identity, ZERO.

ferryman

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Re: Amaral and the dogs
« Reply #3076 on: August 19, 2015, 09:17:06 PM »
My question was about statistics given by MH where you said you didnt believe MH told Amaral any such thing, nothng to do at this juncture with life/death/disposal/location

Amaral clearly lied that Harrison said Madeleine was definitely dead.

What other lies did he tell.

And why should anyone suppose Harrison would bandy about statistics so irresponsibly?

stephen25000

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Re: Amaral and the dogs
« Reply #3077 on: August 19, 2015, 09:18:50 PM »
Amaral clearly lied that Harrison said Madeleine was definitely dead.

What other lies did he tell.

And why should anyone suppose Harrison would bandy about statistics so irresponsibly?

So where is she ferryman after all this time, and no trace of her ?

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Amaral and the dogs
« Reply #3078 on: August 19, 2015, 09:19:05 PM »
So where is the 96% from dave ?

As you know, I never said the mccanns harmed Madeleine.

Neglected her and the other two children , YES.

Probability of her being alive with a paedophile, ZERO.

With a family unaware of her identity, ZERO.

so the statistics that amaral used were totally irrelevant...amaral mis applied the statistics..case proved

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Amaral and the dogs
« Reply #3079 on: August 19, 2015, 09:20:13 PM »
So where is she ferryman after all this time, and no trace of her ?

she may be alive..she may be dead

stephen25000

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Re: Amaral and the dogs
« Reply #3080 on: August 19, 2015, 09:20:22 PM »
so the statistics that amaral used were totally irrelevant...amaral mis applied the statistics..case proved

You haven't proved anything dave.

So where is Madeleine dave ?

stephen25000

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Re: Amaral and the dogs
« Reply #3081 on: August 19, 2015, 09:21:13 PM »
she may be alive..she may be dead

If you say she is alive, then state any logical possibilities.

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Amaral and the dogs
« Reply #3082 on: August 19, 2015, 09:22:10 PM »
AMAZING STATISTICS

Great Britain has at its disposal the world's biggest data bank on homicide of children under five years old. Since 1960, the count is 1528. Harrison is well acquainted with its contents. He often draws information from there which helps him to resolve similar cases. Valuable information can be found there on on various criminal modus operandi, places where bodies are hidden, techniques used to get rid of a body. He relates that on one occasion, thanks to the data, he was able to deduce the maximum distance a body might be found in relation to where the crime had been committed.

The figures quoted in the report he hands over give us the shivers. The crimes, including those of a sexual nature, are committed by the parents in 84% of cases; 96% are perpetrated by friends and relatives. In only 4% of them is the murderer or abductor a total stranger to the victim. In this roundabout way, Mark Harrison points out that the guilty party may be a person close to Madeleine, and even her own parents. From now on, we have to explore this track, especially as the others have proved fruitless.

Harrison also suggests that we use the skills of two totally remarkable dogs: the first an EVRD (Enhanced Victim Recovery Dog), achieves outstanding performance in the detection of human cadaver odour; the second, a CSI dog (Crime Scene Investigation) is capable of smelling the tiniest trace of blood, knowing how to recognise its human origin. To convince us of their capability and the extraordinary work carried out by these very special detectives in the course of over 200 investigations, he screens a video for us, showing their training and their intervention on the ground.

He suggests that we start the operations with the inspection of apartment 5A, then those occupied by the McCanns' friends. Robert Murat's house will also be subjected to thorough examination. In addition, all the vehicles used by all of them will be sniffed by the dogs.

Meanwhile, we were supposed to receive American electronic equipment that detects human bodies thanks to the odour that emanates from them (Scent Transfer Unit 100). But the equipment, blocked by customs, arrived late. We didn't need to use it, having obtained very concrete results, thanks to the dogs. (TOTL)

but no one is suggesting Maddie is the victim of a homicide by her parents...so the statistics are irrelavent

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Amaral and the dogs
« Reply #3083 on: August 19, 2015, 09:22:47 PM »
You haven't proved anything dave.

So where is Madeleine dave ?

I've proved amaral misapplied statistics

Offline pathfinder73

Re: Amaral and the dogs
« Reply #3084 on: August 19, 2015, 09:23:01 PM »
Amaral clearly lied that Harrison said Madeleine was definitely dead.

What other lies did he tell.

And why should anyone suppose Harrison would bandy about statistics so irresponsibly?

Amaral didn't say Harrison said the child was dead but it has to be investigated due to statistics.

"Mark Harrison points out that the guilty party may be a person close to Madeleine." (GA)
Smithman carrying a child in his arms checked his watch after passing the Smith family and the time was 10:03. Both are still unidentified 10 years later.

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Amaral and the dogs
« Reply #3085 on: August 19, 2015, 09:23:24 PM »
If you say she is alive, then state any logical possibilities.

look at previous cases einstein

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Amaral and the dogs
« Reply #3086 on: August 19, 2015, 09:24:14 PM »
Amaral didn't say Harrison said the child was dead but it has to be investigated due to statistics.

"Mark Harrison points out that the guilty party may be a person close to Madeleine." (GA)

you are quoting a man who has a criminal conviction for lying

Offline pathfinder73

Re: Amaral and the dogs
« Reply #3087 on: August 19, 2015, 09:24:56 PM »
you are quoting a man who has a criminal conviction for lying

And why shouldn't it be investigated?
Smithman carrying a child in his arms checked his watch after passing the Smith family and the time was 10:03. Both are still unidentified 10 years later.

Offline mercury

Re: Amaral and the dogs
« Reply #3088 on: August 19, 2015, 09:25:07 PM »
Amaral clearly lied that Harrison said Madeleine was definitely dead.

What other lies did he tell.

And why should anyone suppose Harrison would bandy about statistics so irresponsibly?

How was it irresponsible? Or maybe you think Amaral plucked the percentages out of his head.Without being privy to conversations I don't  think you or anyone else is in a position to call "liar"

Why didn't the Mccanns call Mark Harrison to testify in their trial? Maybe that could have cleared all this up ?


Offline Mr Gray

Re: Amaral and the dogs
« Reply #3089 on: August 19, 2015, 09:25:29 PM »
If you say she is alive, then state any logical possibilities.

try and read the post...I have never said Maddie is still alive...you continually make the same mistake