Amaral and the dogs

[pegasus]

If you are apart from the clothing they want to test, why would they want your clothing?

Because clothing that doesn't even belong to me (flatmates clothing for example) and that was not even being worn by anyone on the night I disappeared (for example clothing just laying around in the flat that night) can maybe provide further intelligence.

[Brietta]

Because clothing that doesn't even belong to me (flatmates clothing for example) and that was not even being worn by anyone on the night I disappeared (for example clothing just laying around in the flat that night) can maybe provide further intelligence.

Without the potential for imparting information that might have been gleaned from Madeleine's bedding, her soft toy and blanket had they been immediately isolated and professionally packed to be checked for traces in a forensic laboratory.

Checking clothing many months after the event was an irrelevance at best. 

[pegasus]

Without the potential for imparting information that might have been gleaned from Madeleine's bedding, her soft toy and blanket had they been immediately isolated and professionally packed to be checked for traces in a forensic laboratory.

Checking clothing many months after the event was an irrelevance at best.

But there are other cases where police have gone to a place which the missing person had never lived in, and which on the date of disappearance had no connection to the case (because it was moved to months later), and yet police obtain information there to help solve what happened to the missing person.

[Alice Purjorick]

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depends how intelligent you are. Are you suggesting we should never question proffesionals...that is clearly wrong...

professionals get things wrong. Ashya Kings father used google to decide on his son's lifesaving traetment and used the knowledge gained to overule the professionals

So you keep saying.
But as is typical you have failed to address the specific issue as I put it in my post.
Do you think after 60 minutes rough guide you would be in a position to competently decide a section of a structure was too small?. That was the issue I raised NOT Ashya Kings father Googling how many treatments there were.

[Mr Gray]

So you keep saying.
But as is typical you have failed to address the specific issue as I put it in my post.
Do you think after 60 minutes rough guide you would be in a position to competently decide a section of a structure was too small?. That was the issue I raised NOT Ashya Kings father Googling how many treatments there were.

Ashya King's father was the specific issue I raised in my post and you have not addressed that. In what way is your specific issue relevant to the thread ..it isn't...what is relevant is the principle of questioning professionals. If you want specific issues re the construction industry answered might I suggest you start a new board...never mind a new thread as this one concerns the McCann case

[sadie]

So you keep saying.
But as is typical you have failed to address the specific issue as I put it in my post.
Do you think after 60 minutes rough guide you would be in a position to competently decide a section of a structure was too small?. That was the issue I raised NOT Ashya Kings father Googling how many treatments there were.

Of course you should be able to question

I have just been to a dermatology specialist with three skin problems ... and she two out of three wrong

[Alice Purjorick]

Ashya King's father was the specific issue I raised in my post and you have not addressed that. In what way is your specific issue relevant to the thread ..it isn't...what is relevant is the principle of questioning professionals. If you want specific issues re the construction industry answered might I suggest you start a new board...never mind a new thread as this one concerns the McCann case

You answered a post I addressed to Brietta. You introduced Ashya King who seems to have little to do with the McCann case.
You seem to have copped out as per usual.
What you and Sadie seem to have done with your examples is to indicate the medical profession aren't much cop if one can keep catching them out by Googling.

[pegasus]

Without the potential for imparting information that might have been gleaned from Madeleine's bedding, her soft toy and blanket had they been immediately isolated and professionally packed to be checked for traces in a forensic laboratory.

Checking clothing many months after the event was an irrelevance at best.

Given the new intelligence obtained on 1st Aug, it became a top priority to apply the same canine resources to items which had been in the apartment in evening 3 May. If Amaral hadn't done so, all the anti Amaral people would now be jumping up and down claiming he was incompetent to not follow up on the NPIA's advice. 

[pegasus]

It's "long sleeves".
Not "long sleeves but might have been short".
Not "long, medium or short sleeves, whatever fits your theory best"

[slartibartfast]

no...the dog trained to alert to dead bodies and blood alerted.....the handler was asked whether he could confirm this was to cadaver scent and he does not confirm
The dog that was trained to alert repeatedly did not alert to objects before being brought back several times and eventually alerted...

the handler stated these alerts had no evidential reliablity..it is clear why

So my statement was correct.

[Brietta]

But there are other cases where police have gone to a place which the missing person had never lived in, and which on the date of disappearance had no connection to the case (because it was moved to months later), and yet police obtain information there to help solve what happened to the missing person.

That most certainly was not the case here.  Any information arising from using the dogs was directed immediately and pejoratively towards the Drs McCann.  In my opinion the opportunity to concentrate on solving Madeleine's case was passed over in the haste to implicate in particular Dr Kate McCann in her disappearance. 

[Brietta]

You answered a post I addressed to Brietta. You introduced Ashya King who seems to have little to do with the McCann case.
You seem to have copped out as per usual.
What you and Sadie seem to have done with your examples is to indicate the medical profession aren't much cop if one can keep catching them out by Googling.

Why does a surgeon discuss options and give a patient different choices for procedures ... s/he is the expert who knows the best course to take ... yet s/he trusts a layperson who has been given appropriate information to make the decision?  If you choose to do nothing at all - that will be your informed choice - and the surgeon, the expert, will go with whatever you, the layperson, chooses to do.

[ferryman]

But there are other cases where police have gone to a place which the missing person had never lived in, and which on the date of disappearance had no connection to the case (because it was moved to months later), and yet police obtain information there to help solve what happened to the missing person.

Madeleine never lived in the villa and certainly never lived in the gym.

Both inspections were irrelevant, which is why Harrison dismissed them both as PJ exercises.

[Alfred R Jones]

You answered a post I addressed to Brietta. You introduced Ashya King who seems to have little to do with the McCann case.
You seem to have copped out as per usual.
What you and Sadie seem to have done with your examples is to indicate the medical profession aren't much cop if one can keep catching them out by Googling.

But first you introduced structural engineering which has nothing to do with the McCann case.   

[Mr Gray]

You answered a post I addressed to Brietta. You introduced Ashya King who seems to have little to do with the McCann case.
You seem to have copped out as per usual.
What you and Sadie seem to have done with your examples is to indicate the medical profession aren't much cop if one can keep catching them out by Googling.

you must have led a very sheltered life if you think professional negligence is limited to the medical profession. I just knew I would get a much better response as there is so much "doctor hate" on this board. Are you under the illusion that all professionals never make mistakes ...add solicitors, accountants, pharmacists, dentists, opticians,teachers  etc etc. The relevance to tHE mccann case which seem to eluding you is tHAt we are quite justified in criticising Grime....it's like pulling teeth.....no...more like having teeth pulled