Amaral and the dogs

[Alice Purjorick]

well said!

Perhaps you would like to post a link where someone more than a mere gash hand on the topic has stated "The sceptics do not understand the dog alerts".
Otherwise we a dealing with semantics.

[ferryman]

I would say this is nothing to do with whether or not sceptics understand the alerts which was the subject of my post.

You would place sceptics' understanding of alerts above the understanding of Harrison?

[Mr Gray]

Perhaps you would like to post a link where someone more than a mere gash hand on the topic has stated "The sceptics do not understand the dog alerts".
Otherwise we a dealing with semantics.

we are dealing with facts...with what Grime actually states...

[ferryman]

Perhaps you would like to post a link where someone more than a mere gash hand on the topic has stated "The sceptics do not understand the dog alerts".
Otherwise we a dealing with semantics.

Harrison understood the dog alerts and reached no firm conclusion about whether Madeleine was alive or dead.

He also expressed (tacit) criticism of Grime.

[Mr Gray]

lets keep it simple...there is no evidence that a cadaver was ever in 5a..
if posters wish to speculate that there was they are free to do so...but there is nothing to support that speculation..

who says so ...Grime says so

[Alice Purjorick]

we are dealing with facts...with what Grime actually states...

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[pegasus]

Harrison understood the dog alerts and reached no firm conclusion about whether Madeleine was alive or dead.

He also expressed (tacit) criticism of Grime.

It's remarkable how "critisism" can conjured up out of thin air and semantics.
Someone not mentioning something, that is very obvious, is not critisism
For example MH flew over PDL in a helicopter in July 2007 and his report of that flight mysteriously fails to even mention the pilot. Is that (tacit) critisism of the pilot? .

[ferryman]

It's remarkable how "critisism" can conjured up out of thin air and semantics.
Someone not mentioning something, that is very obvious, is not critisism
For example MH flew over PDL in a helicopter in July 2007 and his report of that flight mysteriously fails to even mention the pilot. Is that (tacit) critisism of the pilot? No.

No.

Tacit criticism (of Grime) is Harrison referring to the participation of Grime and his dogs in inspections he (Harrison!) recommended: holiday apartments, the Murats' villa and areas in and around PdL; but excluding reference to Grime and his dogs in inspections he (Harrison) had nothing to do with; the places or things Madeleine never went near:

The timeline of these searches was as follows:
 
On 31-07-07 the PJ conducted canine searches with a search warrant at apartments in Praia da Luz that had been previously occupied by the McCanns and their friends.
 
On 01-08-07 the PJ and GNR assisted by a canine, conducted searches on the eastern beach and wasteland in Praia da Luz.
 
On 02-08-07 the PJ conducted a search warrant at a villa in Praia da Luz currently occupied by the McCann family.
 
Later the same day PJ officers conducted a screening procedure involving items removed from the McCann’s villa.
 
On 03-08-07 PJ and GNR officers were given instruction based on translated extracts from NPIA doctrine on search management and procedures. This focused on search procedures relating to buildings and vehicles.
 
On 04-08-07 and 05-08-07 a search warrant was executed at the villa and gardens belonging to the PJ suspect Robert Murat. This search involved both PJ and GNR personnel supported by civil defence, geophysical equipment operators and a canine handler.
 
On 06-08-07 ten vehicles were searched associated to the enquiry.
 
On 07-08-07 the western beach and remaining wasteland areas were searched using canine and GNR personnel.
 
On 08-08-07 the drains around the apartment block where Madeleine McCann disappeared from were subject to a visual inspection by PJ officers.
 

[stephen25000]

A brief reminder.

The dogs made alerts.

That is what they were trained to do.

Dogs have no agenda, they respond to stimuli, as these did

The forensic results indicated human remains but no more than that.

Since the 3 rd May 2007, not one trace of Madeleine, despite all the publicity surrounding the case.

Those who want to believe she will return alive and unharmed are welcome to their fantasies.

P.S.  Not one piece of evidence, let alone forensics to indicate abduction. The investigation remains at ground zero. So no change on that.

[pegasus]

@Ferryman MH's contract stated that he was to provide enduring advice as the investigation progressed.
It is IMO obvious he was involved in the decision on 1st/2nd Aug 2007 to get a warrant for the villa.
Are you claiming that he had nothing to do with the villa EVRD search?
Strange, I imagined I saw him in that video.

[Mr Gray]

A brief reminder.

The dogs made alerts.

That is what they were trained to do.

Dogs have no agenda, they respond to stimuli, as these did

The forensic results indicated human remains but no more than that.

Since the 3 rd May 2007, not one trace of Madeleine, despite all the publicity surrounding the case.

Those who want to believe she will return alive and unharmed are welcome to their fantasies.

thanks for proving my point

[ferryman]

@Ferryman MH's contract stated that he was to provide enduring advice as the investigation progressed.
It is IMO obvious he was involved in the decision on 1st/2nd Aug 2007 to get a warrant for the villa.
Are you claiming that he had nothing to do with the villa EVRD search?
Strange, I imagined I saw him in that video.

Can you supply the reference, please?

[pegasus]

Can you supply the reference, please?

Reference for MH's remit, or the villa warrant approved on 2nd Aug 2007, or for the villa video?

[Alfred R Jones]

Perhaps you would like to post a link where someone more than a mere gash hand on the topic has stated "The sceptics do not understand the dog alerts".
Otherwise we a dealing with semantics.

What is a gash hand?  It is not a term I am familiar with, sorry.

[Alice Purjorick]

What is a gash hand?  It is not a term I am familiar with, sorry.

http://www.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/english/gash-hand
gash hand
Definition of gash hand in English:
noun
A person not assigned a particular job; a general dogsbody.
Origin
1940s; earliest use found in The British Medical Journal.

In my profession generally further refined to mean someone without the necessary specialist knowledge of or training in the subject matter under discussion.