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Offline faithlilly

Re: Goncalo Amaral.
« Reply #735 on: June 17, 2020, 09:57:34 PM »
Quote from: Davel on June 17, 2020, 08:11:12 PM
the evidence was overwhelming in his case

No it wasn’t but he was convicted, just like Cipriano so no use bleating.
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Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline faithlilly

Re: Goncalo Amaral.
« Reply #736 on: June 17, 2020, 10:02:03 PM »
Quote from: Davel on June 17, 2020, 08:13:03 PM
What is open to opinion is her guilt.

No it’s not. She was tried and found guilty. The end.
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Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline Eleanor

Re: Goncalo Amaral.
« Reply #737 on: June 17, 2020, 10:03:00 PM »
Quote from: Faithlilly on June 17, 2020, 09:55:56 PM
You know what...I’d believe that she had been beaten if she hadn’t proven herself such a committed liar.

The Portuguese Court decided that Leonor Cipriano was beaten while in the custody of The PJ.
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Offline faithlilly

Re: Goncalo Amaral.
« Reply #738 on: June 17, 2020, 10:10:42 PM »
Quote from: Eleanor on June 17, 2020, 10:03:00 PM
The Portuguese Court decided that Leonor Cipriano was beaten while in the custody of The PJ.

And they also said that she was guilty of murder so are you cherry picking the verdicts that suit ?
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Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Goncalo Amaral.
« Reply #739 on: June 17, 2020, 10:12:36 PM »
Quote from: Faithlilly on June 17, 2020, 10:10:42 PM
And they also said that she was guilty of murder so are you cherry picking the verdicts that suit ?

No cherry picking just looking at the evidence.. And there's this..



MST : Let me ask you a question, do you think that in this country many people believes that Leonor Cipriano killed her daughter ?
GA : I think so.
MST : Very few people, Gonçalo Amaral, very few people.
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Offline pathfinder73

Re: Goncalo Amaral.
« Reply #740 on: June 17, 2020, 10:13:16 PM »
Leonor Cipriano condemned to seven more months in jail for false accusations

The Court of Faro condemned today Leonor Cipriano to seven more months in jail for making false accusations in the process which incriminated five Judiciary Police officers of the crimes of aggression and torture.

2 - Leonor Cipriano had already confessed to her crimes on October 13 2004, and was accompanied by her lawyer at the time, Célia Costa, during the questioning before the alleged aggressions on October 14 2004 took place.

https://joana-morais.blogspot.com/2013/04/leonor-cipriano-condemned-to-seven-more.html
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Offline faithlilly

Re: Goncalo Amaral.
« Reply #741 on: June 17, 2020, 10:14:19 PM »
Quote from: Davel on June 17, 2020, 10:12:36 PM
No cherry picking just looking at the evidence.. And there's this..



MST : Let me ask you a question, do you think that in this country many people believes that Leonor Cipriano killed her daughter ?
GA : I think so.
MST : Very few people, Gonçalo Amaral, very few people.

As I said on the other thread....did he carry out a poll ?
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Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Goncalo Amaral.
« Reply #742 on: June 17, 2020, 10:23:23 PM »
Quote from: Faithlilly on June 17, 2020, 10:14:19 PM
As I said on the other thread....did he carry out a poll ?
He certainly shut amaral up which is more to the point
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Offline faithlilly

Re: Goncalo Amaral.
« Reply #743 on: June 17, 2020, 10:36:37 PM »
Quote from: Davel on June 17, 2020, 10:23:23 PM
He certainly shut amaral up which is more to the point

Again....has he carried out a poll ? What is he basing his claim on ?
« Last Edit: June 17, 2020, 10:39:01 PM by Faithlilly »
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Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Goncalo Amaral.
« Reply #744 on: June 18, 2020, 07:51:06 AM »
Quote from: Faithlilly on June 17, 2020, 10:36:37 PM
Again....has he carried out a poll ? What is he basing his claim on ?
On his experience...I would think  a portuguese Journalist would have a far better idea of what the portuguese people think than you or anyone on this forum.
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Offline faithlilly

Re: Goncalo Amaral.
« Reply #745 on: June 18, 2020, 10:38:16 AM »
Quote from: Davel on June 18, 2020, 07:51:06 AM
On his experience...I would think  a portuguese Journalist would have a far better idea of what the portuguese people think than you or anyone on this forum.

So he didn’t do a poll so has no way of knowing. Thank you for verifying that.
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Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline Eleanor

Re: Goncalo Amaral.
« Reply #746 on: June 18, 2020, 10:43:27 AM »

I seem to remember that The Journalist is also a Lawyer.
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Offline faithlilly

Re: Goncalo Amaral.
« Reply #747 on: June 18, 2020, 10:51:42 AM »
Quote from: Eleanor on June 18, 2020, 10:43:27 AM
I seem to remember that The Journalist is also a Lawyer.

Nevertheless he was presenting his opinion as fact
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Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline Eleanor

Re: Goncalo Amaral.
« Reply #748 on: June 18, 2020, 10:54:52 AM »
Quote from: Faithlilly on June 18, 2020, 10:51:42 AM
Nevertheless he was presenting his opinion as fact

There's a lot of that about.
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Offline faithlilly

Re: Goncalo Amaral.
« Reply #749 on: June 18, 2020, 11:20:50 AM »
Quote from: Eleanor on June 18, 2020, 10:54:52 AM
There's a lot of that about.

Indeed.
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Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?
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