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Offline Lace

Re: Goncalo Amaral.
« Reply #1665 on: July 14, 2020, 01:54:15 PM »
It doesn't matter how much evidence they currently have, it could be a truck load, but it's patently not enough to satisfy the threshold to even attempt to charge him. They're not holding anything back from the prosecutor, the prosecutor have binned them off and told them to find more definitive evidence to make a case.
Hence the bizarre request for help in tracing a phone number the internets found in 3 minutes.

I don't think we are in a position to say how much evidence they have.   Could be they want to trace an accomplice.

Offline The General

Re: Goncalo Amaral.
« Reply #1666 on: July 14, 2020, 02:20:36 PM »
I don't think we are in a position to say how much evidence they have.   Could be they want to trace an accomplice.
Eh? If they had enough evidence they would be bang at it. Ergo......they don't have enough evidence. You're suggesting they might have more than they're letting on, which they might, but that 'more than they're letting on' still isn't enough!
So, we are in a position to say how much evidence they've got - not enough.

Besides, the 'concrete evidence' is the EVRD searches + the cache of semi-incriminating child porn.
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Offline G-Unit

Re: Goncalo Amaral.
« Reply #1667 on: July 14, 2020, 02:53:42 PM »
What made it such a high profile case is the intense media interest from the start, that's what.  There are other recent cases in which UK government officials have got involved early on, I just can't think of them right now, but there are - each time one happens I think of this particular case and the criticism of government intervention levelled at it.  As for Benn Needham - different times and attitudes, different level of media coverage, that's why.  IMO

The intense media interest which the McCanns, their friends and their relatives spent all night attracting.
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Offline Venturi Swirl

Re: Goncalo Amaral.
« Reply #1668 on: July 14, 2020, 05:14:42 PM »
The intense media interest which the McCanns, their friends and their relatives spent all night attracting.
And your problem with that is...?
"Surely the fact that their accounts were different reinforces their veracity rather than diminishes it? If they had colluded in protecting ........ surely all of their accounts would be the same?" - Faithlilly

Offline pathfinder73

Re: Goncalo Amaral.
« Reply #1669 on: July 14, 2020, 08:33:54 PM »
Unpublished photos show Maddie's father searching the beach and rocks of Praia da Luz

Gerry walked the rocks and sand with a friend. He never clarified what he was doing.

Tânia Laranjo
June 28, 2020 at 1:30 am



A set of unpublished images, released this Sunday by the CM , show Gerry, the father of Madeleine McCann - the English girl who was then three years old disappeared in the Algarve on May 3, 2007 -, and a friend, in the middle of Praia da Luz, few days after the alert, in what seems like private searches in the sand and rocks. It is another element to cast doubt, at a time when the German police insist that Christian Brueckner, who lived in the Algarve at that time, kidnapped and killed the child.

It is not known who the man is. Only that they left without being seen from the Ocean Club village, where the girl disappeared and where hundreds of journalists and police were concentrated. They used a rear access, reserved for employees. They went to the beach, about 500 meters from where Maddie was left to sleep with her two 18-month-old brothers.



Gerry and his friend talked on the wall and went down to the rocks, where they were looking for something. At that time, the only thesis was still that of abduction. It was advanced by the parents and fed by the English police. There were searches in several places and suspects were being sought. Gerry's behaviour was never explained. Only on that beach he met at least two more Englishmen.

José Manuel Anes, a criminalist and university professor, said this Saturday at CMTV that the McCann couple tried to hire him as an expert, at a time when Kate and Gerry were defendants. He did not answer them.
The former Judiciary Police (PJ) coordinator who investigated Maddie's disappearance, Gonçalo Amaral, revealed yesterday on CMTV that the PJ initially admitted the possibility of kidnapping the child after a request by the British ambassador. “Parents should have been treated as suspects from the start. But there were other pressures. It is not for nothing that the British ambassador of the time came to the place.



The director of the Faro PJ announced that it was a kidnapping after speaking with the ambassador ”, revealed the former inspector, who considers that the German prosecutor who announced that Christian Brueckner is the main suspect in Maddie's kidnapping and death“ has not yet read the process".

According to Gonçalo Amaral, the house where Maddie disappeared "had no signs of burglary" and "the only fingerprints found on the window were the mother's."

In the opinion of the former coordinator of the PJ, the German police "dropped the rabbit and now everything is after him", referring to Christian Brueckner.



https://www.cmjornal.pt/portugal/detalhe/fotos-ineditas-mostram-buscas-do-pai-de-maddie-mccann-no-areal-e-rochas
Smithman carrying a child in his arms checked his watch after passing the Smith family and the time was 10:03. Both are still unidentified 10 years later.

Offline G-Unit

Re: Goncalo Amaral.
« Reply #1670 on: July 14, 2020, 08:36:50 PM »
And your problem with that is...?

What problem?
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Offline Venturi Swirl

Re: Goncalo Amaral.
« Reply #1671 on: July 14, 2020, 09:12:41 PM »
What problem?
You don’t have any problem with the intense media interest the McCanns and their friends managed to generate?  Cool.
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Offline G-Unit

Re: Goncalo Amaral.
« Reply #1672 on: July 14, 2020, 10:22:51 PM »
Unpublished photos show Maddie's father searching the beach and rocks of Praia da Luz

Gerry walked the rocks and sand with a friend. He never clarified what he was doing.

Tânia Laranjo
June 28, 2020 at 1:30 am



A set of unpublished images, released this Sunday by the CM , show Gerry, the father of Madeleine McCann - the English girl who was then three years old disappeared in the Algarve on May 3, 2007 -, and a friend, in the middle of Praia da Luz, few days after the alert, in what seems like private searches in the sand and rocks. It is another element to cast doubt, at a time when the German police insist that Christian Brueckner, who lived in the Algarve at that time, kidnapped and killed the child.

It is not known who the man is. Only that they left without being seen from the Ocean Club village, where the girl disappeared and where hundreds of journalists and police were concentrated. They used a rear access, reserved for employees. They went to the beach, about 500 meters from where Maddie was left to sleep with her two 18-month-old brothers.



Gerry and his friend talked on the wall and went down to the rocks, where they were looking for something. At that time, the only thesis was still that of abduction. It was advanced by the parents and fed by the English police. There were searches in several places and suspects were being sought. Gerry's behaviour was never explained. Only on that beach he met at least two more Englishmen.

José Manuel Anes, a criminalist and university professor, said this Saturday at CMTV that the McCann couple tried to hire him as an expert, at a time when Kate and Gerry were defendants. He did not answer them.
The former Judiciary Police (PJ) coordinator who investigated Maddie's disappearance, Gonçalo Amaral, revealed yesterday on CMTV that the PJ initially admitted the possibility of kidnapping the child after a request by the British ambassador. “Parents should have been treated as suspects from the start. But there were other pressures. It is not for nothing that the British ambassador of the time came to the place.



The director of the Faro PJ announced that it was a kidnapping after speaking with the ambassador ”, revealed the former inspector, who considers that the German prosecutor who announced that Christian Brueckner is the main suspect in Maddie's kidnapping and death“ has not yet read the process".

According to Gonçalo Amaral, the house where Maddie disappeared "had no signs of burglary" and "the only fingerprints found on the window were the mother's."

In the opinion of the former coordinator of the PJ, the German police "dropped the rabbit and now everything is after him", referring to Christian Brueckner.



https://www.cmjornal.pt/portugal/detalhe/fotos-ineditas-mostram-buscas-do-pai-de-maddie-mccann-no-areal-e-rochas

Unpublished? I've seen them before.

https://www.google.com/search?q=gerry+mccann+and+michael+wright&rlz=1CAPKUQ_enGB867GB867&sxsrf=ALeKk03NUFOcxFvFfD8TImCYV-D3s1A_Tg:1594760200759&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwi_m5La0M3qAhUsTBUIHSlDAD0Q_AUoAXoECAsQAw&biw=1163&bih=517
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Offline faithlilly

Re: Goncalo Amaral.
« Reply #1674 on: July 14, 2020, 10:42:41 PM »
Hasn't everybody?  I know I have.

And me. Isn’t the other man the Wright person, husband of Kate’s cousin ?
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline G-Unit

Re: Goncalo Amaral.
« Reply #1675 on: July 14, 2020, 10:47:36 PM »
And me. Isn’t the other man the Wright person, husband of Kate’s cousin ?

Sure is.
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Offline Brietta

Re: Goncalo Amaral.
« Reply #1676 on: July 15, 2020, 08:28:27 AM »
Hasn't everybody?  I know I have.

One of the transcripts of his sofa chat days has Amaral wise cracking about it  ... I cannot remember exactly what he said but it was an unkind, sneering remark when taking into consideration the desperation which drove them to search the rocks on the beach for a missing child.
On reading it I thought it summed up the exact measure of Amaral as a man.
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline The General

Re: Goncalo Amaral.
« Reply #1677 on: July 15, 2020, 08:31:10 AM »
One of the transcripts of his sofa chat days has Amaral wise cracking about it  ... I cannot remember exactly what he said but it was an unkind, sneering remark when taking into consideration the desperation which drove them to search the rocks on the beach for a missing child.
On reading it I thought it summed up the exact measure of Amaral as a man.
Such a memorable remark that you can't remember it.
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Offline Brietta

Re: Goncalo Amaral.
« Reply #1678 on: July 15, 2020, 08:57:57 AM »
Such a memorable remark that you can't remember it.

He made so many and repeated them so often that it is difficult to keep track of them all ... he did after all spend years as a permanent TV pundit doing nothing but living off Madeleine and the human misery he massaged to keep the Euros flooding in.

Did he ever make that huge donation I seem to remember was promised to disadvantaged children ... or is that something else to be airbrushed from history.
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline kizzy

Re: Goncalo Amaral.
« Reply #1679 on: July 15, 2020, 09:06:18 AM »
One of the transcripts of his sofa chat days has Amaral wise cracking about it  ... I cannot remember exactly what he said but it was an unkind, sneering remark when taking into consideration the desperation which drove them to search the rocks on the beach for a missing child.
On reading it I thought it summed up the exact measure of Amaral as a man.

Shows a different light IMO if you don't believe the abduction in the first place.

I believe it summed up the exact measure of mccs as parents.