Goncalo Amaral.

[pathfinder73]

The existence of a cadaver is not a requirement for a cadaver dog to alert.  In Haute de la Garennne for example the Victim Recovery Dog alerted to a tissue used to clean up after a sexual encounter.  Keela the CSI dog also alerted. But there was no cadaver; the dogs had alerted to semen and blood.

Amaral also claimed in his book that the VRD sniffed out a body buried under concrete at the same location.  Amaral was entirely wrong ... no deaths were associated with Haute de la Garenne.

The cadaver dog alerted to their clothes and Keela the blood dog did not.

[G-Unit]

The existence of a cadaver is not a requirement for a cadaver dog to alert.  In Haute de la Garennne for example the Victim Recovery Dog alerted to a tissue used to clean up after a sexual encounter.  Keela the CSI dog also alerted. But there was no cadaver; the dogs had alerted to semen and blood.

Amaral also claimed in his book that the VRD sniffed out a body buried under concrete at the same location.  Amaral was entirely wrong ... no deaths were associated with Haute de la Garenne.

The dogs alerted to blood, not semen.

[Robittybob1]

disgraceful UK media...in your opinion..

Could the word disgraceful be anything other than opinion.  Even if it was the result of a survey it might just be the majority opinion. 

[Mr Gray]

Could the word disgraceful be anything other than opinion.  Even if it was the result of a survey it might just be the majority opinion.

It was presented as fact...its opinion.

[Robittybob1]

Complex indeed, although not without its merits.
Certainly the dogs didn't get it wrong, they rarely do and, backed by cutting edge DNA analysis of the fluids, well your theory certainly holds some weight.
Having said that, finding a different cadaver on a quiet holiday resort, then placing said cadaver in the apartment temporarily for an indeterminate length of time, then subsequently removing the now defiled dead person and successfully disposing of it, would provide a challenge, and would almost certainly require a receptacle larger than a tennis bag and at least two people to manually handle (given current Manual Handling Reg 1992 - although I doubt adherence to any UK Health and Safety legislation would be upper most in their minds when they've got at least one cadaver to shift about, more likely two in this scenario).
This also doesn't explain, if the McCann's didn't 'do away' with poor wee Maddie's body, why would they feel the need to import a deceased person and leave forensic trace.....hang on.......I'm thinking this out.......so......MM meets with a terrible accident and, being DNA savvy, the parents know that they would either need to forensically clean as best they could, or contaminate the residue. So, they spirit MM away in the manner that we've all agreed upon universally, then either run someone over or cruise around looking for someone dead, find an unwilling and unwitting participant, drag them through the patio door (or through the open window, although, again, manual handling would prove a challenge), place the cadaver in various poses around the apartment (like [Name removed] Bueller's Day Off - classic movie), then drag said carcass out in reverse and dump it in a....bin......or......car.....or.......furnace. A furnace. Where locally has a furnace? A furnace manufacturer?

If the parents were involved they would be mastermind material.   In my theory These things are done by others interfering in their lives.
I see there were other holiday makers who were annoyed by the Tapas 9 hogging the bookings at the Tapas Restaurant.  Could they have played a part?   Were the management of the Ocean Club under pressure to do something about it?  John Hill visited Jez Wilkins' apartment for some unexplained reason, a visit he doesn't admit to in his own statement.
Who had walk-in chillers and freezers on hand?

[Robittybob1]

The existence of a cadaver is not a requirement for a cadaver dog to alert.  In Haute de la Garennne for example the Victim Recovery Dog alerted to a tissue used to clean up after a sexual encounter.  Keela the CSI dog also alerted. But there was no cadaver; the dogs had alerted to semen and blood.

Amaral also claimed in his book that the VRD sniffed out a body buried under concrete at the same location.  Amaral was entirely wrong ... no deaths were associated with Haute de la Garenne.

That is true in the minority of cadaver dog cases.  So there are unexplained cases, but in the majority when the dog alerts, particularly in multiple places, one needs to consider the prior presence of a cadaver.  There is no reason to suspect this cadaver was Madeleine.  In fact the DNA results tend to suggest it wasn't her for sure.

But now we have HCW saying he has evidence linking CB to her death.   I was hoping Madeleine was still alive somewhere. 

[Robittybob1]

It was presented as fact...its opinion.

That is disgraceful.

[Anthro]

The dogs alerted to blood, not semen.

Still, the sample collected from the bed by the window indicated semen or saliva?

[Robittybob1]

Still, the sample collected from the bed by the window indicated semen or saliva?

I wasn't aware of a sample from the bed by the window.   Are you thinking of the sample taken from the cover of Madeleine's bed?
PS my error.  Sample was from the bed cover by the window.  http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=7862.msg435045#msg435045

[G-Unit]

Could the word disgraceful be anything other than opinion.  Even if it was the result of a survey it might just be the majority opinion.

Trust in journalists is low, YouGov found the percentage of people who said they trusted journalists a lot/a great deal or a fair amount;

47% BBC News Journalists
41% ITV News Journalists
38% 'Upmarket' newspaper journalists
13% 'mid-market' newspaper journalists
7%   'red top' tabloid newspaper journalists

Around 29% of those polled trusted journalists, with very few trusting those at the lower end of the market.

In another poll YouGov found that confidence in the Police has not fallen below 75% of those polled in 5 years.

https://yougov.co.uk/topics/media/articles-reports/2020/04/29/no-trust-media-has-not-collapsed-because-coronavir
https://www.ethnicity-facts-figures.service.gov.uk/crime-justice-and-the-law/policing/confidence-in-the-local-police/latest

[Brietta]

The dogs alerted to blood, not semen.

As I said ... "the existence of a cadaver is not a requirement for a cadaver dog to alert.  In Haute de la Garennne for example the Victim Recovery Dog alerted to a tissue used to clean up after a sexual encounter.  Keela the CSI dog also alerted. But there was no cadaver; the dogs had alerted to semen and blood."

It was concluded that the dogs alerted to tissues after sexual activity which usually occurs while participants are alive and well.

Haut de la Garenne
 
OPERATION RECTANGLE SUMMARY REPORT JULY 22 2008

V/T 9 Re-enforced concrete machine gun post and protective trench, personnel shelter attached. Earth and debris removed by hand and plant machinery to allow access.
The forensic strategy was implemented with the following results.

EVRD – positive indication.
SOCO visual – positive.
Blood dog - positive indication.
Visual – positive.
UV – negative (items removed prior to screening).
Quasar - negative.

Positive indications confirmed as being recently deposited tissues used to clean up after sex by unknown persons. Offences not suspected at this stage. Retained as exhibit should there be future reports of offences. There will be no forensic submission at this stage.
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VT / 9 Trench and gun emplacement containing small personnel shelter. Forensic examination revealed recently deposited tissues that appeared to have been used to ‘clean up following sexual intercourse’. It would appear that the shelter had been used as a venue for courting couples. This alert is within the trained parameters of the dog’s repertoire and is a satisfactory explanation of the alert.
https://catalogue.jerseyheritage.org/collection/Details/archive/110390044

[Brietta]

Trust in journalists is low, YouGov found the percentage of people who said they trusted journalists a lot/a great deal or a fair amount;

47% BBC News Journalists
41% ITV News Journalists
38% 'Upmarket' newspaper journalists
13% 'mid-market' newspaper journalists
7%   'red top' tabloid newspaper journalists

Around 29% of those polled trusted journalists, with very few trusting those at the lower end of the market.

In another poll YouGov found that confidence in the Police has not fallen below 75% of those polled in 5 years.

https://yougov.co.uk/topics/media/articles-reports/2020/04/29/no-trust-media-has-not-collapsed-because-coronavir
https://www.ethnicity-facts-figures.service.gov.uk/crime-justice-and-the-law/policing/confidence-in-the-local-police/latest

Trust is a two way street, and it seems trustworthy is not a description journalist Sandra Felgueiras would apply to Amaral anymore, as she tells it in the Netflix documentary ...  “Gonçalo Amaral lied to me”
Why she was astounded by that astonishes me.

[The General]

Trust is a two way street, and it seems trustworthy is not a description journalist Sandra Felgueiras would apply to Amaral anymore, as she tells it in the Netflix documentary ...  “Gonçalo Amaral lied to me”
Why she was astounded by that astonishes me.

I think she's lying to us about Snr Dr. Amaral lying to her. Why? Jane Fonda had to hang her hat on something before she vaulted the fence.
In fairness, it's worked. Instead of reporting on the Lagos Chilli Eating Contest, or the remarkable albino goat born on a farm just outside Portimao, she's managed to winkle out a niche 'reporting' her tainted view of the MM case, despite her manifold shortcomings.
Good luck to her.

[Mr Gray]

I think she's lying to us about Snr Dr. Amaral lying to her. Why? Jane Fonda had to hang her hat on something before she vaulted the fence.
In fairness, it's worked. Instead of reporting on the Lagos Chilli Eating Contest, or the remarkable albino goat born on a farm just outside Portimao, she's managed to winkle out a niche 'reporting' her tainted view of the MM case, despite her manifold shortcomings.
Good luck to her.

but we know what has been said isnt true...so if he didnt lie to her...who did

[The General]

but we know what has been said isnt true...so if he didnt lie to her...who did

We don't know what's true or not, whether you think you know or not what you think is true; which we don't know.
She's an opportunist journalist; a flip-flopping hack. Nothing wrong with it, in fact it's an admirable trait, the ability to adapt and reinvent / reposition oneself to suit the zeitgeist. In fact it may even be essential for the gutter press to keep their finger on the pulse and move with the mood.

At least Martin Brunt is old and grizzled enough to smell a rat. He's on to HCW, I could see it in his laconic gaze and furrowed brow - he ain't buying what HCW is hawking, and he subtly made us aware that, mid-interview, he shifted one of his arse cheeks on to the stile, in readiness to hop over, avoiding the puddle of cow filth with a jaunty leap.