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Offline Eleanor

Re: Goncalo Amaral.
« Reply #4050 on: January 15, 2022, 10:42:26 AM »

He's discussed blame Re the parents but only now he only mentions neglect..  Imo you simply won't accept true facts.  He hasn't mentioned his so called theory for perhaps two years now

Amaral is worried about The ECHR decision.  This could get nasty if Amaral loses.

Have no doubt that this is all about Amaral, Portugal notwithstanding.

Offline jassi

Re: Goncalo Amaral.
« Reply #4051 on: January 15, 2022, 10:45:13 AM »
Amaral is worried about The ECHR decision.  This could get nasty if Amaral loses.

Have no doubt that this is all about Amaral, Portugal notwithstanding.

I think you are completely wrong here, but we shall see in the fullness of time.
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Offline Eleanor

Re: Goncalo Amaral.
« Reply #4052 on: January 15, 2022, 10:53:46 AM »
I think you are completely wrong here, but we shall see in the fullness of time.

I am wrong about what?  Amaral or The Supreme Court?

Amaral did write a Libellous Book based on his supposed knowledge of The Case.

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Goncalo Amaral.
« Reply #4053 on: January 15, 2022, 10:55:25 AM »
I think you are completely wrong here, but we shall see in the fullness of time.

Eleanor is absolutely right.  If the McCanns win in Europe that could lead to the libel case being retried in portugal

Offline barrier

Re: Goncalo Amaral.
« Reply #4054 on: January 15, 2022, 10:57:59 AM »
I am wrong about what?  Amaral or The Supreme Court?

Amaral did write a Libellous Book based on his supposed knowledge of The Case.


We could get into a argument about that, now seeing as neither one of us or any one else on here is employed by Carter Ruck, (that we know of) "Libellous Book" is but an opinion not backed by law.
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Offline barrier

Re: Goncalo Amaral.
« Reply #4055 on: January 15, 2022, 10:58:47 AM »
Eleanor is absolutely right.  If the McCanns win in Europe that could lead to the libel case being retried in portugal


If ,buts and mauve's why not wait for the verdict which ever way it goes.
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: Goncalo Amaral.
« Reply #4056 on: January 15, 2022, 11:09:15 AM »

If ,buts and mauve's why not wait for the verdict which ever way it goes.

I tend to agree but it's sceptics that are repeatedly telling us it's going to be thrown out

Offline Eleanor

Re: Goncalo Amaral.
« Reply #4057 on: January 15, 2022, 12:05:50 PM »

We could get into a argument about that, now seeing as neither one of us or any one else on here is employed by Carter Ruck, (that we know of) "Libellous Book" is but an opinion not backed by law.

Not backed by Portuguese Law.  Which is entirely suspect.

Offline jassi

Re: Goncalo Amaral.
« Reply #4058 on: January 15, 2022, 12:12:35 PM »
Eleanor is absolutely right.  If the McCanns win in Europe that could lead to the libel case being retried in portugal

I think that's just your wishful thinking.

Whoever wins, that'll be the end of it .

IMO
I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -

OG have been pushed out by the Germans who have reserved all the deck chairs for the foreseeable future

Offline G-Unit

Re: Goncalo Amaral.
« Reply #4059 on: January 15, 2022, 12:16:16 PM »
Not backed by Portuguese Law.  Which is entirely suspect.

Portuguese law is entirely suspect in your opinion. In reality most countries on the continent of Europe have similar legal systems.
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Offline Venturi Swirl

Re: Goncalo Amaral.
« Reply #4060 on: January 15, 2022, 12:23:00 PM »
I think that's just your wishful thinking.

Whoever wins, that'll be the end of it .

IMO
Not on here it won't be.  @)(++(*
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Offline Eleanor

Re: Goncalo Amaral.
« Reply #4061 on: January 15, 2022, 12:30:40 PM »
Portuguese law is entirely suspect in your opinion. In reality most countries on the continent of Europe have similar legal systems.

Have you any knowledge of other European Countries beating up suspects?

Offline G-Unit

Re: Goncalo Amaral.
« Reply #4062 on: January 15, 2022, 01:52:33 PM »
Have you any knowledge of other European Countries beating up suspects?

It's not unknown;

the infamous reputation of the French system of custody (garde à vue), suspect interview (evocatively called interrogatoire) and the frequency of subsequent confession, not unassociated with the violence reported – the most notorious case concerned Ahmed Selmouni, who took France to the Court of European Human Rights alleging he was both physically and seriously sexually assaulted while in police custody.
https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/10439463.2013.784294

France becomes first EU state to be convicted of torture
https://www.irishtimes.com/news/france-becomes-first-eu-state-to-be-convicted-of-torture-1.211387
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: Goncalo Amaral.
« Reply #4063 on: January 15, 2022, 02:15:59 PM »
I think that's just your wishful thinking.

Whoever wins, that'll be the end of it .

IMO

It's part of Portuguese law.. Not wishful thinking at all

Offline Eleanor

Re: Goncalo Amaral.
« Reply #4064 on: January 15, 2022, 02:17:03 PM »
It's not unknown;

the infamous reputation of the French system of custody (garde à vue), suspect interview (evocatively called interrogatoire) and the frequency of subsequent confession, not unassociated with the violence reported – the most notorious case concerned Ahmed Selmouni, who took France to the Court of European Human Rights alleging he was both physically and seriously sexually assaulted while in police custody.
https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/10439463.2013.784294

France becomes first EU state to be convicted of torture
https://www.irishtimes.com/news/france-becomes-first-eu-state-to-be-convicted-of-torture-1.211387

1991.  Some fourteen years before Portugal were still doing the same thing.