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Offline Brietta

Re: Goncalo Amaral.
« Reply #5100 on: August 12, 2022, 01:02:54 PM »
Oh Dear B get over it..... after all GA was not the only one who thinks the mccs are involved.

If we are talking incompetence of GA you should consider the incompetence of the mccs - they are the ones who who decided to leave there babies on there own regardless of any consequence.

IMO its like the philpotts not being responsible and blaming the fire brigade for not putting the fire out.

The mccs struck the match that resulted in the disappearance of maddie....not GA.

We will never know because of UK interference ...what GA would have achieved.

The problem which I think stems from the base nature of the hero of the hour for some Amaral, is the inherent nastiness which was in vogue for a time of making comparison with the Phillpots et al.

Interestingly it is said that Ian Brady enjoyed using that sort of criticism.  Pathetic to have the imprimatur of a creature such as that.
« Last Edit: August 12, 2022, 01:10:59 PM by Brietta »
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline G-Unit

Re: Goncalo Amaral.
« Reply #5101 on: August 12, 2022, 01:29:25 PM »
The problem which I think stems from the base nature of the hero of the hour for some Amaral, is the inherent nastiness which was in vogue for a time of making comparison with the Phillpots et al.

Interestingly it is said that Ian Brady enjoyed using that sort of criticism.  Pathetic to have the imprimatur of a creature such as that.

Whatever you say about Amaral - and most of it is speculation, not fact, imo - there's no getting away from the fact that Madeleine's parents were the last people to see her, and she disappeared on their watch.
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Offline Venturi Swirl

Re: Goncalo Amaral.
« Reply #5102 on: August 12, 2022, 01:35:06 PM »
Whatever you say about Amaral - and most of it is speculation, not fact, imo - there's no getting away from the fact that Madeleine's parents were the last people to see her, and she disappeared on their watch.
So what?  Chloe Smith's parents were the last to see her and she disappeared on their watch - until she was found days later, having been abducted by a stranger. 
"Surely the fact that their accounts were different reinforces their veracity rather than diminishes it? If they had colluded in protecting ........ surely all of their accounts would be the same?" - Faithlilly

Offline kizzy

Re: Goncalo Amaral.
« Reply #5103 on: August 12, 2022, 01:37:28 PM »
The problem which I think stems from the base nature of the hero of the hour for some Amaral, is the inherent nastiness which was in vogue for a time of making comparison with the Phillpots et al.

Interestingly it is said that Ian Brady enjoyed using that sort of criticism.  Pathetic to have the imprimatur of a creature such as that.


hero of the hour for some Amaral,


Look, these are your words ...no one else's certainly not mine for some reason GA is a thorn in your side.

The damage was done by the mccs. 

What do you think GA would have done to try and solve the case if he had been given the chance. you dont know o you.

The case was to high profile for anything untoward to happen to them.

They were never going to end up in an episode of Banged up abroad.



Well, approximately one year ago, we all watched, stupefied, a sort of spectacle that had until then been unheard of, among us. Like in the witch hunts of the past, a certain media (mainly English, but unfortunately not only that) destroyed a Man from the Portuguese Polícia Judiciária in public. A high-ranking Criminal Investigation career official. A colleague and a friend to so many of us. A character assassination like no other employee of this House had ever been a victim of, before. And why?

Because, as had always been his hallmark, Dr. Gonçalo Amaral, a Polícia Judiciária Criminal Investigation Coordinator, went to fight, committed himself, faced, bravely and decidedly, the difficulties and the setbacks of a service case that is extremely complex and whose outlines are still undefined, and may remain so forever.

Maybe for the first time in the Polícia Judiciária's History, an investigator is exposed in public and his private life is rummaged. Merely because he was investigating a certain suspicious case. Because he was working. Maybe the Portuguese State, the Public Administration, our Polícia Judiciária, should have mechanisms in place to protect its representatives in situations like this one. In order to safeguard them as they carry out their professional activity for the benefit of Public Service. Maybe all of us, colleagues in profession, should have stood up, and honouring the so famous, so traditional and so bandied about "Esprit de Corps" that they say is characteristic of our "House", should have somehow manifested our support of Dr. Gonçalo Amaral.



Offline Mr Gray

Re: Goncalo Amaral.
« Reply #5104 on: August 12, 2022, 01:49:47 PM »
Whatever you say about Amaral - and most of it is speculation, not fact, imo - there's no getting away from the fact that Madeleine's parents were the last people to see her, and she disappeared on their watch.
How can amarsl have any credibility when he didn't understand the evidence...that's fact not opinion

His whole  thesis is based on total junk..fact...can't you see that
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: Goncalo Amaral.
« Reply #5105 on: August 12, 2022, 01:53:13 PM »


hero of the hour for some Amaral,


Look, these are your words ...no one else's certainly not mine for some reason GA is a thorn in your side.

The damage was done by the mccs. 

What do you think GA would have done to try and solve the case if he had been given the chance. you dont know o you.

The case was to high profile for anything untoward to happen to them.

They were never going to end up in an episode of Banged up abroad.



Well, approximately one year ago, we all watched, stupefied, a sort of spectacle that had until then been unheard of, among us. Like in the witch hunts of the past, a certain media (mainly English, but unfortunately not only that) destroyed a Man from the Portuguese Polícia Judiciária in public. A high-ranking Criminal Investigation career official. A colleague and a friend to so many of us. A character assassination like no other employee of this House had ever been a victim of, before. And why?

Because, as had always been his hallmark, Dr. Gonçalo Amaral, a Polícia Judiciária Criminal Investigation Coordinator, went to fight, committed himself, faced, bravely and decidedly, the difficulties and the setbacks of a service case that is extremely complex and whose outlines are still undefined, and may remain so forever.

Maybe for the first time in the Polícia Judiciária's History, an investigator is exposed in public and his private life is rummaged. Merely because he was investigating a certain suspicious case. Because he was working. Maybe the Portuguese State, the Public Administration, our Polícia Judiciária, should have mechanisms in place to protect its representatives in situations like this one. In order to safeguard them as they carry out their professional activity for the benefit of Public Service. Maybe all of us, colleagues in profession, should have stood up, and honouring the so famous, so traditional and so bandied about "Esprit de Corps" that they say is characteristic of our "House", should have somehow manifested our support of Dr. Gonçalo Amaral.




Amaral couldn't solve thr case if he couldn't understand the evidence...fact. His logic to support death in the apartment is total junk...have you read his book

Offline Eleanor

Re: Goncalo Amaral.
« Reply #5106 on: August 12, 2022, 01:57:35 PM »


hero of the hour for some Amaral,


Look, these are your words ...no one else's certainly not mine for some reason GA is a thorn in your side.

The damage was done by the mccs. 

What do you think GA would have done to try and solve the case if he had been given the chance. you dont know o you.

The case was to high profile for anything untoward to happen to them.

They were never going to end up in an episode of Banged up abroad.



Well, approximately one year ago, we all watched, stupefied, a sort of spectacle that had until then been unheard of, among us. Like in the witch hunts of the past, a certain media (mainly English, but unfortunately not only that) destroyed a Man from the Portuguese Polícia Judiciária in public. A high-ranking Criminal Investigation career official. A colleague and a friend to so many of us. A character assassination like no other employee of this House had ever been a victim of, before. And why?

Because, as had always been his hallmark, Dr. Gonçalo Amaral, a Polícia Judiciária Criminal Investigation Coordinator, went to fight, committed himself, faced, bravely and decidedly, the difficulties and the setbacks of a service case that is extremely complex and whose outlines are still undefined, and may remain so forever.

Maybe for the first time in the Polícia Judiciária's History, an investigator is exposed in public and his private life is rummaged. Merely because he was investigating a certain suspicious case. Because he was working. Maybe the Portuguese State, the Public Administration, our Polícia Judiciária, should have mechanisms in place to protect its representatives in situations like this one. In order to safeguard them as they carry out their professional activity for the benefit of Public Service. Maybe all of us, colleagues in profession, should have stood up, and honouring the so famous, so traditional and so bandied about "Esprit de Corps" that they say is characteristic of our "House", should have somehow manifested our support of Dr. Gonçalo Amaral.




Tis strange that no one went to his Leaving Party.

Offline kizzy

Re: Goncalo Amaral.
« Reply #5107 on: August 12, 2022, 02:03:15 PM »
How can amarsl have any credibility when he didn't understand the evidence...that's fact not opinion

His whole  thesis is based on total junk..fact...can't you see that

Seems you have an obsession with evidence. weather GA understood it or not. that is only your opinion.

He was right about a scapegoat being brought in the picture.

Still not charged over two years later. what is the evidence Wolters has concrete at that.  Its going to fizzle out to zilch

Just like the no evidence of abduction zilch
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Offline kizzy

Re: Goncalo Amaral.
« Reply #5108 on: August 12, 2022, 02:05:19 PM »
Tis strange that no one went to his Leaving Party.

Probably he didn't want a leaving party.

Offline Eleanor

Re: Goncalo Amaral.
« Reply #5109 on: August 12, 2022, 02:08:19 PM »
Probably he didn't want a leaving party.

His wife complained about it.

Offline kizzy

Re: Goncalo Amaral.
« Reply #5110 on: August 12, 2022, 02:11:09 PM »
His wife complained about it.

What, that no one went

Offline Eleanor

Re: Goncalo Amaral.
« Reply #5111 on: August 12, 2022, 02:15:21 PM »
What, that no one went

Yes.  She couldn't understand why.  And was upset.

Offline kizzy

Re: Goncalo Amaral.
« Reply #5112 on: August 12, 2022, 03:08:23 PM »
Why don't you believe it?

Because I don't.

Why do you believe it was.....and why



Offline Venturi Swirl

Re: Goncalo Amaral.
« Reply #5113 on: August 12, 2022, 03:19:19 PM »
Because I don't.

Why do you believe it was.....and why
Because it was seen open by an independent witness for one thing. 
"Surely the fact that their accounts were different reinforces their veracity rather than diminishes it? If they had colluded in protecting ........ surely all of their accounts would be the same?" - Faithlilly

Offline Venturi Swirl

Re: Goncalo Amaral.
« Reply #5114 on: August 12, 2022, 03:20:23 PM »
Seems you have an obsession with evidence. weather GA understood it or not. that is only your opinion.

He was right about a scapegoat being brought in the picture.

Still not charged over two years later. what is the evidence Wolters has concrete at that.  Its going to fizzle out to zilch

Just like the no evidence of abduction zilch
Being obsessed by the evidence is not a bad thing.  It's better that being obsessed with the McCanns' guilt without fully understanding the evidence.
"Surely the fact that their accounts were different reinforces their veracity rather than diminishes it? If they had colluded in protecting ........ surely all of their accounts would be the same?" - Faithlilly