Author Topic: Goncalo Amaral.  (Read 408479 times)

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Offline Eleanor

Re: Goncalo Amaral.
« Reply #5190 on: August 14, 2022, 12:54:38 PM »
Does it matter? Rebelo was not satisfied with the evidence before him from the parents and their friends. That’s two senior investigators who had misgivings…Amaral obviously was not a lone voice and no matter what his faults, and there were many, it’s disingenuous to suggest that he was.

From what I gathered, Rebelo didn't know what was going on, due to the mess left behind by Amaral when he was sacked.

So not quite the same thing.

Offline kizzy

Re: Goncalo Amaral.
« Reply #5191 on: August 14, 2022, 12:55:13 PM »
Anyone who thinks amaral knows what he's talking about is seriously deluded. His book proves he hasn't got a clue with the amount of lies he tells. He says Eddie found a body under a flagstone in Jersey.His ignorance of the truth and the ignorance of his supporters is laughable

Anyone who thinks amaral knows what he's talking about is seriously deluded.

Not at all - only in your opinion, look at the Tens of thousands raised in UK for his defence against the mccs.

GA believes the mccs were involved ....even to this day - there has been nothing to prove him wrong.


Offline Venturi Swirl

Re: Goncalo Amaral.
« Reply #5192 on: August 14, 2022, 12:57:24 PM »
Indeed but from the diligences carried out after Amaral was removed from the investigation it appears Rebelo didn’t believe they were innocent either yet he avoids the vitriol directed at Amaral. Most odd.
That's because Rebelo had the decency not to make a career out of the missing child and because he wasn't a liar with a criminal conviction. 
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Offline G-Unit

Re: Goncalo Amaral.
« Reply #5193 on: August 14, 2022, 01:19:50 PM »
Is that The Rogatory Interviews that Rebelo bailed out of half way through and before David Payne was even heard?

More Leaks from The PJ I believe.

Alleged leaks. The alleged contents differed from the actual contents of the original documents, so wherever they came from it wasn't the PJ files imo.
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Offline Eleanor

Re: Goncalo Amaral.
« Reply #5194 on: August 14, 2022, 01:26:45 PM »
Alleged leaks. The alleged contents differed from the actual contents of the original documents, so wherever they came from it wasn't the PJ files imo.

Rebelo certainly took off back to Portugal at a rate of knots and half way through The Rogatories.  Rebelo thought he had put a stop to The Leaks, but apparently not.

Offline G-Unit

Re: Goncalo Amaral.
« Reply #5195 on: August 14, 2022, 01:36:43 PM »
Rebelo certainly took off back to Portugal at a rate of knots and half way through The Rogatories.  Rebelo thought he had put a stop to The Leaks, but apparently not.

The evidence says the PJ did not leak the McCanns statements.
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Offline Venturi Swirl

Re: Goncalo Amaral.
« Reply #5196 on: August 14, 2022, 01:37:08 PM »
Alleged leaks. The alleged contents differed from the actual contents of the original documents, so wherever they came from it wasn't the PJ files imo.
Are you still under the impression it was the McCanns who leaked despite the fact they had absolutely nothing to gain from doing so?
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Offline Venturi Swirl

Re: Goncalo Amaral.
« Reply #5197 on: August 14, 2022, 01:38:01 PM »
The evidence says the PJ did not leak the McCanns statements.
No it doesn't, all it says is - that the documents were not leaked verbatim but the info contained was probably re-written or recapped from memory by a member of the PJ leaking to the media.
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Offline G-Unit

Re: Goncalo Amaral.
« Reply #5198 on: August 14, 2022, 01:38:54 PM »
That's because Rebelo had the decency not to make a career out of the missing child and because he wasn't a liar with a criminal conviction.

So it was OK that he didn't believe the abduction story?
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Offline Eleanor

Re: Goncalo Amaral.
« Reply #5199 on: August 14, 2022, 01:43:28 PM »
The evidence says the PJ did not leak the McCanns statements.

Who said anything about The McCann Statements?

Offline Eleanor

Re: Goncalo Amaral.
« Reply #5200 on: August 14, 2022, 01:44:56 PM »
So it was OK that he didn't believe the abduction story?

Who said Rebelo didn't believe the Abduction Story?

Offline G-Unit

Re: Goncalo Amaral.
« Reply #5201 on: August 14, 2022, 01:55:40 PM »
No it doesn't, all it says is - that the documents were not leaked verbatim but the info contained was probably re-written or recapped from memory by a member of the PJ leaking to the media.

I think the TV station could have clarified the matter by producing these statements. Perhaps they couldn't?
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Offline Eleanor

Re: Goncalo Amaral.
« Reply #5202 on: August 14, 2022, 02:03:07 PM »

Rebelo was sent in to sort out the mess left by Amaral and to stop the leaks.

As far as I know he has never expressed an opinion.  But the he wouldn't would he.

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Goncalo Amaral.
« Reply #5203 on: August 14, 2022, 02:08:35 PM »
Does it matter? Rebelo was not satisfied with the evidence before him from the parents and their friends. That’s two senior investigators who had misgivings…Amaral obviously was not a lone voice and no matter what his faults, and there were many, it’s disingenuous to suggest that he was.
The portuguese dint understand the evidence....alerts and dna. Anyon ewho was stupid enough to beleive the alerts proved Maddies death in the apartment...as most sceptics do.....would think the Mccanns guilty

Offline kizzy

Re: Goncalo Amaral.
« Reply #5204 on: August 14, 2022, 02:24:37 PM »
The portuguese dint understand the evidence....alerts and dna. Anyon ewho was stupid enough to beleive the alerts proved Maddies death in the apartment...as most sceptics do.....would think the Mccanns guilty

I think that would go more for Wolters ...and his so called concrete evidence



IMO I think Goncalo Amaral came to a sensible conclusion at that time in the investigation. As he has said numerous times, the investigation was not allowed to run it's course and test certain theories to the end. His hypothesis may have changed had other information come to light.

How is that so hard to understand?  I think he was close with his theory and allowed to carry on his investigation unhindered, would have uncovered more detail of what happened.
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