Author Topic: Goncalo Amaral.  (Read 408758 times)

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Offline Lace

Re: Goncalo Amaral.
« Reply #5355 on: August 25, 2022, 05:14:16 PM »
Well my observation would be the golden hour etc was lost the minute the mccs let 20 people odd tramp round the place.

Why, after all she had already searched the place thoroughly....and knew maddie had been taken.

Oh for goodness sake,  the McCann's were searching for their daughter,  what do you mean 'let twenty odd people tramp around the place'.  Their main concern was finding their daughter.   

Offline Lace

Re: Goncalo Amaral.
« Reply #5356 on: August 25, 2022, 05:16:04 PM »

What I do think, if they spent the time looking into people who was there - they would have got somewhere by now.

Instead of looking for a cap that fits the abduction theory.

Instead of the cap that incriminated the McCann's you mean?   Detectives have ruled out the McCann's  get up to date.  Three Police forces are looking at CB.

Offline Wonderfulspam

Re: Goncalo Amaral.
« Reply #5357 on: August 25, 2022, 06:43:31 PM »
Instead of the cap that incriminated the McCann's you mean?   Detectives have ruled out the McCann's  get up to date.  Three Police forces are looking at CB.

Not seeing much though are they.
Certainly not seeing him being charged anytime in the foreseeable future anyway.
So maybe he just didn't do it.
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Offline Rossb

Re: Goncalo Amaral.
« Reply #5358 on: August 26, 2022, 08:42:53 AM »
Not seeing much though are they.
Certainly not seeing him being charged anytime in the foreseeable future anyway.
So maybe he just didn't do it.

Yeah 15 years later mi5 and mi6 must be really good.

Offline G-Unit

Re: Goncalo Amaral.
« Reply #5359 on: August 26, 2022, 09:39:14 AM »
Oh for goodness sake,  the McCann's were searching for their daughter,  what do you mean 'let twenty odd people tramp around the place'.  Their main concern was finding their daughter.

They were, according to Kate McCann, at least aware of the need to keep the crime scene undisturbed:

"until one of the PJ officers stuck a piece of police tape across the doorway of the children’s room, it was Gerry who tried to make sure everyone kept clear of it." [madeleine page 86]
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Offline Venturi Swirl

Re: Goncalo Amaral.
« Reply #5360 on: August 26, 2022, 09:49:01 AM »
They were, according to Kate McCann, at least aware of the need to keep the crime scene undisturbed:

"until one of the PJ officers stuck a piece of police tape across the doorway of the children’s room, it was Gerry who tried to make sure everyone kept clear of it." [madeleine page 86]
yes, once the importance of doing so had sunk in after the initial panic.  But let's beat them up about it anyway, it will achieve a whole lot.  Not. 
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Offline Eleanor

Re: Goncalo Amaral.
« Reply #5361 on: August 26, 2022, 10:14:21 AM »
yes, once the importance of doing so had sunk in after the initial panic.  But let's beat them up about it anyway, it will achieve a whole lot.  Not.

Don't you know you are supposed to be on the ball if your child gets abducted?  Instantly able to speak a foreign language and seal off the crime scene while getting out there searching.

PS.  Has anyone got the number of The French Emergency Services?  Someone might abduct Robin Dominic one of these days, with a bit of luck.  But lay off O'Connor the Dachshund.  I'm not having that.  And besides, he is really awful and you wouldn't want him anyway.

Offline Venturi Swirl

Re: Goncalo Amaral.
« Reply #5362 on: August 26, 2022, 10:23:27 AM »
Don't you know you are supposed to be on the ball if your child gets abducted?  Instantly able to speak a foreign language and seal off the crime scene while getting out there searching.

PS.  Has anyone got the number of The French Emergency Services?  Someone might abduct Robin Dominic one of these days, with a bit of luck.  But lay off O'Connor the Dachshund.  I'm not having that.  And besides, he is really awful and you wouldn't want him anyway.
Un Un Deux pour Les Services d'Emergency. Mais Je had to google it, je pense que it was Un Un Un mais Je was wrong.
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Offline Eleanor

Re: Goncalo Amaral.
« Reply #5363 on: August 26, 2022, 10:37:53 AM »
Un Un Deux pour Les Services d'Emergency. Mais Je had to google it, je pense que it was Un Un Un mais Je was wrong.

Thanks.  That's a lot of help since my French is abysmal, and so apparently is yours.

Offline Brietta

Re: Goncalo Amaral.
« Reply #5364 on: August 26, 2022, 10:40:13 AM »
Don't you know you are supposed to be on the ball if your child gets abducted?  Instantly able to speak a foreign language and seal off the crime scene while getting out there searching.

PS.  Has anyone got the number of The French Emergency Services?  Someone might abduct Robin Dominic one of these days, with a bit of luck.  But lay off O'Connor the Dachshund.  I'm not having that.  And besides, he is really awful and you wouldn't want him anyway.


The utter contempt displayed by Amaral for the grief and anguish of parents in the midst of unimaginable trauma is exemplified by his descriptions in his book and in his documentary.

It is a measure of this invisible man who wasn't even there as a witness to the events described.

But who didn't miss seizing the opportunity to deride and mock the parents of a missing child in the midst of their panic and distress.
The theme might have been "praying Arabs" and used to caricature and demean ~ but in retrospect the individual who emerges from it with reputation shredded is Amaral ~ whose portrayal of the event illustrates nothing but his inhumanity.
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline Brietta

Re: Goncalo Amaral.
« Reply #5365 on: August 26, 2022, 10:52:34 AM »
Don't you know you are supposed to be on the ball if your child gets abducted?  Instantly able to speak a foreign language and seal off the crime scene while getting out there searching.

PS.  Has anyone got the number of The French Emergency Services?  Someone might abduct Robin Dominic one of these days, with a bit of luck.  But lay off O'Connor the Dachshund.  I'm not having that.  And besides, he is really awful and you wouldn't want him anyway.

Hindsight is a perfect science.

Proved by Amaral being able to tell us fifteen years down the line that Brueckner had been on the police radar they just didn't find him.

Imagine if he had been in the position of being able to have continued looking and perhaps finding him early days in May 2007.
Perhaps if the unanswered knock at the door had been followed through and if they still couldn't locate him but as a result knew he was missing, to where that might have progressed.  Fifteen years later, though?
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline Wonderfulspam

Re: Goncalo Amaral.
« Reply #5366 on: August 26, 2022, 10:59:26 AM »
Hindsight is a perfect science.

Proved by Amaral being able to tell us fifteen years down the line that Brueckner had been on the police radar they just didn't find him.

Imagine if he had been in the position of being able to have continued looking and perhaps finding him early days in May 2007.
Perhaps if the unanswered knock at the door had been followed through and if they still couldn't locate him but as a result knew he was missing, to where that might have progressed.  Fifteen years later, though?

Well it wouldn't have got anywhere because Brueckner destroyed the evidence. Same reason Wolters is struggling now no doubt.
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Offline Rossb

Re: Goncalo Amaral.
« Reply #5367 on: August 26, 2022, 10:59:47 AM »
Don't you know you are supposed to be on the ball if your child gets abducted?  Instantly able to speak a foreign language and seal off the crime scene while getting out there searching.

PS.  Has anyone got the number of The French Emergency Services?  Someone might abduct Robin Dominic one of these days, with a bit of luck.  But lay off O'Connor the Dachshund.  I'm not having that.  And besides, he is really awful and you wouldn't want him anyway.

People say how rare it is for a child to be abducted in a foreign country. So how rare is it for parents in a foreign country to hide an accidental death? Zilch

Offline Eleanor

Re: Goncalo Amaral.
« Reply #5368 on: August 26, 2022, 11:34:28 AM »

The utter contempt displayed by Amaral for the grief and anguish of parents in the midst of unimaginable trauma is exemplified by his descriptions in his book and in his documentary.

It is a measure of this invisible man who wasn't even there as a witness to the events described.

But who didn't miss seizing the opportunity to deride and mock the parents of a missing child in the midst of their panic and distress.
The theme might have been "praying Arabs" and used to caricature and demean ~ but in retrospect the individual who emerges from it with reputation shredded is Amaral ~ whose portrayal of the event illustrates nothing but his inhumanity.

I believe that Amaral was hoping to prop up the treatment of The Ciprianos, especially as he was made Arguido himself on the very next day.

The PJ appear to have been a law unto itself until then and deeming anyone guilty even if there was no evidence.  Choose your perpetrator and then fit them up.

Despite the misery of The McCanns this has in many ways  been successful in exposing this.  Amaral was in fact just an ignorant peasant who was used by the power of the Old Guard who reinvented themselves during the Two Revolutions and are still in power to this day.  Sitting comfortably at The Supreme Court of Portugal.

It will end one day, probably only when they are all dead.  Meanwhile, Amaral is the real Scapegoat.

It took one English Woman and one very small child to question the ethics of The PJ.  How very sad is that.

Offline Eleanor

Re: Goncalo Amaral.
« Reply #5369 on: August 26, 2022, 11:50:30 AM »
Hindsight is a perfect science.

Proved by Amaral being able to tell us fifteen years down the line that Brueckner had been on the police radar they just didn't find him.

Imagine if he had been in the position of being able to have continued looking and perhaps finding him early days in May 2007.
Perhaps if the unanswered knock at the door had been followed through and if they still couldn't locate him but as a result knew he was missing, to where that might have progressed.  Fifteen years later, though?

This has never been about Amaral.  He was just ideally incompetent.  Just the idiot who was somehow allowed to be In Charge.  Amaral fulfilled his place to perfection.  Portugal is still in The Dark Ages.  Why else would Portugal allow Amaral to go on interfering with The Course of Justice?