Author Topic: Dog Alerts- Evidence or not?  (Read 172557 times)

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Offline barrier

Re: Dog Alerts- Evidence or not?
« Reply #285 on: January 11, 2020, 03:06:17 PM »
Martin Grime had already retired by then and was given Eddie to take with him into retirement,  to do with as he pleased.  Besides, he wasn't engaged in Illegal Practices in Portugal.

So using EVRD's in Portugal is ok but you surmise it is and wouldn't be in the UK?
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Offline Eleanor

Re: Dog Alerts- Evidence or not?
« Reply #286 on: January 11, 2020, 03:11:38 PM »
So using EVRD's in Portugal is ok but you surmise it is and wouldn't be in the UK?

This is not logical. 

The Illegal Act would have been in taking the dog to America to engage in something that is Illegal in Britain while owned by The UK Police.  They simply would not have given permission while the dog belonged to them.

What a private citizen does is a different matter.

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Re: Dog Alerts- Evidence or not?
« Reply #287 on: January 11, 2020, 03:23:41 PM »
This is not logical. 

The Illegal Act would have been in taking the dog to America to engage in something that is Illegal in Britain while owned by The UK Police.  They simply would not have given permission while the dog belonged to them.

What a private citizen does is a different matter.

Then what is the issue?
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: Dog Alerts- Evidence or not?
« Reply #288 on: January 11, 2020, 05:15:55 PM »
He called Eddie back to the first 2 cars as I've pointed out in my post. Eddie will not alert unless he finds what he is trained to find. The source of that scent was coming from inside the hire car.

Grime called eddie back three times to the car that clearly belonged to the McCanns

Offline Angelo222

Re: Dog Alerts- Evidence or not?
« Reply #289 on: January 11, 2020, 05:18:09 PM »
Not before August 2007 it doesn't.  Eddie was taken to America after The Jersey Debacle.

Or was Martin Grime in contact with and employed by The FBI while still employed by The UK Police.

If this claim was made in August 2007 then Eddie was given 'Enhanced' training in the US using human cadavers prior to both PdL and Jersey.  Thus the designation EVRD
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Offline Angelo222

Re: Dog Alerts- Evidence or not?
« Reply #290 on: January 11, 2020, 05:22:44 PM »
You don't get it do you?   Eddie wasn't trained using human cadaver he was trained using pig cadaver.  So when he searched 5a he didn't smell human cadaver or pig cadaver and that is why he trotted off out of the bedroom to be called back numerous times.   Poor Eddie I think he just had another sniff and thought 'I think I can smell blood' and barked.

How would that search happen outside where Grime wouldn't know where a cadaver was buried?   He wouldn't have been able to call Eddie back to every bush and tree to keep sniffing at them would he?

You are mistaken Lace. Eddie received specialist training in America use human cadavers prior to being deployed in PdL.

So when Eddie alerted in 5a it might well have been to a human cadaver scent.
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Offline Miss Taken Identity

Re: Dog Alerts- Evidence or not?
« Reply #291 on: January 11, 2020, 05:23:32 PM »
Which makes it obvious why Grime took Eddie to the US to train using human cadaver,one step ahead it would seem.

Or  a dead pig was placed behind a curtain, in a cupboard, in a car all belonging to the McCanns where a child disappeared.   Perhaps the previous occupants could explain this. what the hell were they doing with a dead pig- which let's face it, can't be hidden very well. I mean someone would notice surely. And of course we have to facto in the dead pig wearing soiled nappies...  Just to make THAT story stick.
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: Dog Alerts- Evidence or not?
« Reply #292 on: January 11, 2020, 05:29:24 PM »
Or  a dead pig was placed behind a curtain, in a cupboard, in a car all belonging to the McCanns where a child disappeared.   Perhaps the previous occupants could explain this. what the hell were they doing with a dead pig- which let's face it, can't be hidden very well. I mean someone would notice surely. And of course we have to facto in the dead pig wearing soiled nappies...  Just to make THAT story stick.

we saw eddie called back 3 times to the car....and according to the PJ Eddie was repeatedly called back to places he had previously ignored in the mccanns apartment. Thats the reason for the alerts imo

Offline Eleanor

Re: Dog Alerts- Evidence or not?
« Reply #293 on: January 11, 2020, 05:32:30 PM »
You are mistaken Lace. Eddie received specialist training in America use human cadavers prior to being deployed in PdL.

So when Eddie alerted in 5a it might well have been to a human cadaver scent.

So The UK Police authorised this trip and paid for it, did they?  The dog did not belong to Martin Grime until he retired.

Offline barrier

Re: Dog Alerts- Evidence or not?
« Reply #294 on: January 11, 2020, 05:34:30 PM »
So The UK Police authorised this trip and paid for it, did they? The dog did not belong to Martin Grime until he retired.


Who else did?
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Offline Eleanor

Re: Dog Alerts- Evidence or not?
« Reply #295 on: January 11, 2020, 05:42:04 PM »

Offline barrier

Re: Dog Alerts- Evidence or not?
« Reply #296 on: January 11, 2020, 05:44:34 PM »
Who else did what?

Paid and authorised Grime and his dogs.
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Offline Venturi Swirl

Re: Dog Alerts- Evidence or not?
« Reply #297 on: January 11, 2020, 05:45:52 PM »
Which makes it obvious why Grime took Eddie to the US to train using human cadaver,one step ahead it would seem.
So then you have a dog that alerts to blood and pigs and humans?
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Offline Miss Taken Identity

Re: Dog Alerts- Evidence or not?
« Reply #298 on: January 11, 2020, 05:50:35 PM »
Well, the fact is they never did find a dead pig or a human. Mind you the blood found behind the curtain wasn't from a lone pig on the loose...
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Offline Venturi Swirl

Re: Dog Alerts- Evidence or not?
« Reply #299 on: January 11, 2020, 05:51:37 PM »
Well, the fact is they never did find a dead pig or a human. Mind you the blood found behind the curtain wasn't from a lone pig on the loose...
Was it Madeleine’s?
"Surely the fact that their accounts were different reinforces their veracity rather than diminishes it? If they had colluded in protecting ........ surely all of their accounts would be the same?" - Faithlilly