Scotland Yard about to commence digs in and around Praia da Luz.

[slartibartfast]

Cheers Slarti, have ammended my spelling.

When they are little rocky coves like that, they will get unusual currents especially in rough conditions.  The seas were roughening that night.

Beaches in a holiday resort don't tend to be that bad otherwise the resorts don't prosper. Also there was a NW wind that night so the beaches were sheltered.

[Benice]

The question must be asked - why has The McCann not made it's way to the dig site?

They managed to come flying in with maximum urgency for the suspended libel trial.

One would think NOTHING would be more important than a dig which  may finally find their baby.

If nothing else, it will be a wonderful new media opportunity to further their own much vaunted "search".

Sometimes it's what you don't do that is significant.

 

So you think that after expressing their dismay at the media attention - they are going to go to PDL where they would  be followed around by reporters and photographers and therefore would be encouraging the very thing they are hoping will stop?   A fact which no doubt people like yourself would be only too eager to point out.

Damned if they do and damned if they don't.  As per usual.   

[Cariad]

So you think that after expressing their dismay at the media attention - they are going to go to PDL where they would  be followed around by reporters and photographers and therefore would be encouraging the very thing they are hoping will stop?   A fact which no doubt people like yourself would be only too eager to point out.

Damned if they do and damned if they don't.  As per usual.

Alright. To balance it out a bit, I think they did the right things staying at home with the twins, to try and keep everything as normal as possible.

I don't suppose it matters what I think though, hence not commenting on it before.

[Benice]

Alright. To balance it out a bit, I think they did the right things staying at home with the twins, to try and keep everything as normal as possible.    I don't suppose it matters what I think though, hence not commenting on it before.

I totally agree Cariad.

[Admin]

Note: Ricardo Paiva and Kate's hillside dream has its own thread here.

[sadie]

Beaches in a holiday resort don't tend to be that bad otherwise the resorts don't prosper. Also there was a NW wind that night so the beaches were sheltered.

I haven't checked the wind direction,  Where did you get that from?

Anyway, it isn't what the beach does thta matters, it lies dormant, unless moved.

It is what the seas do that affect the scouring out and movement of sand.  The seas were roughening that evening, I can remember that well from the weather charts.  If anyone disbelieves, the charts are posted on this forum somewhere and you can check.

[sadie]

   
 Sadie , for accuracy's sake, could you please stop using the word SEA in relation to the Atlantic.

Sure, sorry.

Will try and remember Ocean .... but on the scale of things it didn't seem overly important to me.

[pathfinder73]

My explanation is what really happened and connects with the rest of my theory. Now they are checking the sites I suspected. 1st move to wasteland 2nd move to close proximity to the church. 10:03 time Smithman spotted so she wasn't placed in a hole and concealed if she was before that time.

[Brietta]

At least one person here has lived close to the sea .... JOHN

Maybe several others and I am inviting them to either confirm or disprove what I have said

I live in very close proximity to a beautiful sandy beach.

There are dangerous currents offshore.

A few years ago a visiting child was drowned in an area which we as children knew as the ‘whirlpool’ and knew to avoid.

IMO there are undersea currents and undertows in all coastal areas.

[Mr Moderator]

Thanks to everyone who has sent me questions so far, it's still not too late to submit them.

Reminder

Members will be aware of the current developments in Praia da Luz, Portugal, where Scotland Yard have received permission to extend the dig sites previously identified by Gonçalo Amaral and his team.  Specialist recovery dogs and ground penetrating radar will both be used in this latest search.

As promised, we will be speaking with Martin Grime soon so if there are any general questions you would like us to put to him in relation to EVRD or CSI dogs please send me a personal message.

This is a unique opportunity so please avail of it.

MM

[Mr Gray]

Sure, sorry.

Will try and remember Ocean .... but on the scale of things it didn't seem overly important to me.

It isn't important...we talk about the sea side....swimming in the sea....there's much more important things ..definition alert..

The sea, the world ocean, or simply the ocean, is the connected body of salty water that covers over 70 percent of the Earth's surface. It moderates the Earth's climate and has important roles in the water cycle, carbon cycle, and nitrogen cycle.

[icabodcrane]

So Scotland Yard want to dig up private property behind the church ?

Is that suggestive that they are considering the cadaver dog's alerts were accurate,  and that Madeleine 's dead body was subsequently hidden  ? 

I mean the McCanns have direct connections with that church  ...  even had their own key to it

Conversely,  I can't think what connection that church might have to any  abduction theory

[Mr Gray]

Sorry if I seemed overly pedantic...just thought as we are discussing currents in this part of the world we should speak about the ocean as currents will be different..also have you seen the waves off the Algarve coast?!

   I have a feeling I am not the only one getting tetchy, I imagine with the latest developments, many of us on both sides of the abduction fence are feeling a little tense as things start to unfold.

 One thing I am sure we all agree on....we want the truth to come out about what has happened to this little girl, who we must now believe, given recent developments. to be sadly deceased.

 The truth is what matters here, not whether abduction believers or non-believers are right or wrong. We do not matter. Madeleine does.

Agree 100%

[Cariad]

Sorry if I seemed overly pedantic...just thought as we are discussing currents in this part of the world we should speak about the ocean as currents will be different..also have you seen the waves off the Algarve coast?!

   I have a feeling I am not the only one getting tetchy, I imagine with the latest developments, many of us on both sides of the abduction fence are feeling a little tense as things start to unfold.

 One thing I am sure we all agree on....we want the truth to come out about what has happened to this little girl, who we must now believe, given recent developments. to be sadly deceased.

 The truth is what matters here, not whether abduction believers or non-believers are right or wrong. We do not matter. Madeleine does.

I'll jump on board with that too.

[Mr Moderator]

Members should take care when posting since there are three live threads which potentially deal with the proposed digs in Praia da Luz.

* Latest news on the search for Madeleine McCann.

* Scotland Yard about to commence digs in and around Praia da Luz.

* Could a child really be buried so quick and never be found?


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