Author Topic: Former Portuguese detective Gonçalo Amaral wins appeal in damages trial.  (Read 535457 times)

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Offline jassi

I grasp it perfectly well.

That is what you don't grasp.

Besides Dave, when going to the ECHR, the participants are expected to go to arbitration first to try to come to an agreement, before it goes to court.

Besides Dave, do the mccanns really intend to take the state of Portugal to the ECHR's  ?

It will be interesting to see what the outcome of this eventually is.  Have they enough money for a start?
I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -

OG have been pushed out by the Germans who have reserved all the deck chairs for the foreseeable future

stephen25000

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It will be interesting to see what the outcome of this eventually is.  Have they enough money for a start?

Good question.

Also, on what legal grounds can they go to the ECHR's  ?

Offline Angelo222

It will be interesting to see what the outcome of this eventually is.  Have they enough money for a start?

I'm sure some well meaning mug will bail them out.
De troothe has the annoying habit of coming to the surface just when you least expect it!!

Je ne regrette rien!!

Offline Mr Gray

It will be interesting to see what the outcome of this eventually is.  Have they enough money for a start?

It will be very interesting
I think they have the means to raise a serious amount of money

Offline Mr Gray

I'm sure some well meaning mug will bail them out.

Yes.. One of those mugs who started out in life without a penny and became wealthy beyond most people's dreams
One of those mugs

stephen25000

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Yes.. One of those mugs who started out in life without a penny and became wealthy beyond most people's dreams
One of those mugs

You will find that 'mugs' donating to the mccanns are fewer than ever.

Offline Mr Gray

You will find that 'mugs' donating to the mccanns are fewer than ever.

Do you think there will be an increase in mugs donating to amaral

stephen25000

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Do you think there will be an increase in mugs donating to amaral

Not mugs dave, they chose the side of justice.

....and yes, if needed he will be funded.

You can be sure of that.

Offline jassi

Do you think there will be an increase in mugs donating to amaral

Will there be any need?

It was said that the legal fund already had enough to deal with any additional appeal.
« Last Edit: May 02, 2016, 05:26:21 PM by jassi »
I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -

OG have been pushed out by the Germans who have reserved all the deck chairs for the foreseeable future

Offline Mr Gray

Not mugs dave, they chose the side of justice.

....and yes, if needed he will be funded.

You can be sure of that.
And there are no mugs on the McCann side either
They also believe in justice

stephen25000

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And there are no mugs on the McCann side either
They also believe in justice

That is a matter of opinion is it not.

Offline Mr Gray

That is a matter of opinion is it not.

No it's not

Offline jassi

No it's not

You know everyone personally and can vouch for them, can you?
I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -

OG have been pushed out by the Germans who have reserved all the deck chairs for the foreseeable future

Offline G-Unit

If the McCanns did end up at the ECHR what might they achieve? Monetary awards are most often between 1,000 and 8,000 Euros. It can't overturn a decision, but it can order a retrial (please, no!) sometimes.

If the Court finds that there has been a violation, it may award you
“just satisfaction”, a sum of money in compensation for certain
forms of damage. The Court may also require the State concerned
to refund the expenses you have incurred in presenting your case.
If the Court finds that there has been no violation, you will not
have to pay any additional costs (such as those incurred by the
respondent State).

Please note:
" The Court is not empowered to overrule national decisions
or annul national laws.
" The Court is not responsible for the execution of its judgments.
As soon as it has given judgment, responsibility passes to
the Committee of Ministers3 of the Council of Europe, which
has the task of supervising execution and ensuring that any
compensation is paid.
The Court does not act as a court of appeal in relation to national
courts; it does not rehear cases, it cannot quash, vary or revise
their decisions.
" The Court will not intercede directly on your behalf with
the authority you are complaining about. In exceptional
circumstances the Court may, however, grant interim measures.
As a matter of practice it only does so where there is a serious
risk of physical harm to the applicant
http://www.echr.coe.int/Pages/home.aspx?p=applicants
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stephen25000

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If the McCanns did end up at the ECHR what might they achieve? Monetary awards are most often between 1,000 and 8,000 Euros. It can't overturn a decision, but it can order a retrial (please, no!) sometimes.

If the Court finds that there has been a violation, it may award you
“just satisfaction”, a sum of money in compensation for certain
forms of damage. The Court may also require the State concerned
to refund the expenses you have incurred in presenting your case.
If the Court finds that there has been no violation, you will not
have to pay any additional costs (such as those incurred by the
respondent State).

Please note:
" The Court is not empowered to overrule national decisions
or annul national laws.
" The Court is not responsible for the execution of its judgments.
As soon as it has given judgment, responsibility passes to
the Committee of Ministers3 of the Council of Europe, which
has the task of supervising execution and ensuring that any
compensation is paid.
The Court does not act as a court of appeal in relation to national
courts; it does not rehear cases, it cannot quash, vary or revise
their decisions.
" The Court will not intercede directly on your behalf with
the authority you are complaining about. In exceptional
circumstances the Court may, however, grant interim measures.
As a matter of practice it only does so where there is a serious
risk of physical harm to the applicant
http://www.echr.coe.int/Pages/home.aspx?p=applicants

So the question on what grounds could the mccanns appeal to that court ?