Amaral and the dogs

[Mr Gray]

Seeing as there were no remains, they were to residual scent

Who says so

[Anna]

Seeing as there were no remains, they were to residual scent

Do you have proof of this, Mercury?

[Alice Purjorick]

However, Decision 13 of the Search Policy Book also makes reference to the Ground Penetrating Radar confirmation of anomalies under the floor and ‘dog indications’

Where the dog barked, they searched.

Show us in the report where it says that "Where Eddie barked they dug/searched".
The report clearly does not say that so I guess you are making it up.

[ferryman]

Now you are being silly. Eddie barks when he has found cadaver scent. Fact.
Eddie alerted when screenng the clothes. Fact.
2 + 2 = 4

You just cannot say Eddie did not alert to the clothes unless you come  up wth a reason why he did alert, its not rocket science

Eddie barks when he has found blood.

And the evidence of cuddle-cat suggests he also barks when he wants his toy back.

We can only guess what else might prompt him to bark.

[Alice Purjorick]

Rename the "Thread Eddie and the Two Boogah Men" ?
 *&*%£

[ferryman]

Show us in the report where it says that "Where Eddie barked they dug/searched".
The report clearly does not say that so I guess you are making it up.

They certainly dug looking for bodies.

If it wasn't Eddie's alerts that prompted them to dig, what was it?

[mercury]

Do you have proof of this, Mercury?

As we know there is no proof otherwise we wouldn't be debating it to kingdom come.

I just go on two facts

Eddie does not alert unless he finds what he has been trained to find eg dead bodies,
and Grime's/Harrisons comments, eg

In relation to the dead body scent if such a scent is indicated by the EVRD and no body is located it may suggest that a body has been in the property but removed

[Anna]

As we know there is no proof otherwise we wouldn't be debating it to kingdom come.

I just go on two facts

Eddie does not alert unless he finds what he has been trained to find eg dead bodies,
and Grime's/Harrisons comments, eg

In relation to the dead body scent if such a scent is indicated by the EVRD and no body is located it may suggest that a body has been in the property but removed

So what you meant and missed out was ‘In my opinion’

[Anna]

Do you all agree with the Handler/trainer’s conclusions, ?


My professional opinion as regards to the EVRD's alert indications is that it is
suggestive that this is 'cadaver scent' contaminant.
 This does not however suggest a motive or suspect, as cross contamination could be as a result of a number of given scenarios and in any event no evidential or intelligence, reliability can be made from these alerts unless they can be confirmed with corroborating evidence.
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/MARTIN_GRIMES.htm

[mercury]

So what you meant and missed out was ‘In my opinion’

No, its not my opinion, its police officers words

[mercury]

Do you all agree with the Handler/trainer’s conclusions, ?


My professional opinion as regards to the EVRD's alert indications is that it is
suggestive that this is 'cadaver scent' contaminant.
 This does not however suggest a motive or suspect, as cross contamination could be as a result of a number of given scenarios and in any event no evidential or intelligence, reliability can be made from these alerts unless they can be confirmed with corroborating evidence.
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/MARTIN_GRIMES.htm

Yes, Grime said the alerts indicate cadaverscent contaminant.He put it simply enugh, personally I dont  see why anyone has a problem with that.

[Anna]

Seeing as there were no remains, they were to residual scent

And you have cite that states this as a fact?
I haven't seen that, so sorry if I missed it.

[mercury]

And you have cite that states this as a fact?
I haven't seen that, so sorry if I missed it.

I already replied  to this, someone saw fit for some reason to delete my reply as well as at least one other so cant help you there, if my posts are culled its not my problem but the mods one

[pathfinder73]

And you have cite that states this as a fact?
I haven't seen that, so sorry if I missed it.

You don't need a body to confirm his alerts because it may not exist now. The perps would love that - search forever you ain't gonna find FA! There are many like Adrian Prout who lie and lie and lie to try and prove their innocence but Truth never lies. The proven dog, Eddie, in that case (and many others) alerted to death scent whatever anyone else claims. You either lie or you don't and spend the rest of your life in jail. So perps lie! Uncover the lies and you discover the truth.

[mercury]

But PF Eddie could have been alerting to sausages and nappies and sticky plasters or socks with blood on planted  by the PJ and then remved inmediately before Eddie was sent in