The Leonor Cipriano case reviewed... AGAIN!

[Mr Gray]

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Here's a reply to you davel.
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"In March, the Court of Appeal of Evora confirmed an earlier ruling that Leonor Cipriano had been tortured while in police custody in 2004"

'Yes March 2012!

But now superseded in March 2013, by the fact that her testimony has been proved to be a complete falsehood.

So why do they not feel the need to come to the aid of officers prosecuted on a lie!

As to the conviction for perjury they know it can't be overturned due to the fact it was based on their statements not being forensically tested. They can not go back in time to do that, therefore despite the unfairness of it, the conviction will always stand. Unless sometime on the future, the Portuguese judiciary changes the way it views evidence. '

You posted that the 2012 judgement had been super ceded..I will ask the same question again.    Do you really believe that...

[stephen25000]

You posted that the 2012 judgement had been super ceded..I will ask the same question again.    Do you really believe that...

What happened in 2013 ?

She was proven to be a LIAR.

[Mr Gray]

What happened in 2013 ?

She was proven to be a LIAR.

Are you just pretending you don't understand the question..has the 2012 judgement been overturned

[stephen25000]

Are you just pretending you don't understand the question..has the 2012 judgement been overturned

No davel.

Read my first post tonight again.

READ IT.

CIPRIANO IS A CONVICTED LIAR.

CLEARLY YOU BELIEVE A LIAR.

[Mr Gray]

No davel.

Read my first post tonight again.

READ IT.

CIPRIANO IS A CONVICTED LIAR.

CLEARLY YOU BELIEVE A LIAR.

Is something wrong with you ..all these capitals..you are making a bit of a fool of yourself

OK. The 2012 judgement has been overturned and both amaral and Leonor have convictions for lying

[stephen25000]

Is something wrong with you ..all these capitals..you are making a bit of a fool of yourself

OK. The 2012 judgement has been overturned and both amaral and Leonor have convictions for lying

So the bottom line remains.

You support CIPRIANO, a convicted liar and murderer.

 >@@(*&)

[Admin]

So are we saying they all LIED? 

[Mr Gray]

So the bottom line remains.

You support CIPRIANO, a convicted liar and murderer.

 >@@(*&)

No.  You need to concentrate.  The 2012 judgement has not been overturned...that is a fact

[Mr Gray]

So are we saying they all LIED? 

I'm not. I am saying they both have a conviction for lying

[Redblossom]

I'm not. I am saying they both have a conviction for lying

Err, chalk and bleeding cheese though.....a policeman signing off statements and a convicted murderess changing her story umpteen times, purleeese.....

[Mr Gray]

Err, chalk and bleeding cheese though.....a policeman signing off statements and a convicted murderess changing her story umpteen times, purleeese.....

A policeman covering up torture

[stephen25000]

No.  You need to concentrate.  The 2012 judgement has not been overturned...that is a fact

Read my original post davel, CAREFULLY.

I SAID SUPERSEDED, NOT REVOKED.

[Mr Gray]

Read my original post davel, CAREFULLY.

I SAID SUPERSEDED, NOT REVOKED.

Where has the word revoked come from...it hasn't been superseded either...you are still wrong

[stephen25000]

Where has the word revoked come from...it hasn't been superseded either...you are still wrong

Keep trying.

Overturned is the equivalent of revoked.

Now do you support a CONVICTED MURDER AND LIAR.

A SIMPLE YES OR NO WILL SUFFICE.

[Redblossom]

A policeman covering up torture

You dont know that and have no evidence to support that.....he signed off a report about  her getting injuries after attempting to throw herself off the stairs.......thats all we know...he wasnt there...he trusted his officers... If yu know more do tell...everyone would like to know what happened, doesnt help if yu just make stuff up or dont back up any claims, ta