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Disappeared and Abducted Children and Young Adults => Madeleine McCann (3) disappeared from her parent's holiday apartment at Ocean Club, Praia da Luz, Portugal on 3 May 2007. No trace of her has ever been found. => Topic started by: Holly Goodhead on July 22, 2019, 10:52:16 AM
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I am not remotely interested in organised religion of any description however I did read the following article in The Times a couple of weeks ago which resonated with our online community here. I will quote the article verbatim:
The Church of England is to issue its first set of digital commandments to combat "cynicism and abuse" on social media.
They will be outlined today by the Archbishop of Canterbury, Justin Welby, in a live video message from Facebook's British headquarters.
The church has drawn up a "digital charter" reflecting five Christian values that it will push to see honoured online and ten "community guidelines", aimed at all internet users. People will be asked to post a link on social media to say that they pledge to abide by them.
"One of [social media's] many joys is that it is immediate, interactive, conversational and open-ended," the guidance says. "This opportunity comes with downsides if users do not apply the same common sense, kindness and sound judgement which we would use in a face-to-face encounter."
Among the commandments are:
- Speak to others online as you would speak to them in person and treat them as you would want them to treat you.
- Remember that your posts can remain online for ever and you can be held accountable for them.
- Be aware of child safety when posting online.
- Give credit if citing or sharing others' work.
The church said that the rules were "a resource for Christians, people of other faiths and people of no faith". The archbishop said "Sociaal media has transformed the way we live our lives...Each time we interact online we have the opportunity either to add to currents of cynicism or abuse or to choose instead to share light and grace". The Archbishop of York, Dr John Sentamu said: "We are saying that the church wishes to be present in the digital sphere and be the same force for social cohesion which it strives to be in the real world."
Archbishop Welby will take part today in a live Q&A with Nicola Mendelshon the head of Facebook in Europe and the Middle East.
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I am not remotely interested in organised religion of any description however I did read the following article in The Times a couple of weeks ago which resonated with our online community here. I will quote the article verbatim:
The Church of England is to issue its first set of digital commandments to combat "cynicism and abuse" on social media.
They will be outlined today by the Archbishop of Canterbury, Justin Welby, in a live video message from Facebook's British headquarters.
The church has drawn up a "digital charter" reflecting five Christian values that it will push to see honoured online and ten "community guidelines", aimed at all internet users. People will be asked to post a link on social media to say that they pledge to abide by them.
"One of [social media's] many joys is that it is immediate, interactive, conversational and open-ended," the guidance says. "This opportunity comes with downsides if users do not apply the same common sense, kindness and sound judgement which we would use in a face-to-face encounter."
Among the commandments are:
- Speak to others online as you would speak to them in person and treat them as you would want them to treat you.
- Remember that your posts can remain online for ever and you can be held accountable for them.
- Be aware of child safety when posting online.
- Give credit if citing or sharing others' work.
The church said that the rules were "a resource for Christians, people of other faiths and people of no faith". The archbishop said "Sociaal media has transformed the way we live our lives...Each time we interact online we have the opportunity either to add to currents of cynicism or abuse or to choose instead to share light and grace". The Archbishop of York, Dr John Sentamu said: "We are saying that the church wishes to be present in the digital sphere and be the same force for social cohesion which it strives to be in the real world."
Archbishop Welby will take part today in a live Q&A with Nicola Mendelshon the head of Facebook in Europe and the Middle East.
I think on this occasion the church talks a lot of sense
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This Forum has rules which should ensure good behaviour but some people still seem unable to treat others with respect. By their points shall ye know them.
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I think on this occasion the church talks a lot of sense
They should also declare it is a sin to post on forums while inebriated.
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I am not remotely interested in organised religion of any description however I did read the following article in The Times a couple of weeks ago which resonated with our online community here. I will quote the article verbatim:
The Church of England is to issue its first set of digital commandments to combat "cynicism and abuse" on social media.
They will be outlined today by the Archbishop of Canterbury, Justin Welby, in a live video message from Facebook's British headquarters.
The church has drawn up a "digital charter" reflecting five Christian values that it will push to see honoured online and ten "community guidelines", aimed at all internet users. People will be asked to post a link on social media to say that they pledge to abide by them.
"One of [social media's] many joys is that it is immediate, interactive, conversational and open-ended," the guidance says. "This opportunity comes with downsides if users do not apply the same common sense, kindness and sound judgement which we would use in a face-to-face encounter."
Among the commandments are:
- Speak to others online as you would speak to them in person and treat them as you would want them to treat you.
- Remember that your posts can remain online for ever and you can be held accountable for them.
- Be aware of child safety when posting online.
- Give credit if citing or sharing others' work.
The church said that the rules were "a resource for Christians, people of other faiths and people of no faith". The archbishop said "Sociaal media has transformed the way we live our lives...Each time we interact online we have the opportunity either to add to currents of cynicism or abuse or to choose instead to share light and grace". The Archbishop of York, Dr John Sentamu said: "We are saying that the church wishes to be present in the digital sphere and be the same force for social cohesion which it strives to be in the real world."
Archbishop Welby will take part today in a live Q&A with Nicola Mendelshon the head of Facebook in Europe and the Middle East.
No burning bush messages from God on samsUng/apple tablets?
I liked the last one:Give credit if citing or sharing others' work. Are they claiming it was the Church of England who thought these safety measure up or perhaps it was an IT professional body who has been saying this for years as online etiquette, or corporate governance policies in place for years?
To the church onwards and upwards!!
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No burning bush messages from God on samsUng/apple tablets?
I liked the last one:Give credit if citing or sharing others' work. Are they claiming it was the Church of England who thought these safety measure up or perhaps it was an IT professional body who has been saying this for years as online etiquette, or corporate governance policies in place for years?
To the church onwards and upwards!!
It is a matter of getting people t comply. Tie it in with spending eternity either in Heaven or Hell for a typo on social media, Thy will be done.
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No burning bush messages from God on samsUng/apple tablets?
I liked the last one:Give credit if citing or sharing others' work. Are they claiming it was the Church of England who thought these safety measure up or perhaps it was an IT professional body who has been saying this for years as online etiquette, or corporate governance policies in place for years?
To the church onwards and upwards!!
No doubt the church has an army of advisers and consultants internally and externally.
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I've edited a few posts this morning.
I need to make it clear going forward I expect everyone to take on board the above. Anyone who repeatedly makes personal comments that I consider likely to disrupt the smooth running of the forum will start to earn points with the potential for a permanent ban.
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I've edited a few posts this morning.
I need to make it clear going forward I expect everyone to take on board the above. Anyone who repeatedly makes personal comments that I consider likely to disrupt the smooth running of the forum will start to earn points with the potential for a permanent ban.
Glad to hear that. I am praying it will be applied across the forum.
I know a healthy debate - it is ok to challenge the post written by the poster- not the poster. I will continue on that vain. I do not care If I get a ban for that. ^*&&
The church can make no such claim- it was a professional body (USA)who wrote IT etiquette when the web was in it's infancy- not the church of England! This forum has been running longer than the Archbishops claims and the rules are very clear!
BTW this has nothing to do with MBM and her disappearance.
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I've edited a few posts this morning.
I need to make it clear going forward I expect everyone to take on board the above. Anyone who repeatedly makes personal comments that I consider likely to disrupt the smooth running of the forum will start to earn points with the potential for a permanent ban.
Has anyone ever had a permanent ban in the history of this forum?
Several people who have been banned seem to turn up again after a while, like a bad penny.
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Glad to hear that. I am praying it will be applied across the forum.
I know a healthy debate - it is ok to challenge the post written by the poster- not the poster. I will continue on that vain. I do not care If I get a ban for that. ^*&&
The church can make no such claim- it was a professional body (USA)who wrote IT etiquette when the web was in it's infancy- not the church of England! This forum has been running longer than the Archbishops claims and the rules are very clear!
BTW this has nothing to do with MBM and her disappearance.
Yes it will be applied across the forum.
The above just sets out what to most will be a common sense approach to online communication.
This thread was started to communicate and manage interpersonal communications regarding this particular board which is currently the most active by member and post count.
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They should also declare it is a sin to post on forums while inebriated.
I think the church has enough stupid rules without bring in another one
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I've edited a few posts this morning.
I need to make it clear going forward I expect everyone to take on board the above. Anyone who repeatedly makes personal comments that I consider likely to disrupt the smooth running of the forum will start to earn points with the potential for a permanent ban.
Interesting...I'm at work at the moment..yet a mod has accused me of being drunk several times...mods should lead by example
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Has anyone ever had a permanent ban in the history of this forum?
Yes and to the best of my knowledge I do not believe the individuals concerned have returned.
Several people who have been banned seem to turn up again after a while, like a bad penny.
A ban is obviously a last resort but a necessary tool for managing a forum. If such action is taken then we will endeavor to maintain the ban if appropriate.
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Interesting...I'm at work at the moment..yet a mod has accused me of being drunk several times...mods should lead by example
There is the 13th Commandment: "Thou shalt not make false claims against other forum members."
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I think the church has enough stupid rules without bring in another one
I agree. The Church might be better occupied in promoting the original Ten Commandments. These appear to encompass a lot of what happens on this Forum.
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Interesting...I'm at work at the moment..yet a mod has accused me of being drunk several times...mods should lead by example
Posts will be managed and decided upon by content only not whether or not someone is intoxicated which mods would have no idea about.
If you have any complaints about any particular mod, mods in general or the general way in which the forum is managed then I suggest you pm John directly who no doubt consider your feedback and in return feedback to the mods where appropriate.
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There is the 13th Commandment: "Thou shalt not make false claims against other forum members."
Like calling members liars...a post of yours directed at me which John removed
Why don't you simply stop the sniping ...I'm happy to post within the rules but have faced continual abuse...let's start afresh
Let's stop the insults ...let's see what happens
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Posts will be managed and decided upon by content only not whether or not someone is intoxicated which mods would have no idea about.
If you have any complaints about any particular mod, mods in general or the general way in which the forum is managed then I suggest you pm John directly who no doubt consider your feedback and in return feedback to the mods where appropriate.
I've contacted John several times and he'd always been fair..
I don't think it's fair to continually bother him
If we could all act like adults and stop the sniping...there some on this thread already....things would be much better
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As I said in the OP I'm not remotely religious but imo it sets out a common sense approach to online communicating which we all need to take on board.
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Like calling members liars...a post of yours directed at me which John removed
Why don't you simply stop the sniping ...I'm happy to post within the rules but have faced continual abuse...let's start afresh
Let's stop the insults ...let's see what happens
I forgive those that trespass against me everyday. So go to the Zapata thread and answer my questions.
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I've contacted John several times and he'd always been fair..
I don't think it's fair to continually bother him
If we could all act like adults and stop the sniping...there some on this thread already....things would be much better
I couldn't agree more. We are all adults and a lot of what I see here I do not believe would go on in face-to-face communication.
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I forgive those that trespass against me everyday. So go to the Zapata thread and answer my questions.
More sniping rob
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More sniping rob
If that is sniping I'm damned.
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I couldn't agree more. We are all adults and a lot of what I see here I do not believe would go on in face-to-face communication.
I've tried this before..
Let's move forward...no insults ..no sniping
Let's see what happens
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I've tried this before..
Let's move forward...no insults ..no sniping
Let's see what happens
Holly - would you define sniping please?
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Holly - would you define sniping please?
Are you offering Holly a poison chalice to drink from?
I have caught up on the overnight posts now. There are multiple instances of sniping in there, most emanating from a poster well-renowned for sniping.
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If that is sniping I'm damned.
Have a care Rob. You could well be.
Just as a matter of interest, do any other Moderators actually read The Reports. You could all be better informed if you do.
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I agree. The Church might be better occupied in promoting the original Ten Commandments. These appear to encompass a lot of what happens on this Forum.
lol The churches, as a religious political bodies, have been breaking the commandments since the 1300's and before!
They are not the go to people for advice about morality!
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I've tried this before..
Let's move forward...no insults ..no sniping
Let's see what happens
And while we are on the subject, could Members please not reply to Goading and Insulting Posts.
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Are you offering Holly a poison chalice to drink from?
I have caught up on the overnight posts now. There are multiple instances of sniping in there, most emanating from a poster well-renowned for sniping.
Another sniping post
I suggest we move forward...that's the intelligent thing to do
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Have a care Rob. You could well be.
Just as a matter of interest, do any other Moderators actually read The Reports. You could all be better informed if you do.
Are they the one's you get sent to us via email? More often than not there is nothing to see.
Are you offering Holly a poison chalice to drink from?
I have caught up on the overnight posts now. There are multiple instances of sniping in there, most emanating from a poster well-renowned for sniping.
Maybe but who has defined sniping? What you think is sniping is it the same as Davel?
What is accusing? Is asking someone if they have been drinking an accusation?
To me an accusation would be saying "You have been drinking". Not "Have you been drinking?"
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Have a care Rob. You could well be.
Just as a matter of interest, do any other Moderators actually read The Reports. You could all be better informed if you do.
Would you care to define sniping then Eleanor?
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Are they the one's you get sent to us via email? More often than not there is nothing to see.
Maybe but who has defined sniping? What you think is sniping is it the same as Davel?
What is accusing? Is asking someone if they have been drinking an accusation?
To me an accusation would be saying "You have been drinking". Not "Have you been drinking?"
You have to click on the Second Link Rob. It shows the Reported Post. If you click on the First Link it takes you to the correct part of the Thread and shows whether or not the comment has been deleted or modified.
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Would you care to define sniping then Eleanor?
Even "Hmm" is Sniping. And so is asking a poster if they have been drinking.
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Are they the one's you get sent to us via email? More often than not there is nothing to see.
Maybe but who has defined sniping? What you think is sniping is it the same as Davel?
What is accusing? Is asking someone if they have been drinking an accusation?
To me an accusation would be saying "You have been drinking". Not "Have you been drinking?"
That's one example that came to mind from the overnight pile. Asking a simple question but having it thrown back at you as an accusation. Classic sniping tactics. Deployed on several occasions.
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Anyone else who asked a Poster if they have been drinking will have the comment Deleted in Full.
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Even "Hmm" is Sniping. And so is asking a poster if they have been drinking.
In the context in which the question was asked, it made perfect sense and breached no forum rules.
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Even "Hmm" is Sniping. And so is asking a poster if they have been drinking.
Look, if a post is totally nonsense it might be a very relevant question.
Anyone else who asked a Poster if they have been drinking will have the comment Deleted in Full.
If that is the ruling, all comments that questions the intellect of another poster should be deleted too then.
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In the context in which the question was asked, it made perfect sense and breached no forum rules.
I choose to disagree.
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Look, if a post is totally nonsense it might be a very relevant question.
If that is the ruling, all comments that questions the intellect of another poster should be deleted too then.
Absolutely.
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Even "Hmm" is Sniping. And so is asking a poster if they have been drinking.
I disagree with the Hmm being a snipe that is only your interpretation of a post. I use it a s a thinking like "Hmm I don't thnk so" if I disagree with a post.
Or Hmm I wonder...
Asking a poster if they have been drinking or on drugs on in therapy in reply to a post is goading and sniping. AND Unworthy of a reply.
I would also say that there are posters who twist words deliberatly,and make personal jibes\comments to discredit the person without challenging the post backed by different evidence.
That should be stopped hence forth!
I feel if I find a post to be a fantasy without evidence, I am challenging the contents of the post- not attacking the poster!
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I disagree with the Hmm being a snipe that is only your interpretation of a post. I use it a s a thinking like "Hmm I don't thnk so" if I disagree with a post.
Or Hmm I wonder...
Asking a poster if they have been drinking or on drugs on in therapy in reply to a post is goading and sniping. AND Unworthy of a reply.
I would also say that there are posters who twist words deliberatly,and make personal jibes\comments to discredit the person without challenging the post backed by different evidence.
That should be stopped hence forth!
I feel if I find a post to be a fantasy without evidence, I am challenging the contents of the post- not attacking the poster!
Just another cop out as far as I can see. I do delete all Hmms when I see them.
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I disagree with the Hmm being a snipe that is only your interpretation of a post. I use it a s a thinking like "Hmm I don't thnk so" if I disagree with a post.
Or Hmm I wonder...
Asking a poster if they have been drinking or on drugs on in therapy in reply to a post is goading and sniping. AND Unworthy of a reply.
I would also say that there are posters who twist words deliberatly,and make personal jibes\comments to discredit the person without challenging the post backed by different evidence.
That should be stopped hence forth!
I feel if I find a post to be a fantasy without evidence, I am challenging the contents of the post- not attacking the poster!
Agreed.
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I disagree with the Hmm being a snipe that is only your interpretation of a post. I use it a s a thinking like "Hmm I don't thnk so" if I disagree with a post.
Or Hmm I wonder...
Asking a poster if they have been drinking or on drugs on in therapy in reply to a post is goading and sniping. AND Unworthy of a reply.
I would also say that there are posters who twist words deliberatly,and make personal jibes\comments to discredit the person without challenging the post backed by different evidence.
That should be stopped hence forth!
I feel if I find a post to be a fantasy without evidence, I am challenging the contents of the post- not attacking the poster!
Well what about those emoticons %77* Doesn't that one suggest the post being replied to was silly?
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Look, if a post is totally nonsense it might be a very relevant question.
If that is the ruling, all comments that questions the intellect of another poster should be deleted too then.
Do you remember your post to me yesterday. As I recall..
"Are you thick"...........is it still there
We will trying to get nowhere trying to prove a point...you may be as guilty as anyone else..
I have suggested simply that everyone stops...do you agree
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Just another cop out as far as I can see. I do delete all Hmms when I see them.
Do you?
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Well what about those emoticons %77* Doesn't that one suggest the post being replied to was silly?
Or that the original poster has at least one screw loose. @)(++(*
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Do you remember your post to me yesterday. As I recall..
"Are you thick"...........is it still there
We will trying to get nowhere trying to prove a point...you may be as guilty as anyone else..
I have suggested simply that everyone stops...do you agree
Have you never questioned my intelligence? Or questioned anyone else's intelligence?
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I regularly wonder about certain people's sanity - though I never mention it in open forum
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I regularly wonder about people's sanity - though I never mention it in open forum
That must be a sin as well.
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Have you never questioned my intelligence? Or questioned anyone else's intelligence?
If you are going to argue about the past there is no path forward..
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I regularly wonder about certain people's sanity - though I never mention it in open forum
I have opinions about personality disorders and types...but like you I don't mention in posts
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I've made a suggestion but it seems posters simply want to argue..
I'm drawing a line now...let's see who is first to cross it
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Just another cop out as far as I can see. I do delete all Hmms when I see them.
you delete the posts or just the Hmmms?
Have you not missed a lot of trolling and goading and name calling or is it just the Hmm you will moderate?
Just asking for future. I will check with John as this is more of a freedom of speech used in a post issue, rather than goading and sniping. IMO
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I have opinions about personality disorders and types...but like you I don't mention in posts
*%87
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You see only my post...not the one it was made in response to...
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You see only my post...not the one it was made in response to...
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It's a matter of opinion
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It's a matter of opinion
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That is taking it too far!
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Do you?
Yep. We all know what they mean.
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That must be a sin as well.
It's The Sin of Pride. The worst Sin of all.
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It's The Sin of Pride. The worst Sin of all.
I'm alright then.
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Yep. We all know what they mean.
No, you don't you only suppose. Different thing altogether.
Pride is the worst sin? Doesn't seem to get a mention from the main man hiself.
The Ten Commandments
You shall have no other Gods but me.
You shall not make for yourself any idol, nor bow down to it or worship it.
You shall not misuse the name of the Lord your God.
You shall remember and keep the Sabbath day holy.
Respect your father and mother.
You must not commit murder.
You must not commit adultery.
You must not steal.
You must not give false evidence against your neighbour.
You must not be envious of your neighbour's goods. You shall not be envious of his house nor his wife, nor anything that belongs to your neighbour.
Sins are a male invention to scare people into giving them money and power over them. Therfore, I do not sin 8**8:/:
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No, you don't you only suppose. Different thing altogether.
Pride is the worst sin? Doesn't seem to get a mention from the main man hiself.
The Ten Commandments
You shall have no other Gods but me.
You shall not make for yourself any idol, nor bow down to it or worship it.
You shall not misuse the name of the Lord your God.
You shall remember and keep the Sabbath day holy.
Respect your father and mother.
You must not commit murder.
You must not commit adultery.
You must not steal.
You must not give false evidence against your neighbour.
You must not be envious of your neighbour's goods. You shall not be envious of his house nor his wife, nor anything that belongs to your neighbour.
Sins are a male invention to scare people into giving them money and power over them. Therfore, I do not sin 8**8:/:
Pride is the worst sin...no it isn't...I'm sure we all have things we are justly proud of
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I've edited a few posts this morning.
I need to make it clear going forward I expect everyone to take on board the above. Anyone who repeatedly makes personal comments that I consider likely to disrupt the smooth running of the forum will start to earn points with the potential for a permanent ban.
I notice my reply to a particular horrible personal attack on me has been edited by Eleanor, the attacks are in place so why not just admit you censor at will and it is biased!
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Have a care Rob. You could well be.
Just as a matter of interest, do any other Moderators actually read The Reports. You could all be better informed if you do.
Yes, fascinating stuff.
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Yes, fascinating stuff.
I would hardly call it fascinating, but at least one knows what is going on. So I am glad to hear that you do.
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Yes, fascinating stuff.
Is that a genuine post or sarcasm directed at Eleanor
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Is that a genuine post or sarcasm directed at Eleanor
As you are not party to the reports it isn’t really any of your concern.
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I have sent a personal message of apology to Miss Taken Identity if I had misinterpreted her comments.
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As you are not party to the reports it isn’t really any of your concern.
I think I'm allowed to decide what is or isn't my concern
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I have sent a personal message of apology to Miss Taken Identity if I had misinterpreted her comments.
I accepted the apology.
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Thank you, MTI.🤝
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*%87
That, Rob, is the most offensive 'smiley' on the forum. It should not be available for use imo.
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That, Rob, is the most offensive 'smiley' on the forum. It should not be available for use imo.
Well why is that. If there was one showing a "smiley" vomiting that would upset me.
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Well why is that. If there was one showing a "smiley" vomiting that would upset me.
*%87 intimates that the recipient is loony. It is really offensive.
Vomiting isn't nice either
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*%87 intimates that the recipient is loony. It is really offensive.
Vomiting isn't nice either
Well I tend not to use them at all. But if you are not allowed to say it in words say it in emoticons.
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How about disabling the emoticons. They are nearly always used to goad IMO, particularly the following
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@)(++(*
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*%87 %77*
&%%6
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How about disabling the emoticons. They are nearly always used to goad IMO, particularly the following
8)-)))
@)(++(*
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*%87 %77*
&%%6
I think they may be useful for those who find it difficult to express themselves in words
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I think they may be useful for those who find it difficult to express themselves in words
I sometimes have difficulty in saying precisely what I mean. But I have never resorted to Emoticoms. I see a lot of them as a way in which to be insulting.
I shall have to look at them more closely in future.
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I sometimes have difficulty in saying precisely what I mean. But I have never resorted to Emoticoms. I see a lot of them as a way in which to be insulting.
I shall have to look at them more closely in future.
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Any more window licking and watch out. This one. &^^&* A definite No No.
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Any more window licking and watch out. This one. &^^&* A definite No No.
Window licking - what does that mean?
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Window licking - what does that mean?
I have no idea Rob, but it looks decidedly disgusting to me.
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I have no idea Rob, but it looks decidedly disgusting to me.
Food bank - do they give you French wine as well to go with your food?
2:00 AM here - time for bed.
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Food bank - do they give you French wine as well to go with your food?
2:00 AM here - time for bed.
I've had a food delivery, but being an affluent pensioner living in the UK I had to pay for it lol.
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I've had a food delivery, but being an affluent pensioner living in the UK I had to pay for it lol.
I've never thought of Tesco as a food bank before 8)--))
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Food bank - do they give you French wine as well to go with your food?
2:00 AM here - time for bed.
No, no wine Rob. But the food is excellent, and better quality than I could afford to buy on my Basic State Pension.
Some ijiot on The Daily Mail said that The Pound has recovered after the election of Boris as PM. Not against The Euro it hasn't. The Euro is doing fine.
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I've never thought of Tesco as a food bank before 8)--))
Some of The Food Bank stuff is sell by date from local supermarkets, although we haven't got a Tescos.
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How about disabling the emoticons. They are nearly always used to goad IMO, particularly the following
8)-)))
@)(++(*
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*%87 %77*
&%%6
Like you have never used any of them? your favourite is: @)(++(* in response to someone posts. so you admit to goading- Good
Ans Sadie loves: *%87 and *%6^ %77* uses them ALLA the time.
BTW *%87 is not inferring someone is a' loony 'it is to show someone is confused with what is being has been said! scratching ones head in disbelief. Looks like you have been miss using it Sadie... 8(0(*
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I have just deleted a couple of letters from a word in a post namely 'sh' which has transformed the word into 'it'.
Please refrain from using foul language and under no circumstances use in a post as a form of aggression when posting with another whose post you disagree with.
I've noticed the post content of one or two here is quite aggressive; please tone it down.