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Title: Britain is ruined!
Post by: Tim Invictus on September 18, 2014, 11:47:54 AM
Police are looking for Latvian Arnis Zalkalns in connection with the disappearance of a lovely 14 year old girl named Alice Gross!

This Latvian s..mbag is already being investigated for an indecent assault against a 14 year old girl in west London. Unbelievably this man is a CONVICTED MURDERER having served time FOR MURDER in Latvia!

This is proof positive that any s..mbag from anywhere in Europe (probably the rest of the world too) no matter what their criminal history can live in and live off of the UK with impunity! THE UK DOESN'T EVEN STOP CONVICTED MURDERERS LIVING IN OUR COUNTRY!

To get my residency in Luxembourg I had to jump through hoops including proving I have no criminal record of any kind and agreeing I couldn't claim any money of the state for any reason and prove that I had private medical insurance! In the UK it doesn't even matter if you're a fycking convicted murderer, peadophile or any other degenerate lowlife!

This is a disgrace beyond words and, along with the radical muslim hordes that have infested the country, spells the ruination of the once great Great Britain!

 

Title: Re: Britain is ruined!
Post by: Mr Moderator on September 18, 2014, 01:57:57 PM
Police are looking for Latvian Arnis Zalkalns in connection with the disappearance of a lovely 14 year old girl named Alice Gross!

This Latvian s..mbag is already being investigated for an indecent assault against a 14 year old girl in west London. Unbelievably this man is a CONVICTED MURDERER having served time FOR MURDER in Latvia!

This is proof positive that any s..mbag from anywhere in Europe (probably the rest of the world too) no matter what their criminal history can live in and live off of the UK with impunity! THE UK DOESN'T EVEN STOP CONVICTED MURDERERS LIVING IN OUR COUNTRY!

To get my residency in Luxembourg I had to jump through hoops including proving I have no criminal record of any kind and agreeing I couldn't claim any money of the state for any reason and prove that I had private medical insurance! In the UK it doesn't even matter if you're a fycking convicted murderer, peadophile or any other degenerate lowlife!

This is a disgrace beyond words and, along with the radical muslim hordes that have infested the country, spells the ruination of the once great Great Britain!

Decades of leadership by spineless politicians and an almost indifferent approach to immigration has left us where we are today.  Many areas in our once great cities are effectively no go areas for white British people, a situation which should never have been allowed to happen.

Any foreigner with a conviction for murder should not be allowed into the UK in any circumstances and anyone found to be here with such a conviction should be deported on detection.
Title: Re: Britain is ruined!
Post by: Eleanor on September 18, 2014, 02:39:27 PM

I deliberately and consciously dropped the "Great" twenty years ago when I left.  I shall henceforth be known as English, although not particularly proud of that.  Just an accident of birth.

But having left, I now don't feel that I have a right to say what should happen with immigrants.  I shall leave Westminster to decide about that.  And ultimately, the common people.
Title: Re: Britain is ruined!
Post by: Holly Goodhead on September 18, 2014, 02:51:10 PM
We hear from the 'great and the good' that immigrants are needed to boost the economy but I haven't actually seen any data supporting this argument.  Admittedly I haven't really looked for any or attempted to carry out my own research either.  In any event it would surely be enormously difficult to quantify any positives eg incr in GDP with any negatives eg strain on infrastructure (without further investment).  And whether or not the immigrants can blend into British society without causing social problems - which seem to range from Islamic extremists carrying out/planning terrorist atrocities to the various nationalities refusing to learn English, thus requiring Government depts. to produce an array of info/notices in an ever increasing number of languages.

Perhaps if British people were paid a living wage as opposed to a minimum wage this would boost the economy,  encourage the work shy, reduce the benefits bill, lower taxes and bring about less social inequality.  Perhaps I'm living in la la land?!



Title: Re: Britain is ruined!
Post by: Eleanor on September 19, 2014, 02:27:29 AM

Copied from Andrea

This is OT, sorry!
A Latvian is a suspect in the case of Alice Gross who went missing on 3rd September. He had served 7 years for murder in Latvia.
He was arrested here for assault on z young girl but the case against him was dropped.

Nice to know we let people like him come and live among us. Don't we have enough murders committed by our own citizens without foreign ones too. Australia have just carried out the biggest terror raid in their history. 15 people arrested, they were planning public beheadings in Australia. How long before we see IS supporters behead someone here?

Is it just myself who fears for my family's future?
Title: Re: Britain is ruined!
Post by: Eleanor on September 19, 2014, 02:32:56 AM

Copied from HollyGoodhead.

Quote from: Andrea on September 18, 2014, 10:27:05 AM
This is OT, sorry!
A Latvian is a suspect in the case of Alice Gross who went missing on 3rd September. He had served 7 years for murder in Latvia.
He was arrested here for assault on z young girl but the case against him was dropped.

Nice to know we let people like him come and live among us. Don't we have enough murders committed by our own citizens without foreign ones too. Australia have just carried out the biggest terror raid in their history. 15 people arrested, they were planning public beheadings in Australia. How long before we see IS supporters behead someone here?

Is it just myself who fears for my family's future?

Thanks for highlighting these cases Andrea.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/11103663/Alice-Gross-Latvian-builder-suspect-is-a-convicted-murderer.html

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/australiaandthepacific/australia/11103346/Australia-foils-Islamic-State-terror-plot-to-commit-Lee-Rigby-style-murders.html

Perhaps we should have a separate thread re the UK's immigration policy?

The threat from Islamic extremists at home and elsewhere imo has the potential to escalate.  Perhaps this religious ideology should be treated as dangerous as past political ideologies eg Nazism/fascism?

 
Title: Re: Britain is ruined!
Post by: Alfred R Jones on September 23, 2014, 07:17:24 PM
It is quite absurd to use this case to attack immigration.  Most immigrants are not criminals / murderers.  Many contribute greatly to their communities, to the economy, to society generally.  Whilst I agree that more should be done to ensure that convicted criminals are not allowed to set foot in the country, please don't use this case for political ranting.   
Title: Re: Britain is ruined!
Post by: Tim Invictus on September 23, 2014, 08:50:38 PM
It is quite absurd to use this case to attack immigration.  Most immigrants are not criminals / murderers.  Many contribute greatly to their communities, to the economy, to society generally.  Whilst I agree that more should be done to ensure that convicted criminals are not allowed to set foot in the country, please don't use this case for political ranting.

So you think it's ok convicted murderers are allowed into the country do you? To murder again! I suppose you have no problem with the literally 100's of Pakistani child grooming gangs specifically targetting underage whitr British girls? You ok with honour killings, female genital mutilation, acid attacks, muslim no go areas, school radicalisation, etc. etc?

Never mind the murder of Lee Rigby, the 7/7 bombings, dozens of foiled terrorist plots, illict drug epidemic, muggings, gun crime, prison overcrowding and violence, NHS at breaking point, housing crisis ..... shall I go on?

Personally I think our soldiers in the world wars wouldn't have bothered if they could see what has happened to their country in the last couple of generations! It's a disgrace!
Title: Re: Britain is ruined!
Post by: Eleanor on September 23, 2014, 09:04:48 PM
So you think it's ok convicted murderers are allowed into the country do you? To murder again! I suppose you have no problem with the literally 100's of Pakistani child grooming gangs specifically targetting underage whitr British girls? You ok with honour killings, female genital mutilation, acid attacks, muslim no go areas, school radicalisation, etc. etc?

Never mind the murder of Lee Rigby, the 7/7 bombings, dozens of foiled terrorist plots, illict drug epidemic, muggings, gun crime, prison overcrowding and violence, NHS at breaking point, housing crisis ..... shall I go on?

Personally I think our soldiers in the world wars wouldn't have bothered if they could see what has happened to their country in the last couple of generations! It's a disgrace!

This is simply not fair.  Although I have to say that i wouldn't have it myself.  But it is all a bit too late now.

I don't know what is to be done.  But then I bailed out twenty years ago.
Title: Re: Britain is ruined!
Post by: Tim Invictus on September 23, 2014, 09:19:00 PM
This is simply not fair.  Although I have to say that i wouldn't have it myself.  But it is all a bit too late now.

I don't know what is to be done.  But then I bailed out twenty years ago.

What's not fair Eleanor, me for what I said or what I listed off?
Title: Re: Soft Touch Britain!
Post by: Mr Moderator on September 23, 2014, 09:44:00 PM
You only have to look at the squabbles over devolution to realise that there is no will in this country to tackle the real hard tasks such as immigration and illegals.  By the way, anyone know what happened to that large group of Sikhs who were smuggled into the country in a lorry a few weeks ago?

Have they all got nice flats in Tower Hamlets yet?

(http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Guardian/Pix/pictures/2014/8/18/1408389374069/Afghan-Sikhs-011.jpg)

www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2014/aug/18/dead-man-in-container-named?view=classic
Title: Re: Britain is ruined!
Post by: Eleanor on September 23, 2014, 11:27:01 PM
What's not fair Eleanor, me for what I said or what I listed off?

No,  I can't have it.   Just because I don't want to live in England any more.  I have no Racial Prejudice.  I don't even know what it means.  But I can always spot it when someone wants to stuff it up my nose.

I live in rural Brittany wherein we never see any thing even remotely connected to coloured.  But believe me, we would not care if we did.
Title: Re: Britain is ruined!
Post by: Tim Invictus on September 24, 2014, 12:08:00 AM
No,  I can't have it.   Just because I don't want to live in England any more.  I have no Racial Prejudice.  I don't even know what it means.  But I can always spot it when someone wants to stuff it up my nose.

I live in rural Brittany wherein we never see any thing even remotely connected to coloured.  But believe me, we would not care if we did.

That's still about as clear as mud Eleanor! Who is 'stuffing racial prejudice up your nose'? Me, I assume?

For the record, I have black and asian friends and a muslim scuba diving buddy. I sponsor two Nepali kiddies to go to the Edmund Hillary school in Nepal; kids of a sherpa killed on Everest who I met trekking out there! No big deal at all; this isn't about racism, this is about the British way of life being swamped and my fears for my daughters living in England!

Our children are being groomed and raped and some murdered in appalling numbers .... it is nothing short of racially targetted peadophilia/rape/murder. It is beyond shameful by both the perpetrators and the cowardly politicians, press and public as a whole who dare not even mention this cancerous sore in our midst lest they be called an 'evil' racist!
Title: Re: Britain is ruined!
Post by: Eleanor on September 24, 2014, 01:40:44 AM

Well there you go..  I don't even know what you are talking about.  But then I have never been subjected to coloured people.  Except in Singapore when it  was really okay okay.  And i had too many servants  to care.  And if you believe that then you are just about as stupid as I think you are.
Title: Re: Britain is ruined!
Post by: Tim Invictus on September 24, 2014, 08:25:51 AM
Well there you go..  I don't even know what you are talking about.  But then I have never been subjected to coloured people.  Except in Singapore when it  was really okay okay.  And i had too many servants  to care.  And if you believe that then you are just about as stupid as I think you are.

 8)--))
Here's a tip Eleanor .... when enterering into a debate, having a point of view clear in your head is just not enough if you don't even try to convey that point to the opposing party!

"And if you believe that then you are just about as stupid as I think you are".

What does the word 'that' refer to?
What have I said that is stupid?

Please do try and make a modicum of sense! (Can we have the 'scratchy head' smiley back please!)
Title: Re: Britain is ruined!
Post by: a.baker on September 24, 2014, 04:45:32 PM
Rotherham isn't a one off sadly. My husband is currently counselling a young girl who is almost ready to go to the police over muslims grooming and abusing young white girls in the Croydon area. It seems its everywhere.
Title: Re: Britain is ruined!
Post by: Tim Invictus on September 24, 2014, 08:11:10 PM
It is everywhere Amanda and god only knows how many 1000's of victims there actually are! There are a lot of blind and ignorant people, never exposed to the reality of what is actuallyhappening all over the country (and Europe) who are more worried about the civil rights of the s..mbags who are racially profiling our children than doing a thing or saying a word to oppose these abhorrent lowlifes!

Title: Re: Britain is ruined!
Post by: Alfred R Jones on September 24, 2014, 10:20:09 PM
So you think it's ok convicted murderers are allowed into the country do you? To murder again! I suppose you have no problem with the literally 100's of Pakistani child grooming gangs specifically targetting underage whitr British girls? You ok with honour killings, female genital mutilation, acid attacks, muslim no go areas, school radicalisation, etc. etc?

Never mind the murder of Lee Rigby, the 7/7 bombings, dozens of foiled terrorist plots, illict drug epidemic, muggings, gun crime, prison overcrowding and violence, NHS at breaking point, housing crisis ..... shall I go on?

Personally I think our soldiers in the world wars wouldn't have bothered if they could see what has happened to their country in the last couple of generations! It's a disgrace!
Hysterical.  You obviously can't read either.
Title: Re: Britain is ruined!
Post by: Tim Invictus on September 25, 2014, 12:16:50 AM
Hysterical.  You obviously can't read either.

You're just like Eleanor Alf; neither of you address or challenge any statement but just dismiss everything said with literally pointless derision! Perhaps it's because you both know everything I have said is the true state of affairs in Britian today!

If anything I have said is 'hysterical' and I 'can't read either' then do yourself, and any credibility you wish to have ,a favour and tell the thread exactly where I am wrong!

I fully concede and accept that the vast majority of immigrants are not jihadists nor child groomers, nor do they endorse or encourage such abhorrent behaviour. That is the only point you apologists can make but that does not detract for one second that these crimes are a direct threat to any decent society and they are virtually exclusive to the immigrant population!

Title: Re: Britain is ruined!
Post by: Holly Goodhead on September 25, 2014, 07:50:06 AM
Hysterical.  You obviously can't read either.

Oh Alfred...I feel a swoon coming on...you look so damn cute.

Do we have any verifiable hard data re the UK immigrant population?  Eg % in prison population, % increase in GDP from immigrant population etc

Also what is the definition of 'immigrant'? 

It is easy to get carried away with tabloid headlines but as far as I can see there are some real serious issues here as highlighted by other posters.
Title: Re: Britain is ruined!
Post by: Andrea on September 25, 2014, 08:09:03 AM
You're just like Eleanor Alf; neither of you address or challenge any statement but just dismiss everything said with literally pointless derision! Perhaps it's because you both know everything I have said is the true state of affairs in Britian today!

If anything I have said is 'hysterical' and I 'can't read either' then do yourself, and any credibility you wish to have ,a favour and tell the thread exactly where I am wrong!

I fully concede and accept that the vast majority of immigrants are not jihadists nor child groomers, nor do they endorse or encourage such abhorrent behaviour. That is the only point you apologists can make but that does not detract for one second that these crimes are a direct threat to any decent society and they are virtually exclusive to the immigrant population!




Timbo, i agree with what you have said. On a happier note, a young British Jihadist has been killed in Syria by an American airstrike. Happy days, 1 down. Better off dead over there than back on the streets over here.
Title: Re: Britain is ruined!
Post by: Tim Invictus on September 25, 2014, 09:04:05 AM

Timbo, i agree with what you have said. On a happier note, a young British Jihadist has been killed in Syria by an American airstrike. Happy days, 1 down. Better off dead over there than back on the streets over here.

One down only 400 or so more to go. I wonder if Alfred is upset hearing the fate of one of his fine upstanding 'British' friends?

I note on the news today 9 'Brits' have been arrested on 'suspicion of encouraging terrorism'! I do wonder what atrocity is coming next; the french jihadist who gunned down 4 jews in a Brussels museum is also accused of raping a woman in Syria then slitting her throat. This after he had decapitated the woman's baby in front of her!

No problem with that Alfred and Eleanor?

President Putin is absolutely spot on when he says Western Europe has committed cultural suicide!
Title: Re: Britain is ruined!
Post by: Tim Invictus on September 25, 2014, 11:09:21 PM
9 'British' muslim radical s..m arrested today (including the vile Choudray) for encouraging terrorism!

French mountain guide kidnapped and beheaded in Algeria ... needless to say by muslim radical s..m.

Plot by muslim radical s..m to bomb New York & Paris subways foiled today.

'British' muslim s..m videoed beheading two Americans and one Brit in Syria identified today.

Just another day in Islam ... Alf and Eleanor will no doubt be enraged by my racist review of today's terror news! 
Title: Re: Britain is ruined!
Post by: Andrea on September 25, 2014, 11:45:41 PM
Islam, the religion of peace that is always at war.

Peaceful my arse.
Title: Re: Britain is ruined!
Post by: Tim Invictus on September 26, 2014, 10:53:58 AM
Islam, the religion of peace that is always at war.

Peaceful my arse.

Careful Andrea, if you even talk about it you're  a racist!
Title: Re: Britain is ruined!
Post by: Holly Goodhead on September 26, 2014, 11:59:31 AM
Perhaps we should have another thread re potential military action in Iraq?

Just listening to BBC News 24.  DC claiming ISIS are psychopaths and EM claiming religious ideology.  Imo it is clearly the latter and on par with Nazism - political ideology. To blame psychopathy on Islamic fundamentalism is nonsense. 

The reason ISIS are so dangerous is that they are here, there and everywhere.  With the Nazis their whereabouts were to a large degree known. 

A theory was put forward explaining how the Nazis were able to orchestrate and inflict such horrors and brutality which was based on obedience to an authority figure:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milgram_experiment

For those who subscribe to this theory the worrying thing is that as far as ISIS goes obedience to an authority figure is a non-existent being ie prophet Muhammad  (shocked emoticon required).
Title: Re: Britain is ruined!
Post by: Alfred R Jones on September 26, 2014, 02:10:29 PM
So you think it's ok convicted murderers are allowed into the country do you? To murder again! I suppose you have no problem with the literally 100's of Pakistani child grooming gangs specifically targetting underage whitr British girls? You ok with honour killings, female genital mutilation, acid attacks, muslim no go areas, school radicalisation, etc. etc?

Never mind the murder of Lee Rigby, the 7/7 bombings, dozens of foiled terrorist plots, illict drug epidemic, muggings, gun crime, prison overcrowding and violence, NHS at breaking point, housing crisis ..... shall I go on?

Personally I think our soldiers in the world wars wouldn't have bothered if they could see what has happened to their country in the last couple of generations! It's a disgrace!

Here is proof that you are unable to read:

From my post:
 Whilst I agree that more should be done to ensure that convicted criminals are not allowed to set foot in the country, please don't use this case for political ranting. 

From your post above in reply to mine:

 So you think it's ok convicted murderers are allowed into the country do you?

The rest of your post is just more hysterical strawman guff.  I await your apology with breath unbated.
Title: Re: Britain is ruined!
Post by: Tim Invictus on September 26, 2014, 02:34:22 PM
Here is proof that you are unable to read:

From my post:
 Whilst I agree that more should be done to ensure that convicted criminals are not allowed to set foot in the country, please don't use this case for political ranting. 

From your post above in reply to mine:

 So you think it's ok convicted murderers are allowed into the country do you?

The rest of your post is just more hysterical strawman guff.  I await your apology with breath unbated.

I do apologise for taking little note of your original post. When you get time off from tree hugging in blinkers perhaps you can be more specific about what I have said that is 'hysterical'? And do try and avoid the obvious 'the vast majority of immigrants aren't terrorists'!
Title: Re: Britain is ruined!
Post by: Alfred R Jones on September 26, 2014, 02:42:37 PM
I do apologise for taking little note of your original post. When you get time off from tree hugging in blinkers perhaps you can be more specific about what I have said that is 'hysterical'? And do try and avoid the obvious 'the vast majority of immigrants aren't terrorists'!
You went into a hysterical rant at me without even properly bothering to read what I wrote or understand my real views, simply because I suggested that using the sad case of Alice Gross as a vehicle for bashing all immigrants was a bit, well, not on.  Have a bit of respect, both for this missing child and for the vast number of immigrants who live in this country who don't rape, torture, kill and behead.  I know I'm asking too much, silly me.
Title: Re: Britain is ruined!
Post by: Tim Invictus on September 26, 2014, 10:19:16 PM
You went into a hysterical rant at me without even properly bothering to read what I wrote or understand my real views, simply because I suggested that using the sad case of Alice Gross as a vehicle for bashing all immigrants was a bit, well, not on.  Have a bit of respect, both for this missing child and for the vast number of immigrants who live in this country who don't rape, torture, kill and behead.  I know I'm asking too much, silly me.

Oh so I am 'using' the frightening disappearance of Alice Gross purely to bash immigration and I have no respect for her at all! And don't flatter yourself that you caused AN hysterical rant from me; we have already established I hadn't bothered to read you original post properly and your latest effort would only be as highly insulting as you wish if I gave a monkeys for your opinion! Unfortunately for you, I don't!

And perhaps it's you who should 'learn to read'! I told you three times not to bother with your only accepted 'vast majority' argument and yet as predicted that is all you had to say. Not a single word about the literally 1000's of underage white girls being groomed and raped by muslim men .... obviously not a problem you care about as you are more interested in defending the abusers' place in British society! You obviously have absolutely no respect for these 1000's of British child victims!

It's the politically correct pygmies, too scared to call a spade a spade, who have destroyed Britain!
Title: Re: Britain is ruined!
Post by: Alfred R Jones on September 27, 2014, 11:32:33 AM
Oh so I am 'using' the frightening disappearance of Alice Gross purely to bash immigration and I have no respect for her at all! And don't flatter yourself that you caused AN hysterical rant from me; we have already established I hadn't bothered to read you original post properly and your latest effort would only be as highly insulting as you wish if I gave a monkeys for your opinion! Unfortunately for you, I don't!

And perhaps it's you who should 'learn to read'! I told you three times not to bother with your only accepted 'vast majority' argument and yet as predicted that is all you had to say. Not a single word about the literally 1000's of underage white girls being groomed and raped by muslim men .... obviously not a problem you care about as you are more interested in defending the abusers' place in British society! You obviously have absolutely no respect for these 1000's of British child victims!

It's the politically correct pygmies, too scared to call a spade a spade, who have destroyed Britain!
Another hysterical strawman rant.  You cannot tell me what I can and cannot post.  You seem to enjoy making lots of unevidenced assumptions about my views but aren't remotely interested in what my views actually are.  You simply decided that because I found the idea of using Alice Gross's disappearance as a vehicle for immigrant-bashing distasteful and unfair that I must be a worthy focus for your anger.  So, fill your boots, I'm disengaging from this discussion.
Title: Re: Britain is ruined!
Post by: Tim Invictus on September 27, 2014, 01:26:28 PM
Another hysterical strawman rant.  You cannot tell me what I can and cannot post.  You seem to enjoy making lots of unevidenced assumptions about my views but aren't remotely interested in what my views actually are.  You simply decided that because I found the idea of using Alice Gross's disappearance as a vehicle for immigrant-bashing distasteful and unfair that I must be a worthy focus for your anger.  So, fill your boots, I'm disengaging from this discussion.

I don't know what your views are; I have asked you and Eleanor to enlighten us many times but you both seem to have no opinion whatsoever on racially targetted child grooming, child rape or any other posted subject. It is obviously more important for you to jump to the defence of the 'vast majority' of law abiding immigrants! That being your only mute, pointless point that I have agreed with from the first post!

Runaway from the debate then! I am indeed disgusted with Britain's open door policy of the last 40 odd years that has led directly to 1000's of child victims and almost certainly the murder of poor Alice Gross and many others! But the politically correct whining of you and Eleanor doesn't amount to a row of beans; you're just two more pygmies afraid to even recognise the truth!

See ya!


Title: Re: Britain is ruined!
Post by: Holly Goodhead on September 28, 2014, 04:13:46 PM
Alfred/Tim

Do either of you have any hard data?  Sorry I don't but I will try to find some.

As far as I can see the main advantage to the UK in terms of immigration would be an increase in GDP?  Meaning all citizens benefit from a more prosperous country.  I have heard some argue that immigtration encourages a wider choice of cuisine but this seems a bit superficial? 

Disadvantages might be strain on infrastructure without further investment.  Immigrants being unable or unwilling to blend into the host country without causing any problems.  Whether multiculturalism works and according to David Cameron and Angela Merkel it doesn't:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-12371994

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-11559451
Title: Re: Britain is ruined!
Post by: puglove on September 28, 2014, 04:39:52 PM
When my daughter had a baby last year, the midwife was looking after 3 other women, my daughter was left for HOURS on blood-soaked sheets, and I had to hold the baby because they couldn't find a cot for her. I have another grandchild on the way, and today I read "Crisis as migrant mums overload maternity wards."

I have to be honest - this really worries me.
Title: Re: Britain is ruined!
Post by: Holly Goodhead on September 28, 2014, 04:55:05 PM
When my daughter had a baby last year, the midwife was looking after 3 other women, my daughter was left for HOURS on blood-soaked sheets, and I had to hold the baby because they couldn't find a cot for her. I have another grandchild on the way, and today I read "Crisis as migrant mums overload maternity wards."

I have to be honest - this really worries me.

Hello puglove

I was going to pm you as you haven't been around.  Nice to see you.

Yes this is what I mean it appears that the Government are telling us that immigration is good for the economy and increases GDP but the flip-side is a strain on infrastructure eg hospitals, schools etc, etc.  Is the Government increasing infrastructure spend to off-set the increase in population from immigration?

Also I believe the data shows that immigrants to the UK have larger families than the indigenous people?

I think the Tories and Lab might have a rude awakening in a little over 7 months time  8(0(*

Title: Re: Britain is ruined!
Post by: Andrea on September 28, 2014, 08:19:49 PM
We have 7 immigrant families on my street.
But my friends daughter cant get a house, she works and pays her taxes, but the local council put the immigrants first. None of them work and to top it off the council even cut their grass otherwise they would just leave it.

Immigration is putting a strain on our services. How can you let thousands of people into a small country and expect it not to have an effect? If anyone thinks otherwise, they need to take their heads out of the sand.
Title: Re: Britain is ruined!
Post by: Tim Invictus on September 28, 2014, 09:24:30 PM
Immigration has cost the country untold £ billions .... one study gave the figure at £140 billion 1995 to 2014! A House Of Lords study stated that mass immigration is a huge net deficit to the country. Never mind the huge pressures and cost to the NHS, police, security services, housing, prison service, etc. etc.

Official figures state there are 600,000 European migrants claiming benefits in the UK. Many claim too for their dependents in their native country. And that is the tip of the iceberg!

No politician will ever tell the truth of this because to even discuss it labels that person a racist! Look at this thread; not one word about child grooming gangs from Eleanor or Alfred but a bucket load of 'righteous indignation' against me which are just veilled accusations of racism! Please note they do not challenge anything in detail; probably because they know I am speaking the truth!
Title: Re: Britain is ruined!
Post by: Tim Invictus on October 03, 2014, 12:27:07 PM
Poor Alice Gross ... R.I.P.

The governments that allowed convicted killers to settle in our country with impunity have this young innocent's death on their hands! It's a national disgrace! Just how many more degenerates are in the UK happily living off our nation?
Title: Re: Britain is ruined!
Post by: Tim Invictus on October 07, 2014, 05:23:37 PM
Untold more victims of Muslim peadophile grooming gangs revealed today in Manchester and Middlesborough .... add those towns to the huge list of towns all over Britian! In 10 months in Manchester there has been over 2000 "pieces of intelligence" on this disgusting plague in our midst!

Needless to say the victims are almost invariably whiite British girls; often well under legal age. These girls are often very vulnerable and living in care homes or come from broken homes. The gangs are invariably groups of muslim men; almost all from Pakistani origin!

This is a national disgrace on an unbelievable scale. Eleanor and Alf just call me racist for even mentioning it but I don't give a fig what they think of my comments. I would personally round up all these gangs and deport them penniless all on the spot. All their possessions should be auctioned off and the proceeds used for care for these poor kids.

That's the civilised response. I would really like to see these s..mbags lynched! End of!
Title: Re: Britain is ruined!
Post by: Tim Invictus on October 08, 2014, 09:54:23 AM
Hey Eleanor and Alf. Four jihadists arrested in London today ... foiling in the police's words "a significant terror plot"!

Are you reconsidering your criticism and veiled accusations of racism? With these almost daily reports of terror plots and the 1000's of victims of Islamic child grooming being revealed and the finding of poor Alice Gross, murdered by an immigrant convicted murderer, do you now accept that uncontrolled immigration is ruining Britian's society.

I am quite willing to accept your apologies!
Title: Re: Britain is ruined!
Post by: a.baker on October 08, 2014, 01:08:53 PM
Was on Fox News. The 'plot' allegedly involved going out on to the streets of London and beheading people. The investigation is still ongoing and there is likely many more of them. Civil war may still break out yet!
Title: Re: Britain is ruined!
Post by: Holly Goodhead on October 08, 2014, 02:02:44 PM
Was on Fox News. The 'plot' allegedly involved going out on to the streets of London and beheading people. The investigation is still ongoing and there is likely many more of them. Civil war may still break out yet!

Quite possible! 

It has all gone quiet on the 15 yo Muslim girl from Bristol who has supposedly been radicalised and is en route to Syria to become a jihadi bride.  Hitherto she had been a straight A's student who enjoyed playing table tennis.  If true it perhaps gives an indication of the level of seriousness.

The authorities have stated when Ebola is likely to arrive in the UK based on current trends and mathematical modelling.  I would be amazed if the authorities are unable to provide the following:   

% of Muslims living in UK - unlikely to become radicalised

% of Muslims living in UK - potential to become radicalised

% of Muslims living in UK - already radicalised

The Archbishop of Canterbury states it is "extraordinarily small" but he fails to provide any evidence to support his assertions.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/religion/10964452/Welby-lets-not-get-hysterical-about-Islamic-radicalisation.html

Title: Re: Britain is ruined!
Post by: Tim Invictus on October 08, 2014, 04:11:46 PM
God help Britain. The country's future has literally been given away to Islam and without unthinkable radicalisation by Christian Britain it is a very few generations before the UK becomes a muslim nation.

The mathematics is very simple. Figures vary but 'native' British have on average under 2 children; muslim couples average between 5 and 6. With this status quo it is inevitable that by the end of the century (perhaps much sooner ) the majority of the population will be muslim.

I believe something has to give though because Britain just isn't big enough to sustain such a massive population explosion. The UK is already around 70 million and most of the infrastructure and services are under immense strain; how on earth will the country sustain the continued and ever increasing population explosion?

President Putin is spot on; we have committed a long, slow cultural suicide!
Title: Re: Britain is ruined!
Post by: sika on October 08, 2014, 07:01:01 PM
God help Britain. The country's future has literally been given away to Islam and without unthinkable radicalisation by Christian Britain it is a very few generations before the UK becomes a muslim nation.

The mathematics is very simple. Figures vary but 'native' British have on average under 2 children; muslim couples average between 5 and 6. With this status quo it is inevitable that by the end of the century (perhaps much sooner ) the majority of the population will be muslim.

I believe something has to give though because Britain just isn't big enough to sustain such a massive population explosion. The UK is already around 70 million and most of the infrastructure and services are under immense strain; how on earth will the country sustain the continued and ever increasing population explosion?

President Putin is spot on; we have committed a long, slow cultural suicide!
I'm sure I've read this before!!

The very things that have made this nation so great, have also contributed to it's undoing.  We have a great health service, a generous benefits system and a 'wouldn't say boo to a goose' attitude.  What poor and desperate person wouldn't want to come and live here?

 I can't believe that there's a softer touch in the world today.
Title: Re: Britain is ruined!
Post by: Tim Invictus on October 08, 2014, 09:42:25 PM
I'm sure I've read this before!!

The very things that have made this nation so great, have also contributed to it's undoing.  We have a great health service, a generous benefits system and a 'wouldn't say boo to a goose' attitude.  What poor and desperate person wouldn't want to come and live here?

 I can't believe that there's a softer touch in the world today.

So true Sika; that's why there are camps at Calais full of all the economic migrants literally desperate to get into Britian!

Imagine if literally 100's of gangs of white Englishmen were deliberately targeting 1000's of underage Pakistani girls to groom and rape. There would be uproar. The looney left would be marching on Parliament and the UAF would be up in arms. There is literally nothing said today by all these liberal do-gooders because the victims are white!

Our ancestors who build the industrialised world are turning in their graves. I am ashamed of my country!
Title: Re: Britain is ruined!
Post by: Andrea on October 08, 2014, 11:47:30 PM
As for the 15 year old that has gone missing, f..k her, I hope she gets blown to bits the silly brain dead little b.........

We don't need the likes of her or her backward f..ktard religion. I hope the lot of these ISIS pricks die, every last shitty f..king one of them. Sorry for the language, but the way I feel about it all I don't give a f..k.
Title: Re: Britain is ruined!
Post by: Tim Invictus on October 09, 2014, 12:15:35 AM
As for the 15 year old that has gone missing, f..k her, I hope she gets blown to bits the silly brain dead little b.........

We don't need the likes of her or her backward f..ktard religion. I hope the lot of these ISIS pricks die, every last shitty f.....g one of them. Sorry for the language, but the way I feel about it all I don't give a f..k.

Glad to see someone as angry as me Andy ... well, not glad, but you know what I mean. The more that go to ISIS the better I say and I couldn't give a monkey's what happens to her .... at 15 she is way past her jihadi sell by date so I can't imagine she will get snapped up!

No drinking, no fags, no music and dressed like a walking bin bag and she well get stoned for being raped! Surely even living in Bradford isn't that bad!
Title: Re: Britain is ruined!
Post by: a.baker on October 09, 2014, 04:58:00 AM
Yes,its been reported that the women are going out there,sleeping with all the men and then being beheaded for being tainted! A group of the Brits that went out there to join ISIS are now in Turkey and want to come back but are too scared. Why don't our government get hold of them and question them as to where the hostages are being held? And then take their passports away?
Title: Re: Britain is ruined!
Post by: Tim Invictus on October 09, 2014, 09:34:17 AM
What I really don't understand is why the leftie activists are 100% SILENT on the subject of radical Islam and Sharia Law on our streets? All the things that are supposed to be an anathama to the left are normal practise in Islam and enshrined in Sharia Law.

Homosexuality: the punishment for being gay in Islam is death!
Racism: the punishment for being jewish in Islam is death! Well that applies to any infidel really, but especially the jews.
Freedom of religion: the punishment for leaving Islam is death (apostate). In practise the punishment for being non-muslim (or even the wrong shade of Islam) is death in many areas of the world!
Sexual equality: everyone knows Islam treats women as second class citizens!
Rape: very common in Islam
Peadophilia: very common in Islam

The left is silent on all these practises of Islam but when there is even a sniff of a demonstration against say child grooming in Rotherham the UAF and other lefty activists are there in force to oppose the 'Nazis and racists' making a stand against radical Islam!

The utter hypocrisy is astounding!