Britain is ruined!

[Tim Invictus]

Police are looking for Latvian Arnis Zalkalns in connection with the disappearance of a lovely 14 year old girl named Alice Gross!

This Latvian s..mbag is already being investigated for an indecent assault against a 14 year old girl in west London. Unbelievably this man is a CONVICTED MURDERER having served time FOR MURDER in Latvia!

This is proof positive that any s..mbag from anywhere in Europe (probably the rest of the world too) no matter what their criminal history can live in and live off of the UK with impunity! THE UK DOESN'T EVEN STOP CONVICTED MURDERERS LIVING IN OUR COUNTRY!

To get my residency in Luxembourg I had to jump through hoops including proving I have no criminal record of any kind and agreeing I couldn't claim any money of the state for any reason and prove that I had private medical insurance! In the UK it doesn't even matter if you're a fycking convicted murderer, peadophile or any other degenerate lowlife!

This is a disgrace beyond words and, along with the radical muslim hordes that have infested the country, spells the ruination of the once great Great Britain!

 

[Mr Moderator]

Police are looking for Latvian Arnis Zalkalns in connection with the disappearance of a lovely 14 year old girl named Alice Gross!

This Latvian s..mbag is already being investigated for an indecent assault against a 14 year old girl in west London. Unbelievably this man is a CONVICTED MURDERER having served time FOR MURDER in Latvia!

This is proof positive that any s..mbag from anywhere in Europe (probably the rest of the world too) no matter what their criminal history can live in and live off of the UK with impunity! THE UK DOESN'T EVEN STOP CONVICTED MURDERERS LIVING IN OUR COUNTRY!

To get my residency in Luxembourg I had to jump through hoops including proving I have no criminal record of any kind and agreeing I couldn't claim any money of the state for any reason and prove that I had private medical insurance! In the UK it doesn't even matter if you're a fycking convicted murderer, peadophile or any other degenerate lowlife!

This is a disgrace beyond words and, along with the radical muslim hordes that have infested the country, spells the ruination of the once great Great Britain!

Decades of leadership by spineless politicians and an almost indifferent approach to immigration has left us where we are today.  Many areas in our once great cities are effectively no go areas for white British people, a situation which should never have been allowed to happen.

Any foreigner with a conviction for murder should not be allowed into the UK in any circumstances and anyone found to be here with such a conviction should be deported on detection.

[Eleanor]

I deliberately and consciously dropped the "Great" twenty years ago when I left.  I shall henceforth be known as English, although not particularly proud of that.  Just an accident of birth.

But having left, I now don't feel that I have a right to say what should happen with immigrants.  I shall leave Westminster to decide about that.  And ultimately, the common people.

[Holly Goodhead]

We hear from the 'great and the good' that immigrants are needed to boost the economy but I haven't actually seen any data supporting this argument.  Admittedly I haven't really looked for any or attempted to carry out my own research either.  In any event it would surely be enormously difficult to quantify any positives eg incr in GDP with any negatives eg strain on infrastructure (without further investment).  And whether or not the immigrants can blend into British society without causing social problems - which seem to range from Islamic extremists carrying out/planning terrorist atrocities to the various nationalities refusing to learn English, thus requiring Government depts. to produce an array of info/notices in an ever increasing number of languages.

Perhaps if British people were paid a living wage as opposed to a minimum wage this would boost the economy,  encourage the work shy, reduce the benefits bill, lower taxes and bring about less social inequality.  Perhaps I'm living in la la land?!

[Eleanor]

Copied from Andrea

This is OT, sorry!
A Latvian is a suspect in the case of Alice Gross who went missing on 3rd September. He had served 7 years for murder in Latvia.
He was arrested here for assault on z young girl but the case against him was dropped.

Nice to know we let people like him come and live among us. Don't we have enough murders committed by our own citizens without foreign ones too. Australia have just carried out the biggest terror raid in their history. 15 people arrested, they were planning public beheadings in Australia. How long before we see IS supporters behead someone here?

Is it just myself who fears for my family's future?

[Eleanor]

Copied from HollyGoodhead.

Quote from: Andrea on September 18, 2014, 10:27:05 AM
This is OT, sorry!
A Latvian is a suspect in the case of Alice Gross who went missing on 3rd September. He had served 7 years for murder in Latvia.
He was arrested here for assault on z young girl but the case against him was dropped.

Nice to know we let people like him come and live among us. Don't we have enough murders committed by our own citizens without foreign ones too. Australia have just carried out the biggest terror raid in their history. 15 people arrested, they were planning public beheadings in Australia. How long before we see IS supporters behead someone here?

Is it just myself who fears for my family's future?

Thanks for highlighting these cases Andrea.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/11103663/Alice-Gross-Latvian-builder-suspect-is-a-convicted-murderer.html

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/australiaandthepacific/australia/11103346/Australia-foils-Islamic-State-terror-plot-to-commit-Lee-Rigby-style-murders.html

Perhaps we should have a separate thread re the UK's immigration policy?

The threat from Islamic extremists at home and elsewhere imo has the potential to escalate.  Perhaps this religious ideology should be treated as dangerous as past political ideologies eg Nazism/fascism?

 

[Alfred R Jones]

It is quite absurd to use this case to attack immigration.  Most immigrants are not criminals / murderers.  Many contribute greatly to their communities, to the economy, to society generally.  Whilst I agree that more should be done to ensure that convicted criminals are not allowed to set foot in the country, please don't use this case for political ranting.   

[Tim Invictus]

It is quite absurd to use this case to attack immigration.  Most immigrants are not criminals / murderers.  Many contribute greatly to their communities, to the economy, to society generally.  Whilst I agree that more should be done to ensure that convicted criminals are not allowed to set foot in the country, please don't use this case for political ranting.

So you think it's ok convicted murderers are allowed into the country do you? To murder again! I suppose you have no problem with the literally 100's of Pakistani child grooming gangs specifically targetting underage whitr British girls? You ok with honour killings, female genital mutilation, acid attacks, muslim no go areas, school radicalisation, etc. etc?

Never mind the murder of Lee Rigby, the 7/7 bombings, dozens of foiled terrorist plots, illict drug epidemic, muggings, gun crime, prison overcrowding and violence, NHS at breaking point, housing crisis ..... shall I go on?

Personally I think our soldiers in the world wars wouldn't have bothered if they could see what has happened to their country in the last couple of generations! It's a disgrace!

[Eleanor]

So you think it's ok convicted murderers are allowed into the country do you? To murder again! I suppose you have no problem with the literally 100's of Pakistani child grooming gangs specifically targetting underage whitr British girls? You ok with honour killings, female genital mutilation, acid attacks, muslim no go areas, school radicalisation, etc. etc?

Never mind the murder of Lee Rigby, the 7/7 bombings, dozens of foiled terrorist plots, illict drug epidemic, muggings, gun crime, prison overcrowding and violence, NHS at breaking point, housing crisis ..... shall I go on?

Personally I think our soldiers in the world wars wouldn't have bothered if they could see what has happened to their country in the last couple of generations! It's a disgrace!

This is simply not fair.  Although I have to say that i wouldn't have it myself.  But it is all a bit too late now.

I don't know what is to be done.  But then I bailed out twenty years ago.

[Tim Invictus]

This is simply not fair.  Although I have to say that i wouldn't have it myself.  But it is all a bit too late now.

I don't know what is to be done.  But then I bailed out twenty years ago.

What's not fair Eleanor, me for what I said or what I listed off?

[Mr Moderator]

You only have to look at the squabbles over devolution to realise that there is no will in this country to tackle the real hard tasks such as immigration and illegals.  By the way, anyone know what happened to that large group of Sikhs who were smuggled into the country in a lorry a few weeks ago?

Have they all got nice flats in Tower Hamlets yet?



www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2014/aug/18/dead-man-in-container-named?view=classic

[Eleanor]

What's not fair Eleanor, me for what I said or what I listed off?

No,  I can't have it.   Just because I don't want to live in England any more.  I have no Racial Prejudice.  I don't even know what it means.  But I can always spot it when someone wants to stuff it up my nose.

I live in rural Brittany wherein we never see any thing even remotely connected to coloured.  But believe me, we would not care if we did.

[Tim Invictus]

No,  I can't have it.   Just because I don't want to live in England any more.  I have no Racial Prejudice.  I don't even know what it means.  But I can always spot it when someone wants to stuff it up my nose.

I live in rural Brittany wherein we never see any thing even remotely connected to coloured.  But believe me, we would not care if we did.

That's still about as clear as mud Eleanor! Who is 'stuffing racial prejudice up your nose'? Me, I assume?

For the record, I have black and asian friends and a muslim scuba diving buddy. I sponsor two Nepali kiddies to go to the Edmund Hillary school in Nepal; kids of a sherpa killed on Everest who I met trekking out there! No big deal at all; this isn't about racism, this is about the British way of life being swamped and my fears for my daughters living in England!

Our children are being groomed and raped and some murdered in appalling numbers .... it is nothing short of racially targetted peadophilia/rape/murder. It is beyond shameful by both the perpetrators and the cowardly politicians, press and public as a whole who dare not even mention this cancerous sore in our midst lest they be called an 'evil' racist!

[Eleanor]

Well there you go..  I don't even know what you are talking about.  But then I have never been subjected to coloured people.  Except in Singapore when it  was really okay okay.  And i had too many servants  to care.  And if you believe that then you are just about as stupid as I think you are.

[Tim Invictus]

Well there you go..  I don't even know what you are talking about.  But then I have never been subjected to coloured people.  Except in Singapore when it  was really okay okay.  And i had too many servants  to care.  And if you believe that then you are just about as stupid as I think you are.

 
Here's a tip Eleanor .... when enterering into a debate, having a point of view clear in your head is just not enough if you don't even try to convey that point to the opposing party!

"And if you believe that then you are just about as stupid as I think you are".

What does the word 'that' refer to?
What have I said that is stupid?

Please do try and make a modicum of sense! (Can we have the 'scratchy head' smiley back please!)