Is the realease of police files a good thing?

[gilet]

No personal information was released, it wasn't even approved to be investigated, unfortunately.

That is possibly the most ridiculous comment you or any other anti-McCann has ever posted on this forum.

Thousands of personal details were released on DVD including personal phone numbers, places of work, ages, dates of birth, passport numbers, photographs, addresses (relating to children and adults alike).

I can think  of no reason other than an attempt to hide the truth that you would post such absolute nonsense.

[gilet]

I am not defending anyone, it's you that blindly appear to be defending the McCann parents.
I defend the right for a small child to be found and to have justice.

There is nothing blind about my defence of the McCanns from the attacks made on them.

Firstly I am very aware of the fact that the McCanns are entirely without guilt in any crime, that there is no evidence of any crime by them, and that they are the parents of a missing little girl.

Every post I make is carefully considered and where necessary uses evidence to back up any claims I make in their favour.

You are defending nothing but the right of Amaral to lie about Madeleine McCann when he says that she is definitely dead. For him to put that in a book from which he wished to make profit when he knows there is no proof of it is simply horrendous.

[Luz]

That is possibly the most ridiculous comment you or any other anti-McCann has ever posted on this forum.

Thousands of personal details were released on DVD including personal phone numbers, places of work, ages, dates of birth, passport numbers, photographs, addresses (relating to children and adults alike).

I can think  of no reason other than an attempt to hide the truth that you would post such absolute nonsense.

Don't keep making a fool of yourself. You are obviously not informed and are simply reacting on hearsay. I feel for you.

[C.Edwards]

That is a gross distortion of what posters here have said.

From that post I presume you condone what I asked about in my previous post.

The release of extremely personal information (with all the security and fraud risks that entails) of children and adults alike as was uniquely done in a wholly uncontrolled way in this case by the Portuguese Authorities is not something I would ever agree with.

I have no criticism whatsoever of the way in which all other cases in Portugal are made public.

It is only this case that was dealt with in this disgraceful way. And the Portuguese Authorities have not once attempted to control the illegal distribution of the information they released.

FWIW I wholeheartedly oppose any private information being released in the files. That includes the phone numbers in the call records and names beyond those known to have been in the main party.  I don't see why full names should have been released at all and should have been restricted to initials or pseudonyms at the very least.

However, I don't see a problem with the general (obfuscated) information being released at all and neither should the McCanns if, as they claim, they had nothing to hide. Their apparent desire to control the media/information flow is very strange to me.

[gilet]

Don't keep making a fool of yourself. You are obviously not informed and are simply reacting on hearsay. I feel for you.

Are you seriously continuing this ludicrous point.
This is not Hearsay.
I received a copy of the DVD directly from a journalist in your country.
Unlike others I have never used the personal information on that DVD.
Indeed I returned that copy of the DVD to the PJ themselves.

You are posting total nonsense.

There was no redaction of anyone's photo, phone number, addresses, ages, and other personal information, whether a child or adult.

The proof of the effect of the release of personal information is in this post from Bennett.

I have obtained your name and details simply by examining many of the thousands of documents about the case released by the Portuguese Police and made public during 2008, which include lists of guests staying at the Ocean Club and/or with Mark Warners during the week the McCanns were there, 28 April to 5 May 2007. There is also amongst the documents released by the police a statement by a Stephen C*****, who now lives in *******, who says that he spoke to a man who had taken three young boys with him on the evening Madeleine disappeared, and by a process of elimination we believe that must be you, as you are the only guest with three boys recorded as being present that week.


http://jillhavern.forumotion.net/t3471p40-would-this-account-for-the-unprecedented-high-level-of-political-support#76442

[Luz]

FWIW I wholeheartedly oppose any private information being released in the files. That includes the phone numbers in the call records and names beyond those known to have been in the main party.  I don't see why full names should have been released at all and should have been restricted to initials or pseudonyms at the very least.

However, I don't see a problem with the general (obfuscated) information being released at all and neither should the McCanns if, as they claim, they had nothing to hide. Their apparent desire to control the media/information flow is very strange to me.

For me it is not strange at all, it has been their way of making money for the last years.

[gilet]

FWIW I wholeheartedly oppose any private information being released in the files. That includes the phone numbers in the call records and names beyond those known to have been in the main party.  I don't see why full names should have been released at all and should have been restricted to initials or pseudonyms at the very least.

However, I don't see a problem with the general (obfuscated) information being released at all and neither should the McCanns if, as they claim, they had nothing to hide. Their apparent desire to control the media/information flow is very strange to me.

Nor do I and nor do the McCanns believe that was unacceptable. That is the normal way things are done in Portugal.

This is the exception. The only instance the information has been released in this way in Portugal, allowing journalists and others to take away DVDs of unredacted information and to distribute them to absolutely anyone, criminal or otherwise.

This is what I object to. This is what the McCanns object to. The availability of such personal detail to every "Tom, Dick or Harry."

And like all decent people I am glad you can see the same.

[gilet]

For me it is not strange at all, it has been their way of making money for the last years.

Making snide digs does not explain why you have been posting such nonsense about the personal details in the files.

Any comment on that now that I have shown you to be utterly wrong in your claim that no personal information was released by the Portuguese Authorities?

[faithlilly]

Nor do I and nor do the McCanns believe that was unacceptable. That is the normal way things are done in Portugal.

This is the exception. The only instance the information has been released in this way in Portugal, allowing journalists and others to take away DVDs of unredacted information and to distribute them to absolutely anyone, criminal or otherwise.

This is what I object to. This is what the McCanns object to. The availability of such personal detail to every "Tom, Dick or Harry."

And like all decent people I am glad you can see the same.

You seem to know rather a lot about how the McCanns think and feel.

Seems that the only individuals supporting them now are close family and friends.

[gilet]

You seem to know rather a lot about how the McCanns think and feel.

Seems that the only individuals supporting them now are close family and friends.

Not at all.

In posting this personal attack on me and this off topic comment about McCann support do you not have any comment to make about the topic of the thread?

Do you condone what the Portuguese Authorities did?

I see Luz has not yet apologised for that grossly untrue comment about personal information.