Interesting that ex Met detective thinks case will not be solved.

[stephen25000]

Thts not an open investigation...you have used the wrong word. Any competent police force will loo at all scenarios and the fact that SY have declared the McCanns not suspects shows that they have looked at them and ruled them out. The PJ ddi not look at all scenarios and wrongly concentrated on the parents

Incorrect as usual.

The PJ looked at abduction and found no evidence.

Incidentally, that's not changed.

[Mr Gray]

Incorrect as usual.

The PJ looked at abduction and found no evidence.

Incidentally, that's not changed.

So why are SY looking at abduction

[Brietta]

It is probably worth remembering that up until last year the search for Madeleine McCann has been financed privately and kept in the public eye by the tenacity of Madeleine’s parents. 

The official reopening of Madeleine’s case was achieved only after years of concerted lobbying whoever they could to have an official investigation into her abduction. 

The question that springs to mind for me is why victims of a crime have been forced to raise funding to pay for private investigators in a bid to find out what happened to their daughter?

Only an official investigation has any hope of getting to the root of what happened and it is disgraceful that it has taken so long for one to be started.

[jassi]

It is probably worth remembering that up until last year the search for Madeleine McCann has been financed privately and kept in the public eye by the tenacity of Madeleine’s parents. 

The official reopening of Madeleine’s case was achieved only after years of concerted lobbying whoever they could to have an official investigation into her abduction. 

The question that springs to mind for me is why victims of a crime have been forced to raise funding to pay for private investigators in a bid to find out what happened to their daughter?

Only an official investigation has any hope of getting to the root of what happened and it is disgraceful that it has taken so long for one to be started.

This isn't unique. There was a case of a young woman, murdered in Kenya, whose Father employed private detectives to investigate the crime.
When a crime occurs outside the jurisdiction of the UK, I'm not sure that public money should be used to investigate.

[Mr Gray]

This isn't unique. There was a case of a young woman, murdered in Kenya, whose Father employed private detectives to investigate the crime.
When a crime occurs outside the jurisdiction of the UK, I'm not sure that public money should be used to investigate.

SY investigated that case as well

[jassi]

SY investigated that case as well

Obviously not to the father's satisfaction, as he sold his house and spent his own money in his search for the truth.

[Mr Gray]

Obviously not to the father's satisfaction, as he sold his house and spent his own money in his search for the truth.

Read up on it..the father was an ex detective and finally got SY involved..I think you will find the father was very happy with SY's contribution...

[Mr Gray]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-15598775

re the kenyan case and a JOINT investigation...UK  and Kenya

[peter claridge]

It is probably worth remembering that up until last year the search for Madeleine McCann has been financed privately and kept in the public eye by the tenacity of Madeleine’s parents. 

The official reopening of Madeleine’s case was achieved only after years of concerted lobbying whoever they could to have an official investigation into her abduction. 

The question that springs to mind for me is why victims of a crime have been forced to raise funding to pay for private investigators in a bid to find out what happened to their daughter?

Only an official investigation has any hope of getting to the root of what happened and it is disgraceful that it has taken so long for one to be started.

There was an official investigation which was shelved despite the fact that the McCann's could have requested it remained live.  It's also worth remembering that certain aspects of their privately funded investigation were withheld from the public, information that could have identified the person they believed to have abducted their child.

[Brietta]

There was an official investigation which was shelved despite the fact that the McCann's could have requested it remained live.  It's also worth remembering that certain aspects of their privately funded investigation were withheld from the public, information that could have identified the person they believed to have abducted their child.

Hmmm ~ would that be the well known postage stamp thing?  Seems there was quite a bit of work put in by Helen Monteiro's team to get the reopening of the case off the ground, so possibly not as simple as sticking a stamp on an envelope.

"were withheld from the public" - Were they now?
Remind me, why was it that the Sunday Times issued an apology to the Drs McCann?

I seem to recall there being something about these efits being in the hands of Leicestershire police and the PJ.

One wonders if they ended up in Ricardo Paiva's file which contained articles 'not relevant to the investigation'?

[peter claridge]

Hmmm ~ would that be the well known postage stamp thing?  Seems there was quite a bit of work put in by Helen Monteiro's team to get the reopening of the case off the ground, so possibly not as simple as sticking a stamp on an envelope.

"were withheld from the public" - Were they now?
Remind me, why was it that the Sunday Times issued an apology to the Drs McCann?

I seem to recall there being something about these efits being in the hands of Leicestershire police and the PJ.

One wonders if they ended up in Ricardo Paiva's file which contained articles 'not relevant to the investigation'?

They had a legal right to prevent the case from being shelved, having not exercised said right a reopening was bound to be more involved.

Hmmm~ remind me did the e-fits appear in Kates book along with Tannerman?

[Benice]

There was an official investigation which was shelved despite the fact that the McCann's could have requested it remained live. 

It's also worth remembering that certain aspects of their privately funded investigation were withheld from the public, information that could have identified the person they believed to have abducted their child.

I take it you are referring to an article in the Sunday Times - which you appear to accept as completely accurate.    Can I take it therefore that you also accept as completely accurate the other claim made in that same article, i.e. that Martin Smith no longer believes the man he saw carrying a child was Gerry McCann?

Quote from the Times

Smith has since stressed that he does not believe the man he saw was Gerry, and Scotland Yard do not consider this a possibility. Last week the McCanns were told officially by the Portuguese authorities that they are not suspects.

Unquote

[Mr Gray]

..............and SY have found ???

I'll give you a clue.

Two initials of the alphabet.

SY have not yet had a chance to take their investigations further..lets see what happens if the Portuguese continue to obstruct