Did this finding get followed up by the PJ?

[Robittybob1]

Yes I agree "um homem com tochas" comes back as a "man with torches".  I have tried 3 online translations and they all pretty much come back with the same answer.

Or is "tochas" slang for something else as well as torches. The Americans call hair on the side of someones head, "bangs" don't they.  So if there was a translation from US English using "bangs" it would look like they had been hit on the head.

Anyone have a dictionary of Portuguese slang?

What I meant was that "um homem com tochas" could have also been an incorrect translation of what SC said originally.

[Sunny]

What I meant was that "um homem com tochas" could have also been an incorrect translation of what SC said originally.

I see, I think it could well be but hopefully when checking the statement back the translator would think, that doesn't sound right? Obviously they didn't though.

I think you are right there Rob so what did SC actually mean? We'll probably never know.

[Robittybob1]

I see, I think it could well be but hopefully when checking the statement back the translator would think, that doesn't sound right? Obviously they didn't though.

I think you are right there Rob so what did SC actually mean? We'll probably never know.

Well there was this other guy Sperrey who had dreadlocks that helped in the searches over night.  Sperrey might have dreadlocks and torches all I know. 
But Steve Carpenter did not get involved in searches during the night so torches were not need for his activities.
So why would a man with torches even come into it.

Michael Sperrey was the man who helped during the search the night Madeleine went missing but wasn't around the next day.
That guy Edmonds didn't help in the search and he wasn't around the next day either but he had mentioned plans to fly to Switzerland.

Will we ever know what Stephen Carpenter meant?  Maybe if he joined the UK Justice forum he could explain it again.  He is hard to find I've looked on Facebook.

[Sunny]

Well there was this other guy Sperrey who had dreadlocks that helped in the searches over night.  Sperrey might have dreadlocks and torches all I know. 
But Steve Carpenter did not get involved in searches during the night so torches were not need for his activities.

DCF: You go on to describe in a little more detail the searches in the apartments neighbouring on Gerry and Kate's apartment, then you met Neil and Raj who began to talk and told you that they had collaborated in the searches the night before.

SC: Yes. .

DCF: And they explained to you that they had seen a man with dreadlocks and they felt there was something suspicious about him, that they were not satisfied with him.

Do Neil and Raj have statements and mention torches or dreadlocks?  I have looked and it is a Neil Berry and Raj Balu but although both have Rogatory statements they don't mention the search but refer back to a statement given in May 2007, neither of which is in the file it seems.

Raj Balu

After 22:00 we were still sitting on the veranda in the Berry apartment. We heard noises downstairs and afterwards found out that a child had disappeared. My testimony dated 6th of May 2007 related the details of the conversation we overheard and the information regarding the paper that Neil and I used in the searches. I cannot add any more details save those which have already been given in this testimony.

Not much help Rob.

[Robittybob1]

It is Jeremy Wilkins who first raised the suspicions about the man with the dreadlocks.  Sperrey was later seen at reception and the receptionist vouched for him.  It is not clear if the PJ ever spoke to him or just left it at that.

[Sunny]

It is Jeremy Wilkins who first raised the suspicions about the man with the dreadlocks.  Sperrey was later seen at reception and the receptionist vouched for him.  It is not clear if the PJ ever spoke to him or just left it at that.

Strange the first mention of dreadlocks (or rasta man as Jeremy Wilkins called him was in his rogatory statement April 2008 and not in his initial statement given May 2007 although this quote below was referring to a conversation he had with a policeman with Robert murat as translator within days of Madeleine's disappearance.


The police officer asked us if we had noticed anything out of the normal and Robert Murat translated. I spoke to him of the 'rasta man' and the police officer took some notes on paper.

[Robittybob1]

Strange the first mention of dreadlocks (or rasta man as Jeremy Wilkins called him was in his rogatory statement April 2008 and not in his initial statement given May 2007 although this quote below was referring to a conversation he had with a policeman with Robert murat as translator within days of Madeleine's disappearance.


The police officer asked us if we had noticed anything out of the normal and Robert Murat translated. I spoke to him of the 'rasta man' and the police officer took some notes on paper.

REPORT OF FOREIGN CARE
Date: 2007/05/04 Location: Praia da Luz - Lagos;

Entity determining the diligence:
Employee who performed it: Manuel P., Inspector

Following various informal conversations related to the area of research, we were contacted by a British citizen named Jeremy Michael Wilkins, holder of passport no. 205...., owner of mobile phone no. +44788...., living in ....London...He spends his holidays at, "WATERSIDE GARDENS," block G4, about 50 metres from the apartment where the small child was. He told us that yesterday, between 8.30 and 9pm, while he was in the "TAPAS" restaurant, he noted that a person of around 1.70m, with long blond hair, apparently of the "Rasta," style and dressed in green military-style clothes, entered the restaurant. This person did not stay very long. Their behaviour was somewhat strange and they seemed to be rather nervous. He was alone, he did not speak to anyone and left soon afterwards. The informant maintains that he has never seen this person in the village.


Some reason that gets converted to dreadlocks.  A surfing person could have dreads.  His passport show s quite scraggly hair.

[Sunny]

REPORT OF FOREIGN CARE
Date: 2007/05/04 Location: Praia da Luz - Lagos;

Entity determining the diligence:
Employee who performed it: Manuel P., Inspector

Following various informal conversations related to the area of research, we were contacted by a British citizen named Jeremy Michael Wilkins, holder of passport no. 205...., owner of mobile phone no. +44788...., living in ....London...He spends his holidays at, "WATERSIDE GARDENS," block G4, about 50 metres from the apartment where the small child was. He told us that yesterday, between 8.30 and 9pm, while he was in the "TAPAS" restaurant, he noted that a person of around 1.70m, with long blond hair, apparently of the "Rasta," style and dressed in green military-style clothes, entered the restaurant. This person did not stay very long. Their behaviour was somewhat strange and they seemed to be rather nervous. He was alone, he did not speak to anyone and left soon afterwards. The informant maintains that he has never seen this person in the village.


Some reason that get converted to dreadlocks.  A surfie person could have dreads.  His passport show s quite scraggly hair.

Poor chap then if he was a suspect just for looking nervous and having straggly blonde hair. Perhaps he was looking for someone. 

[Robittybob1]

Poor chap then if he was a suspect just for looking nervous and having straggly blonde hair. Perhaps he was looking for someone.

That's what I've been thinking too.  They had him booked in on the Tapas booking sheet for 9:00 but there is no evidence he ever turned up.  Maybe he thought it was earlier and was waiting around for his date but she didn't appear.

He was booked for 2 but he was there on his own (according to Wilkins if they were similar), the 2 has been amended on the sheet somehow.

[Robittybob1]

Here is a good reference and discussion
http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=1847.msg58179#msg58179

"MICHAEL SPERREY
CLARE SPERREY
 
------ In the main reception (open 24h) of the Ocean Club, the signatory [undersigned] was able to observe a person with long hair, curly, blonde in colour, with camouflage shorts and green sweat-shirt, which fit the description of the suspect of the "Rastas", it being that I questioned the receptionist about him, who said that this individual and his wife are guests in the hotel and he has been tireless, since yesterday, in search of the missing girl. Attached are photocopies of their passports as well as the hotel registration form. ----------

Note from Albym

[The very last paragraph of my translation of pages 121-125 in /PJ/TAPAS-EMPLOYEES.htm states that they are passport copies of the person identified as the man with 'Rasta' hairstyle, camouflage shorts and green sweat-shirt (taken to be the person seen by Jez Wilkins per his witness statement), and his wife. They were resort guests. I have no reference to a formal witness statement from them on file, merely the above identification to eliminate them from the inquiry.]   

Signature of official: Duarte F**** - Inspector

Odd place to put it 

http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/TAPAS-EMPLOYEES.htm

And these 2 were having a meal, from 9pm. Seems odd they wouldn't still be there at 10pm, doesn't it?

[Robittybob1]

Sperrey's passport photos:

[Robittybob1]

That photo of Michael Sperrey was taken 4 years earlier so plenty of time to start growing dreadlocks.

[Robittybob1]

What I'm finding now is the disjunction between what seems to be information about Michael Sperrey and what Jez Wilkins says later.
" The next morning, after having become aware of Madeleine's disappearance, we went to breakfast and left the children in the club. Bridget and I returned to the apartment and minutes afterward, a uniformed police officer, accompanied by a British man serving as interpreter, showed up. Later we came to know him as Robert Murat. I do not remember if he gave me his details but recently when I was cleaning a bag, I came across a card with his name and telephone number. I believe that he may have given this to me so that we could contact him in case we had any additional information to offer. The police officer asked us if we had noticed anything out of the normal and Robert Murat translated. I spoke to him of the 'rasta man' and the police officer took some notes on paper. He also noted our names and passport numbers. During the days that followed, as we passed through the police cordon, we noticed Robert Murat on numerous occasions. On Friday, the 4th of May or Saturday, 5th of May 2007, at one of the police cordons, I again saw Robert Murat. He told me that they had investigated the lead of the 'rasta man' but that he was a local man and that everything was okay. He thanked me for my collaboration. I never saw Robert prior to his visit to our apartment with the police officer. "


Jeremy here is saying RM said Rasta man was a local whereas the passport and bookings suggest a tourist.

[Robittybob1]

This TextUSA has got a good criticism of the situation once again: http://textusa.blogspot.com/2015/02/bladderman.html

"If inspector Ferro had seen a man with “rastas” he would have used the term rastas. Or possibly “tranças” (braids) but never long curly hair as he does.

But let’s suppose for a minute that Sperrey had a “rastafarian hairstyle and inpsector Ferro was unfortunate in the choice of words.

Since when is a man confirmed to be a person described by another simply by fitting the description? Is Sperrey the only one who would fit that description, or are there many others who would too? Of course there would.

But the thing that makes it a reality that Rastaman hasn’t been ruled to be Sperrey is because the person who says he sees Rastaman, Jez Wilkins, is not ever confronted with the man, personally or by picture to confirm or deny that he was or was not the man he claims he saw.

Only Jez Wilkins could do that. Only Jez Wilkins can prove or disprove Sperrey to be the Rastaman he saw. No one else but him. And he doesn’t.

And the excuse that Jez could have already returned home falls to the ground as the inspector is clear in saying that Sperrey had been “tireless since yesterday”, meaning that this external diligence took place either on the 4th or 5th, when Wilkins was still in Luz."

Did you notice the word for Torches and braids is virtually identical?  “tranças” = Braids
"um homem com tochas"  Tochas = torches Trancas and tochas could be mistaken.

[Robittybob1]

Was there a short cut to block 4 from the Tapas pool area?  Neil Berry says something I can't comprehend otherwise: http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/NEIL_BERRY.htm

"I am not certain where I was at 18.00. It is possible that I was already in my apartment or returning from the bar. In order to arrive at my apartment I would walk along the side of the pool, crossing the stairs of block 4. If I were with someone, this person would be Raj, but as I have already said I do not remember whether I returned with him or before him. I do not remember having seen a lift in any of the apartment blocks. I was not in block 5, but had to pass by it in order to arrive at my apartment. It is possible that I was on the other side of the street opposite block five." 
Where was Berry heading  what apartment was he in?  " I think that our apartment was 4G"  Was he in block 4?
4G would be the first level up wouldn't it?

I see he is being questioned about being seen by a laundry man in the stairwell.  But he denies ever being in block 5. 
"With regard to where I was at 18.00, whom I was with and the fact that I was seen by a witness at this time next to stairs and lift of block 5 of the Ocean Club:"  It must have at some stage put to him as a fact that he had been in block 5 seen by the laundry man.  When I had read that previously I was thinking he had admitted it was a fact, but really it was an allegation only.

Do the laundry men admit to seeing someone in the stairwell, yes but only years later.  That suggests the PJ knew about this much earlier but were keeping it quiet.  Have I got that right?