Did this finding get followed up by the PJ?

[Robittybob1]

G-unit has Berry in another apartment altogether: http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=8179.msg411989#msg411989

"Apartment 606 was occupied all week by Neil Berry. It's on the same level as the balcony referred to and the Berrys and Balus were sitting on the apartment's large balcony overlooking the car park behind block 6 all evening on 3rd. Berry was due to leave on 5th, so I assume the police took over the apartment after he vacated it. "

If he was in Block 6 why did he take the "short cut"?  The best path yo block 6 would be out through the secondary reception gate wouldn't it?

[Robittybob1]

Shining in Luz say this: http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=8179.msg412748#msg412748

"A year after the disappearance, Neil Berry thought he might have been in apartment 4G.  He was actually booked into 606.  Luckily his statement has enough information to confirm he was in block 6, 1 floor up."

Did I fail to see how it was "Block 6, 1 floor up"?   

I seem to think apartment 4G would also be 1 floor up.  But why block 6?  Is there a booking for 606?  [F is the 6th letter of the alphabet.]

[Robittybob1]

No room allocation here:

[Robittybob1]

Room allocation here G606  How can someone get confused between block 4 and block 6?

[Sunny]

Very interesting Rob.

More food for thought.  Here is a plan of the Ocean club showing block 6 opposite block 5 on the Rue St Francisco Gentil Martins



Yet Neil Berry says this in his statement.

With regard to where I was at 18.00, whom I was with and the fact that I was seen by a witness at this time next to stairs and lift of block 5 of the Ocean Club:
I am not certain where I was at 18.00. It is possible that I was already in my apartment or returning from the bar. In order to arrive at my apartment I would walk along the side of the pool, crossing the stairs of block 4. If I were with someone, this person would be Raj, but as I have already said I do not remember whether I returned with him or before him. I do not remember having seen a lift in any of the apartment blocks. I was not in block 5, but had to pass by it in order to arrive at my apartment. It is possible that I was on the other side of the street opposite block five.

Why would he have to walk past block 4 to get to block 6 from the tapas bar. Also if he was walking from block 6 why would he be on the other side of the street from block 5.  He would have to cross over the street at some point to get into the gate where the pool, tapas area is.

A lot doesn't make sense to me unless I am misreading where block 6 is of course.

[Robittybob1]

Very interesting Rob.

More food for thought.  Here is a plan of the Ocean club showing block 6 opposite block 5 on the Rue St Francisco Gentil Martins



Yet Neil Berry says this in his statement.

With regard to where I was at 18.00, whom I was with and the fact that I was seen by a witness at this time next to stairs and lift of block 5 of the Ocean Club:
I am not certain where I was at 18.00. It is possible that I was already in my apartment or returning from the bar. In order to arrive at my apartment I would walk along the side of the pool, crossing the stairs of block 4. If I were with someone, this person would be Raj, but as I have already said I do not remember whether I returned with him or before him. I do not remember having seen a lift in any of the apartment blocks. I was not in block 5, but had to pass by it in order to arrive at my apartment. It is possible that I was on the other side of the street opposite block five.

Why would he have to walk past block 4 to get to block 6 from the tapas bar. Also if he was walking from block 6 why would he be on the other side of the street from block 5.  He would have to cross over the street at some point to get into the gate where the pool, tapas area is.

A lot doesn't make sense to me unless I am misreading where block 6 is of course.

You're having the same problem I had.

[Robittybob1]

This  has been very hard to get my head around,  in fact I read through Stephen Carpenters statement again today and there are still large bits that I have no idea what he was on about.  It is a shame DCF didn't make a greater attempt to clarify it.  The whole interview took less than an hour. 

After the work on the whole group of the interconnected statements it appears that Neil Berry was questioned in his first statement about being in the stair well of Apartment block G5.

That means the laundryman had told someone in authority about the sighting he says he had. Yet this is not recorded on the laundry man's statement.
What time was that sighting?  Berry is questioned about where he was a 6:00 PM.  Is that when the laundry man says he saw that person?

[Robittybob1]

In the article that came out 6 years later the sighting was on the day before.  The laundry man talks of the dark stairwell.  Would it be dark there at 6:00 PM?
http://www.gerrymccannsblogs.co.uk/press/73may13/Portugal_29_05_2013.htm

"A Portuguese laundry worker who was working at the resort from where Madeleine McCann disappeared has this week spoken about a “weird” stranger lurking in a dark stairwell a day earlier.
Mário Fernando Madeira Marreiros (47) told the Mirror this week that his testimony was ignored by Portuguese investigators.

He says he made the sighting the night before Madeleine’s disappearance as he went to collect dirty laundry.

“I saw the weird guy and we nearly bumped into each other. He was embarrassed. He looked nervous.” 

Mário Fernando continues that the man had “a really fat face” and that he wore “two-tone sunglasses”
“There was no reason for him to be there and no reason to wear the glasses as it was dark under the stairs”, he told the Mirror.
“My theory is that guy must have been involved, either in the kidnapping or studying what to do – their movements.”

The divorcee has urged British detectives to contact him. 

In his initial testimony given five days after her disappearance, and which is available at http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/MARIO_MARREIROS.htm  he told investigators that he did not know “of anything suspicious that could be related to the events.” "

Well as I say he did tell the PJ but they kept it out of his written statement. 
It still doesn't explain why Berry was questioned about being there at 6:00 PM on the Thursday.

The other thing to remember was that the stairwell is not connected to the McCann apartment, as 5A has separate entrances.

 

[jassi]

Maybe he meant it was not well lit, or perhaps not lit at all, so it could be quite dark even if daylight outside.

[Alice Purjorick]

Maybe he meant it was not well lit, or perhaps not lit at all, so it could be quite dark even if daylight outside.

It's odd how it appears there are never any average tradesmen etc having a crafty drag in a stairwell.
They are all "weird" in some way or another which kind of flies in the face of normal distribution.
Just who are these arbiters of weird?

[jassi]

It seems the whole place was populated by suspicious characters that week - even though it felt so safe 

[Robittybob1]

Did Neil Berry have  “a really fat face” and that he wore “two-tone sunglasses”?
http://www.gerrymccannsblogs.co.uk/WITNESS.htm#w4



That doesn't look like a real fat face to me.

[jassi]

Pretty subjective really. What might look fat to one person might look normal to another.
I have no idea what two-tone sunglasses are. Can anyone explain ?

[Robittybob1]

Was it the frame or the lens that was two toned?
Some have two tones in the frame others have different shades of tint in the lens.

[Robittybob1]

Did Neil Berry have  “a really fat face” and that he wore “two-tone sunglasses”?
http://www.gerrymccannsblogs.co.uk/WITNESS.htm#w4



That doesn't look like a real fat face to me.

Raj Balu would be more fat faced than Neil IMO.