Over the last week I have been reading posts written by Alice and besides that I came up with 2 insights that extend from the work in this thread all involving cleaners and laundrymen. There was a third that would need to be discussed in another thread.
"Insights:
1. Was there a washing machine in Russell’s apartment? If the Laundryman was there could he have supplied new sheets and taken the dirty ones away?
2. Were the sheets in 5A taken to the laundry first thing next morning? There is all this talk about them being removed but when did this happen? Who was behind that if it happened?
1. From the cadaver dog examination of the apartment G5D we might be able to tell if there was a washing machine large enough to handle sheets.
From Russell's statements we might be able to sense what actually happened to the dirty laundry.
Russell O'Brien's interview 11th May 2007,
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/RUSSELL-OBRIEN.htmNot exactly in his own words, and very odd that the PJ record it as "the truth is...."
"- The truth is that after the crying, the deponent had to change all the sheets and his daughter's clothing as she had vomited."
Well that doesn't mention where the dirty sheets were put. What about the rogatory interview?
Well it seems to be some sort of sore point: "That, you know, given the amount of stick that, that I’ve had with the Portuguese Press for not requesting any fresh sheets for Evie, erm, I think I’d actually like to point out that the, that this wasn’t some third world, erm, apartment and it did actually have a washing machine. And, erm, you know, we’ve been, you know, they don’t know where it’s come from, but, erm, I don’t know whether it is a question that the PJ have particularly done, but, you know, every time I translated to the PJ, erm, the Portuguese Press article, it says that we never requested any, erm, we never requested any further sheets and if they were sick all over them then how could this be true. But it’s quite sort of staggering that eight months later then the fact that there was a washing machine in the building isn’t in there, so I would be very keen for that to be put in please”."
So what is he implying he washed and dried the sheets immediately? That's rather a difficult task to complete rapidly! Is there anything more?
"Reply “So ‘I told him to go back and tell Jane that Evie was unwell’, erm, I’d obviously cleaned her up and changed her. Erm, I think maybe what I would do is I’d say ‘Matt came into my apartment and asked if I needed any help, I said ‘No, go back and tell Jane that Evie was unwell’’ and then, because I don’t think that I would have had time then, it was then I started, ‘I got her out, I gave her a quick wash in the bath, changed her, got the sheet off the cot’, erm, and at least, whether I started the washing machine then, but at least ‘I put them in the washing machine and then sat down with Evie’. But I want it in there that there was a bloody washing machine in the apartment”.
1578 “’Gave Evie a quick bath’'”
Reply “Yeah”.
1578 “’Changed her’'”
Reply “’Changed her’ and, erm, and MARK WARNER do stretch to cleaning facilities on their holidays, so”.
1578 “’And placed bed linen’'”
Reply “Excuse to sound so cynical, but. ‘And placed’, well I don’t think, I don’t think I necessarily put the, I got the dirty linen and her clothes off and at least I think, you know, there was a few bits of sick and I probably gave them a rinse off in the bath and then just shoved them in the washing machine, whether I started it then or did it later I’ve no idea. But, you know, since we’ve been”.
1578 “’And placed clothing’”.
Reply “Suspicion has been put on us because, erm, we didn’t request any further sheets. I think I’d rather have it in there that, erm”.
1578 “’Into the washing machine’”."
Does Russell actually address the issue at hand - where did the replacement sheets come from?
"Personally I don’t feel as anti the re-enactment of some of, as some of the rest of the group and that is despite having perhaps some of the most, you know, some of the worst Press out of the, out of the lot of us, you know, I’ve, you know, I’m the male who was away from the room for the longest, you know, I didn’t ask for bed sheets and a whole range of other sort of associations with Exeter and Robert MURAT, you know, there’s, you know, I’ve got a lot more in many respects to, to be worried about travelling to Portugal."
If he had spare bed sheets in the cupboard why wouldn't he just say he didn't need any replacements for they were there?
You would think Jane would have to complete the process of washing and drying the sheets, so what does she say?
Jane's rogatory says something similar:
" then I went back, erm, to find Russell sort of, you know, with, Evie was awake and I think he’d put her in the bath, because I think she had been, I think when he’d been in she had actually been sick, so he put her in the bath and he put the sheets all in the washing machine that was in the apartment. Because that’s another thing about the sheets, but we’d been doing washing all week, because you know what it’s like with kids, you end up with, so they were in the washing machine. Erm, yeah, and then he, so I then, we were probably in there together for, I don’t know how long, five minutes of whatever, and then he went back to finish off the rest of, erm, well finish the rest of the meal”."
OK when I find the link to the dog video we can look and see where this often spoken about washing machine was.
