Did this finding get followed up by the PJ?

[Robittybob1]

Moving on and back to the topic of things not apparently followed up by the PJ.

There were two issues mentioned:
1. Someone calling out to Madeleine.

2. The suggestion Kate's alarm was earlier.

The written timeline on the night would be a fair indicator.    Clearly reads 10:00 PM.

[G-Unit]

Jayne and Annie's story matches - I think you are stretching it to say they were lying, or possibly lying.

Neil Berry is questioned about being in the stairwell which obviously came from what Mario had told the PJ, so he wasn't lying either.

Julian Totman must have felt let down by the inaction over what he said to the PJ he actually saved the grotty old pyjamas his daughter was wearing. (I had asked the forum to suggest reasons he kept those grotty pyjamas)  Are you saying or thinking he was lying?  I doubt he was lying, I doubt that very much, even SY believed him.

Now looking at John Hill - he was interviewed the next day and he said something to the effect that he expected Madeleine to be found sleeping under a tree somewhere.  I remember it but I'm not sure where that was now just off  the top of my head, but you've probably heard it too.  Were you convinced by that?  Late in the afternoon the next day and Madeleine still sleeping! - maybe if she had been badly overdosed.

He had an opportunity to mention going to Jez' in his statement, but didn't.  Asking him questions, and surely without the PJ permission, that must have been against the judicial secrecy laws.

What about - "There is evidence that someone was calling 'Madeleine' at around 9.30. There is evidence that the group may have left the table earlier than reported?"

Well it would be very interesting to see if we could fathom those two issues out.

Why would you take notice of rumours? Evidence is what counts, not rumours in the media. Many have claimed to have spoken to the police, but they certainly can't prove it.

[Robittybob1]

Why would you take notice of rumours? Evidence is what counts, not rumours in the media. Many have claimed to have spoken to the police, but they certainly can't prove it.

The corroborating evidence was there for those 3 claims that they had spoken to the police, some maybe to the UK police who didn't allow their files to be made public at the archiving of the case.
Who else claimed to speak to the police, there must have been thousands IMO for they kept thousands of files from being released.

[G-Unit]

The corroborating evidence was there for those 3 claims that they had spoken to the police, some maybe to the UK police who didn't allow their files to be made public at the archiving of the case.
Who else claimed to speak to the police, there must have been thousands IMO for they kept thousands of files from being released.

What corroborating evidence?

[Robittybob1]

What corroborating evidence?

Jayne and Annie's story matches

Neil Berry is questioned about being in the stairwell which obviously came from what Mario had told the PJ,

Julian Totman must have felt let down by the inaction over what he said to the PJ he actually saved the grotty old pyjamas his daughter was wearing.
They are three points of corroborating evidence that they contacted the police at the time.

[G-Unit]

Jayne and Annie's story matches

Neil Berry is questioned about being in the stairwell which obviously came from what Mario had told the PJ,

Julian Totman must have felt let down by the inaction over what he said to the PJ he actually saved the grotty old pyjamas his daughter was wearing.
They are three points of corroborating evidence that they contacted the police at the time.

Of course the women's story matches, they were sisters. It's clear that something went on around Berry and Balu, because not all their evidence was included and if Mario made a statement that wasn't included either. You are assuming that Julian Totman was indeed the man found by Operation Grange. I don't think there was a claim that he spoke to the PJ, by the way. I think the GNR were mentioned.

[Robittybob1]

Of course the women's story matches, they were sisters. It's clear that something went on around Berry and Balu, because not all their evidence was included and if Mario made a statement that wasn't included either. You are assuming that Julian Totman was indeed the man found by Operation Grange. I don't think there was a claim that he spoke to the PJ, by the way. I think the GNR were mentioned.

Mrs Totman said "local police" whatever that meant.

[Snowgirl]

Mrs Totman said "local police" whatever that meant.

Local police is defined as being a force responsible for the surrounding area . In this case ,as we know,  this was the GNR .

[Robittybob1]

Local police is defined as being a force responsible for the surrounding area . In this case ,as we know,  this was the GNR .

That could be right, but do you accept that it happened at all?

[Snowgirl]

That could be right, but do you accept that it happened at all?

The incident or what  he said and what she said ?

[Robittybob1]

The incident or what  he said and what she said ?

We are talking about whether the Totmans reported to the police that they took their daughter home that night.
Do you accept that happened?

[G-Unit]

We are talking about whether the Totmans reported to the police that they took their daughter home that night.
Do you accept that happened?

I think this has been discussed before.

1. There was no motive to mention it unless they knew about the Tanner sighting.
2. If they knew about the Tanner sighting why didn't they make sure everyone knew it was probably him?
3. If they heard about the Tanner sighting after returning home why didn't they make sure the authorities knew it might be him?

[pathfinder73]

Moving on and back to the topic of things not apparently followed up by the PJ.

There were two issues mentioned:
1. Someone calling out to Madeleine.

2. The suggestion Kate's alarm was earlier.

The written timeline on the night would be a fair indicator.    Clearly reads 10:00 PM.

That also clearly reads that Russell got back to the table at 9:55pm when it was in fact 9:45pm - 10 minutes discrepancy. Both Russell and Matt said they left at 9:25 not 9:35. I could go on but the 10 minutes is important!

[G-Unit]

That also clearly reads that Russell got back to the table at 9:55pm when it was in fact 9:45pm - 10 minutes discrepancy. Both Russell and Matt said they left at 9:25 not 9:35. I could go on but the 10 minutes is important!

Exactly. Despite the repeated attempts to produce a definitive timeline it never emerged. People still showed their lack of agreement during their individual interviews.

[Eleanor]

Exactly. Despite the repeated attempts to produce a definitive timeline it never emerged. People still showed their lack of agreement during their individual interviews.

Not unsurprising really.