Author Topic: Is sectarianism a factor in the McCann case?  (Read 49984 times)

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Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: Is sectarianism a factor in the McCann case?
« Reply #375 on: September 11, 2018, 10:08:58 PM »
Do you have examples please?
Not without going though all your posts for the last year.  Are you claiming you have never accused me of abusing you?  You also claimed that using the term”sceptic” was abusive.
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Offline slartibartfast

Re: Is sectarianism a factor in the McCann case?
« Reply #376 on: September 11, 2018, 10:10:59 PM »
It was your use of the term “acceped” narrative that bands all the cases I mentioned togther.  What is the difference between “established facts” and “accepted narrative” then, in your view?

9/11, Lee Rigby and Sandy Hook are established facts, there is an “accepted” narrative around the disappearance of MM which may not be fact.
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Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: Is sectarianism a factor in the McCann case?
« Reply #377 on: September 11, 2018, 10:15:53 PM »
9/11, Lee Rigby and Sandy Hook are established facts, there is an “accepted” narrative around the disappearance of MM which may not be fact.
You are aware of course that there are numerous people who don’t accept the established facts of the the cases mentioned, just as many don’t accept the “accepted narrative, but what is the “accepted” narrative then, and accepted by whom exactly?
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Offline faithlilly

Re: Is sectarianism a factor in the McCann case?
« Reply #378 on: September 11, 2018, 10:50:32 PM »
Summed up in a short sentence.

Do you think it’s possible to think someone guilty of a crime but hatred to have no part in that opinion ?
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Offline Brietta

Re: Is sectarianism a factor in the McCann case?
« Reply #379 on: September 12, 2018, 01:58:55 AM »
I disagree, obviously. An article in the media about Father Pacheco isn't relevant on a thread about sectarianism. I have started a new thread where opinions about the McCann's religion can be discussed.
A discussion on the various links in the chain of the excoriation of the McCanns involving perceived sectarianism is in my opinion quite valid.

Opening a thread to discuss the McCann's religion is in my opinion so crass as to be beneath contempt.
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Offline Robittybob1

Re: Is sectarianism a factor in the McCann case?
« Reply #380 on: September 12, 2018, 06:05:25 AM »
A discussion on the various links in the chain of the excoriation of the McCanns involving perceived sectarianism is in my opinion quite valid.

Opening a thread to discuss the McCann's religion is in my opinion so crass as to be beneath contempt.
Well who knows , they went to Fatima, then to the Rome, and her book was full of religiosity, I think Kate will welcome a discussion on it.
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Offline G-Unit

Re: Is sectarianism a factor in the McCann case?
« Reply #381 on: September 12, 2018, 07:40:43 AM »
A discussion on the various links in the chain of the excoriation of the McCanns involving perceived sectarianism is in my opinion quite valid.

Opening a thread to discuss the McCann's religion is in my opinion so crass as to be beneath contempt.

I wonder why? It was you who raised the subject of their religion, not I. I was discussing sectarian attitudes and speech.

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Religion and the misinterpretation of it has in my opinion featured largely in Madeleine's case from the word go.
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Offline G-Unit

Re: Is sectarianism a factor in the McCann case?
« Reply #382 on: September 12, 2018, 07:58:19 AM »
I think the hatred is already within those who hate... The case just provides them with a focus

That seems to be a description of a troll. No real interest in the case, just a desire to cause disruption and upset others. That's not necessarily sectarianism, it's probably just nastiness.
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: Is sectarianism a factor in the McCann case?
« Reply #383 on: September 12, 2018, 08:41:46 AM »
That seems to be a description of a troll. No real interest in the case, just a desire to cause disruption and upset others. That's not necessarily sectarianism, it's probably just nastiness.

It is just nastiness...

Offline G-Unit

Re: Is sectarianism a factor in the McCann case?
« Reply #384 on: September 12, 2018, 09:40:38 AM »
It is just nastiness...

Unconnected to sectarianism then.
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Offline G-Unit

Re: Is sectarianism a factor in the McCann case?
« Reply #385 on: October 01, 2018, 02:59:02 PM »
Well, I am surprised. How many more 'isms' are being perpetuated within our police forces?

Met settles sectarian bullying case for 'tens of thousands' after Catholic detective claims he was discriminated against by his Ulster Protestant boss
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3229420/Catholic-detective-subjected-sectarian-bullying-harassment-Ulster-Protestant-boss-Scotland-Yard.html
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Offline John

Re: Is sectarianism a factor in the McCann case?
« Reply #386 on: October 01, 2018, 03:22:37 PM »
Well, I am surprised. How many more 'isms' are being perpetuated within our police forces?

Met settles sectarian bullying case for 'tens of thousands' after Catholic detective claims he was discriminated against by his Ulster Protestant boss
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3229420/Catholic-detective-subjected-sectarian-bullying-harassment-Ulster-Protestant-boss-Scotland-Yard.html

A lot of bullying does go on in the police force which surprised me too initially.  It's not a job for weak people or those with thin skins.  The armed forces are the same too, probably the nature of the beast.

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Offline slartibartfast

Re: Is sectarianism a factor in the McCann case?
« Reply #387 on: October 01, 2018, 04:22:02 PM »
A lot of bullying does go on in the police force which surprised me too initially.  It's not a job for weak people or those with thin skins.  The armed forces are the same too, probably the nature of the beast.

It produces people with hide like rhinos.
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Offline Alice Purjorick

Re: Is sectarianism a factor in the McCann case?
« Reply #388 on: October 01, 2018, 05:47:29 PM »
Bullying in the work place is bad.
Having "managers" whose knowledge of employment laws is so piss poor it costs you money is even worse.
They are the ones who will do it again if not retrained or shoved up a bleeding backwater where they can do no damage. It thrives in the public sector because the tax payers pockets are bottomless.
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Offline barrier

Re: Is sectarianism a factor in the McCann case?
« Reply #389 on: October 01, 2018, 05:59:39 PM »
Bullying in the work place is bad.
Having "managers" whose knowledge of employment laws is so piss poor it costs you money is even worse.
They are the ones who will do it again if not retrained or shoved up a bleeding backwater where they can do no damage. It thrives in the public sector because the tax payers pockets are bottomless.

It thrives in the private sector as well.
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