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Offline Alice Purjorick

Re: "no evidence" to support a theory missing girl Madeleine McCann is alive
« Reply #120 on: October 09, 2018, 04:22:58 PM »
Have they interviewed anyone... Or have they sat in on interviews with the PJ asking their questions for them... I can't see how anyone can deny their ability to investigate is severely limited ...every part is subject to an ilor... How much time have they simply had to sit and wait til the ilor is granted

Six months per ILOR is the suggested guide line CPS[not solely for Portugal].
All this has been done ad nauseam.
That's the system for you, it will not change simply because a few folk believe the McCanns are a special case.
It's also what you wind up with after political interference [David Cameron allowing himself to be shanghaied into overruling his Home Sec and head of MPS].

The original objective of O.G was:
"The investigative review is intended to collate, record and analyse what has gone before.
It is to examine the case and seek to determine, (as if the abduction occurred in the UK) what additional, new investigative approaches we would take and which can assist the Portuguese authorities in progressing the matter".
What ever they were they have not advanced the case much.
"Navigating the difference between weird but normal grief and truly suspicious behaviour is the key for any detective worth his salt.". Ö.Sarah Bailey

Online Snowgirl

Re: "no evidence" to support a theory missing girl Madeleine McCann is alive
« Reply #121 on: October 09, 2018, 05:00:34 PM »
I suppose Given away is a possibility - a sort of staged abduction by agreement. No wackier an idea than others we've seen.
Fraught with all sorts of potential difficulties however, as time passes and child grows to maturity.

If this were the case, it certainly hasn't panned out as anticipated.
Wasnít it suggested in  PJís question  #41  that the parents had discussed handing Madeleine over to others ?

Offline xtina

Re: "no evidence" to support a theory missing girl Madeleine McCann is alive
« Reply #122 on: October 09, 2018, 05:01:49 PM »
For SY to investigate the case how they did....is like reading a who done it

with the begining missing...and half the characters.....

it is never going to make sense....or be solved

same as SY investigating.... starting halfway through the case......

not even knowing if maddie was even alive.......

my post is in my opinion

« Last Edit: October 10, 2018, 06:01:36 PM by John »
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Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: "no evidence" to support a theory missing girl Madeleine McCann is alive
« Reply #123 on: October 09, 2018, 05:33:14 PM »
Edgar isn't investigating, is he? He's speaking to the media about his beliefs.
Well if you can explain how his comments are unhelpful please do go ahead.  Please remember to quote him verbatim when pointing out the problems with what he has said.
"The answer is that no-one here believes the parents were directly involved in MM's disappearance" - G-Unit.

Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: "no evidence" to support a theory missing girl Madeleine McCann is alive
« Reply #124 on: October 09, 2018, 05:34:20 PM »
There's a huge difference between an opinion based on evidence and a belief based on no evidence.
But which is which? 
"The answer is that no-one here believes the parents were directly involved in MM's disappearance" - G-Unit.

Online Davel

Re: "no evidence" to support a theory missing girl Madeleine McCann is alive
« Reply #125 on: October 09, 2018, 05:49:17 PM »
Six months per ILOR is the suggested guide line CPS[not solely for Portugal].
All this has been done ad nauseam.
That's the system for you, it will not change simply because a few folk believe the McCanns are a special case.
It's also what you wind up with after political interference [David Cameron allowing himself to be shanghaied into overruling his Home Sec and head of MPS].

The original objective of O.G was:
"The investigative review is intended to collate, record and analyse what has gone before.
It is to examine the case and seek to determine, (as if the abduction occurred in the UK) what additional, new investigative approaches we would take and which can assist the Portuguese authorities in progressing the matter".
What ever they were they have not advanced the case much.

which supports my statement that SY are severely hampered because they cannot investigate in portugal...thank you
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Online Davel

Re: "no evidence" to support a theory missing girl Madeleine McCann is alive
« Reply #126 on: October 09, 2018, 05:49:57 PM »
Davel investigating in Portugal may be difficult and more long winded but not impossible as you say.

"Their restriction has been they cannot investigate in Portugal"

They can and are investigating in Portugal.

Try reading alice's post
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Online Eleanor

Re: "no evidence" to support a theory missing girl Madeleine McCann is alive
« Reply #127 on: October 09, 2018, 05:51:16 PM »
Wasnít it suggested in  PJís question  #41  that the parents had discussed handing Madeleine over to others ?

There is absolutely no evidence to suggest that this true.

Offline G-Unit

Re: "no evidence" to support a theory missing girl Madeleine McCann is alive
« Reply #128 on: October 09, 2018, 05:57:48 PM »
Their restriction has been they cannot investigate in Portugal

I think they must have known that before they started.
No-one here believes the parents were directly involved in MM's disappearance because belief without evidence is useless.

Offline Faithlilly

Re: "no evidence" to support a theory missing girl Madeleine McCann is alive
« Reply #129 on: October 09, 2018, 05:59:28 PM »
There is absolutely no evidence to suggest that this true.

Itís a strange thing to pluck out of the air if there is no truth to it.

Offline jassi

Re: "no evidence" to support a theory missing girl Madeleine McCann is alive
« Reply #130 on: October 09, 2018, 06:05:01 PM »
Itís a strange thing to pluck out of the air if there is no truth to it.

Perhaps there is evidence  not in the public domain, that prompted the question.
I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -   Into year 13 and still no solution.

Offline Sunny

Re: "no evidence" to support a theory missing girl Madeleine McCann is alive
« Reply #131 on: October 09, 2018, 06:07:50 PM »
Try reading alice's post

Alice quoted this

It is to examine the case and seek to determine, (as if the abduction occurred in the UK) what additional, new investigative approaches we would take and which can assist the Portuguese authorities in progressing the matter".


How do you carry out "investigative approaches" without investigating Davel?  Alice/s quote does not say this "Their restriction has been they cannot investigate in Portugal"
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Online Davel

Re: "no evidence" to support a theory missing girl Madeleine McCann is alive
« Reply #132 on: October 09, 2018, 06:10:37 PM »
I think they must have known that before they started.

I'm sure they did... I was responding to angelos post that that they were investigating with both their hands behind their back.... I pointed out that the biggest restriction is the one that limits their ability to investigate in portugal
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Offline Alice Purjorick

Re: "no evidence" to support a theory missing girl Madeleine McCann is alive
« Reply #133 on: October 09, 2018, 06:10:48 PM »
which supports my statement that SY are severely hampered because they cannot investigate in portugal...thank you

Everyone knew that before O.G. started. They would have been civilians in Portugal with no powers so it is hardly an earth shattering revelation 11 years down the track is it now?
The scuttlebutt at the time among supporters was " just you wait, SY, a real police force, will go through it like a dose of salts" etc. It would seem that did not occur. Rather predictably it didn't happen and the blame is now being placed on the system.
We had much ado about 130 odd leads identified. What's the excuse over that seemingly having gone nowhere fast?
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Online Eleanor

Re: "no evidence" to support a theory missing girl Madeleine McCann is alive
« Reply #134 on: October 09, 2018, 06:11:03 PM »
IYO, don't forget  ?{)(**

It is so often what you don't say that matters.