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Offline Holly Goodhead

Re: Who killed Bambi ?
« Reply #105 on: December 18, 2018, 03:56:52 PM »
Why an earth would the police have a hunch that Nevill had not rang Jeremy at 3am & said 'please come over, Sheila's gone crazy & she's got the gun' ?

Surprised Nevill said 'the gun'.

What gun ? There were several at WHF. Including shot guns. Massive difference between a shot gun & a rifle for shooting rabbits.

It was a rifle Sheila used, not a gun . It was also the rifle Jeremy had used earlier that evening.

It would not have taken any longer for Nevill to say 'she's picked up the rifle you left out'.

As it happened Jeremy was very perceptive & instantly assummed the 'gun' Nevill was referring to was actually a rifle for shooting rabbits he had left out.

Anthony Arlidge referred to the rifle as a shotgun during the trial so I don't think anything can be read into the terminology used no more than it can be inferred a second moderator was introduced into proceedings on the basis the one used to convict JB was referred to as silencer and sound moderator simultaneously. 

The CoA doc refers to the murder weapon as a rifle and gun:

13. The rifle was a .22 Anshutz automatic rifle. Together with a Parker Hale sound moderator (silencer) and telescopic sights, it had been bought by Nevill Bamber on 30 November 1984. 500 rounds of ammunition had also been purchased. There was evidence that the gun was used to shoot rabbits and would only ever be used with the sound moderator and the telescopic sights attached. A screwdriver was required to remove the telescopic sights but there was evidence that this was not normally done because of the time it took to realign them.

Throughout the doc the murder weapon is referred to as 'rifle' and 'gun'.  A rifle is technically a gun.
Just my opinion of course but Jeremy Bamber is innocent and a couple from UK, unknown to T9, abducted Madeleine McCann - motive unknown.  Was J J murdered as a result of identifying as a goth?

Offline Holly Goodhead

Re: Who killed Bambi ?
« Reply #106 on: December 18, 2018, 04:11:16 PM »
AE also refers to the murder weapon as a 'rifle' and a 'gun'. 

http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=1053.0;attach=2199
Just my opinion of course but Jeremy Bamber is innocent and a couple from UK, unknown to T9, abducted Madeleine McCann - motive unknown.  Was J J murdered as a result of identifying as a goth?

Offline APRIL

Re: Who killed Bambi ?
« Reply #107 on: December 18, 2018, 04:20:52 PM »
AE also refers to the murder weapon as a 'rifle' and a 'gun'. 

http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=1053.0;attach=2199

It's generally accepted that "gun" is the generic term for a fire-arm, as "Hoover" is the generic term for a vacuum cleaner.

Offline Myster

Re: Who killed Bambi ?
« Reply #108 on: December 18, 2018, 05:34:46 PM »
It's generally accepted that "gun" is the generic term for a fire-arm, as "Hoover" is the generic term for a vacuum cleaner.
Not any more... I dysoned the carpet this afternoon.  8((()*/

... but I suppose you could also vax it... or henry it ... or... ?
It's one of them cases, in'it... one of them f*ckin' cases.

Offline APRIL

Re: Who killed Bambi ?
« Reply #109 on: December 18, 2018, 05:40:48 PM »
Not any more... I dysoned the carpet this afternoon.  8((()*/

... but I suppose you could also vax it... or henry it ... or... ?

Indeed you could  $6(&

Offline Myster

Re: Who killed Bambi ?
« Reply #110 on: December 18, 2018, 06:06:58 PM »
Indeed you could  $6(&
Shhh... Don't tell anybody, but Holly still ewbanks her carpet ! 
It's one of them cases, in'it... one of them f*ckin' cases.

Offline APRIL

Re: Who killed Bambi ?
« Reply #111 on: December 18, 2018, 06:16:23 PM »
Shhh... Don't tell anybody, but Holly still ewbanks her carpet !


With it's modern counterpart, the Hoky, perhaps?

Offline Myster

Re: Who killed Bambi ?
« Reply #112 on: December 18, 2018, 06:20:27 PM »

With it's modern counterpart, the Hoky, perhaps?
Had to google that one !  @)(++(*
It's one of them cases, in'it... one of them f*ckin' cases.

Offline Caroline

Re: Who killed Bambi ?
« Reply #113 on: December 18, 2018, 08:09:55 PM »
I prefer the idea of forensic science used to catch criminals not a prosecution built on hunches with fabricated evidence and unreliable testimony.

But your don't have any forensic evidence to back you 'hunch' that Julie et al were all coerced into making statements.

Offline Caroline

Re: Who killed Bambi ?
« Reply #114 on: December 18, 2018, 08:14:40 PM »
It's generally accepted that "gun" is the generic term for a fire-arm, as "Hoover" is the generic term for a vacuum cleaner.

Think Holly is leading you into that one April but most people interchange rifle and gun. I think the point Adam was making is that Jeremy was specific with 'the' - almost like he had the notion of THE gun in his head already!

Offline Holly Goodhead

Re: Who killed Bambi ?
« Reply #115 on: December 18, 2018, 08:31:37 PM »
But your don't have any forensic evidence to back you 'hunch' that Julie et al were all coerced into making statements.

No one's liberty rests on what I post.  JB's liberty/incarceration is based primarily on the silencer evidence and to a lesser degree JM's testimony.

Just my opinion of course but Jeremy Bamber is innocent and a couple from UK, unknown to T9, abducted Madeleine McCann - motive unknown.  Was J J murdered as a result of identifying as a goth?

Offline Holly Goodhead

Re: Who killed Bambi ?
« Reply #116 on: December 18, 2018, 08:36:55 PM »
Think Holly is leading you into that one April but most people interchange rifle and gun. I think the point Adam was making is that Jeremy was specific with 'the' - almost like he had the notion of THE gun in his head already!

Based on JB's early WS: "Sheilas gone crazy shes got the gun" what word could NB/JB substitute for "the"? 

Just my opinion of course but Jeremy Bamber is innocent and a couple from UK, unknown to T9, abducted Madeleine McCann - motive unknown.  Was J J murdered as a result of identifying as a goth?

Offline APRIL

Re: Who killed Bambi ?
« Reply #117 on: December 18, 2018, 08:44:04 PM »
Think Holly is leading you into that one April but most people interchange rifle and gun. I think the point Adam was making is that Jeremy was specific with 'the' - almost like he had the notion of THE gun in his head already!

I think it was a Freudian slip.  It's highly likely the "THE" gun referenced the one which was on his mind, ie the gun he said he claimed to have taken on a futile bunny bashing foray and claimed he'd left in a prominent enough position for Sheila to see. In a house which was home to a multitude of different fire-arms, why would one be specific enough to be "THE" gun.


Yeah, That's what I reckoned 8((()*/

Offline Caroline

Re: Who killed Bambi ?
« Reply #118 on: December 18, 2018, 08:53:13 PM »
Based on JB's early WS: "Sheilas gone crazy shes got the gun" what word could NB/JB substitute for "the"?

'A' gun being as he's not supposed to know which gun she has.

Offline Caroline

Re: Who killed Bambi ?
« Reply #119 on: December 18, 2018, 08:54:51 PM »
No one's liberty rests on what I post.  JB's liberty/incarceration is based primarily on the silencer evidence and to a lesser degree JM's testimony.

You're the one who brought up preferring evidence to hunches - but you use them yourself. We all do.