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Offline G-Unit

Re: What is 'science'
« Reply #405 on: November 27, 2018, 07:11:41 PM »
What does cause lung cancer then?

I have no idea, but would guess it's a mixture of things.
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Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: What is 'science'
« Reply #406 on: November 27, 2018, 07:16:50 PM »
I have no idea, but would guess it's a mixture of things.
You have no idea but don’t accept smoking is a cause of lung cancer.  I see.
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Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: What is 'science'
« Reply #407 on: November 27, 2018, 07:20:27 PM »
Kindly point to any post I have made during this discussion where I have claimed smoking is the ONLY cause of lung cancer.  Quite the reverse  - I have repeatedly said that it is not.  Please amend your post accordingly.  Carry on smoking, I fully approve of you doing so, just so long as it’s nowhere near me or any members of my family.
G-Unit, did you do as I asked?  If not, why not?
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: What is 'science'
« Reply #408 on: November 27, 2018, 07:21:21 PM »
I have no idea, but would guess it's a mixture of things.

As I pointed out you are ignoring the evidence and think you know better than all the experts.... Perhaps it's just that  you don't understand what is being said
Smoking causes lung cancer...it may not be the only cause but it certainly causes lung cancer
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: What is 'science'
« Reply #409 on: November 27, 2018, 07:37:35 PM »
I have no idea, but would guess it's a mixture of things.

It's amazing... Doll followed 40,000 doctors over 20 years.... And you ...guess... He's wrong

Offline G-Unit

Re: What is 'science'
« Reply #410 on: November 27, 2018, 08:50:46 PM »
You have no idea but don’t accept smoking is a cause of lung cancer.  I see.

One of the contributing factors in some people possibly. 'The' cause? No.
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Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: What is 'science'
« Reply #411 on: November 27, 2018, 09:00:09 PM »
One of the contributing factors in some people possibly. 'The' cause? No.
Once again you seem to be suggesting that I and all scientists have claimed that smoking is the only cause of lung cancer.  Why do you keep doing this?
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Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: What is 'science'
« Reply #412 on: November 27, 2018, 09:00:44 PM »
G-Unit, did you do as I asked?  If not, why not?
Well?
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: What is 'science'
« Reply #413 on: November 27, 2018, 09:35:52 PM »
One of the contributing factors in some people possibly. 'The' cause? No.

you may as well be saying the earth is flat.... you clearly don't understand the evidence re smoking and cancer...its not just lung cancer.
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Offline Alice Purjorick

Re: What is 'science'
« Reply #414 on: November 27, 2018, 09:41:38 PM »
There is a very non pc emoticon with a ciggie  in its mouth on the panel of emoticons. @)(++(*
I've seen patients having to use oxygen getting out of their beds to go to the smoking areas in hospital, before the total ban was enforced. *%87

That demonstrates rather poor training and supervision on someone's part.
Maybe you didn't mean it how it sounds?
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: What is 'science'
« Reply #415 on: November 27, 2018, 09:44:58 PM »
That demonstrates rather poor training and supervision on someone's part.
Maybe you didn't mean it how it sounds?

It doesn't represent poor training
It's impossible to forbid a person to smoke

Offline G-Unit

Re: What is 'science'
« Reply #416 on: November 27, 2018, 10:10:46 PM »
you may as well be saying the earth is flat.... you clearly don't understand the evidence re smoking and cancer...its not just lung cancer.

I understand that 'science' has different levels of reliability, evidence isn't proof and correlation isn't cause.  8)-)))
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Offline Alice Purjorick

Re: What is 'science'
« Reply #417 on: November 27, 2018, 10:25:42 PM »
It doesn't represent poor training
It's impossible to forbid a person to smoke


I didn't say it was possible to stop someone smoking
If someone is wandering about using ambulatory oxygen or LTOT with a fag on in a hospital, as intimated, it demonstrates a poor level of training and/or supervision/enforcement.

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Offline Mr Gray

Re: What is 'science'
« Reply #418 on: November 27, 2018, 10:29:14 PM »
I understand that 'science' has different levels of reliability, evidence isn't proof and correlation isn't cause.  8)-)))
it is an accepted FACT that smoking causes lung cancer... This is not my opinion but the opinion of the whole scientific  community
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: What is 'science'
« Reply #419 on: November 27, 2018, 10:30:20 PM »


I didn't say it was possible to stop someone smoking
If someone is wandering about using ambulatory oxygen or LTOT with a fag on in a hospital, as intimated, it demonstrates a poor level of training and/or supervision/enforcement.

No one suggested that... Look at the post again