Seems woke and wandered back in favour again.

[pathfinder73]

The forum has looked extensively both at smudges on the shutters and at the positioning of Kate's fingerprints on the window which are commensurate not of her opening the window but of leaning against it for support as she leaned out.

The three quotes below are from a member who believed the 'woke and wandered' theory and who made an excellent case for it ... whether one agrees with it or not.



When the window is at maximum (50%) open position, looking from inside, the right pane is slid left so it covers the left pane. Have you not watched the video demonstration in Amaral's film?
http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=1868.msg258650#msg258650
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The 5 KM prints were all located on the
"Lado interior do vidro da janela"
"Interior surface of the glass of the window"
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/P4/04_VOLUME_IVa_Page_884a.jpg
http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=1868.msg259170#msg259170
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Prints were due to placing left hand for support while leaning to look out the already open window.
http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=1868.msg271937#msg271937

She never admitted touching the window in 2007 in any of her statements so to change her mind years after to explain how her fingerprints got there wouldn't wash with investigators LOL. Kate should have answered all of their questions in 2007 not after the files were released when they had access to what the police know. Another fine mess!

"The window in Madeleine's room remained closed, but she doesn't know if it was locked, blinds and curtains drawn. The window remained like this since the first day, night and day. She never opened it."
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/KATE-MCCANN_ARGUIDO.htm

[Sunny]

She never admitted touching the window in 2007 in any of her statements so to change her mind years after to explain how her fingerprints got there wouldn't wash with investigators LOL. Kate should have answered all of their questions in 2007 not after the files were released when they had access to what the police know. Another fine mess!

"The window in Madeleine's room remained closed, but she doesn't know if it was locked, blinds and curtains drawn. The window remained like this since the first day, night and day. She never opened it."
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/KATE-MCCANN_ARGUIDO.htm

Brietta's last cite concerning Kate McCann's fingers on the window was simply a quote from a poster on here called pegasus who was only giving their opinion.

[Montclair]

Another article today from Tracey in the Sun:

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/7828725/madeleine-mccann-parents-slam-claims-she-wasnt-kidnapped/

[Alice Purjorick]

No smelly, swarthy abductorman.  How can that be ?

Swarthy smelly bin/abductorman fluent in English.
There's one behind every tree and lighting column on the Algarve don't you know!

[slartibartfast]

Another article today from Tracey in the Sun:

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/7828725/madeleine-mccann-parents-slam-claims-she-wasnt-kidnapped/

That’s quite scary really.

[Mr Gray]

That’s quite scary really.

Not at all.. Makes perfect sense

[G-Unit]

That’s quite scary really.

Scary for the McCanns because of those shutters, the window and the moving door. The woke and wandered theory calls all that into question. I see the dogs are there again. Are toes being dipped into murky waters to see if Carter-Ruck are still on the job?

[Alice Purjorick]

That’s quite scary really.

Or comedic!
What's with the "heavy shutters" routine then?
The rollyupanddown curtain bit is unlikely to be more than 4 or 5 kilogrammes per m²
I suppose it depends on the definition of heavy that one relies.
Then of course the CDA for raising will have somekind of built in mechanical advantage.

[Sunny]

Scary for the McCanns because of those shutters, the window and the moving door. The woke and wandered theory calls all that into question. I see the dogs are there again. Are toes being dipped into murky waters to see if Carter-Ruck are still on the job?

And now they appear to believe that Scotland Yard are insulting them ...

[barrier]

Still locked in a long legal battle with Amaral I see.

Brilliant article,still at least there is no denying the provenance of the woke and wandered theory being explored, abductor what abductor.

[faithlilly]

And now they appear to believe that Scotland Yard are insulting them ...

And the circle is closed.

If OG is considering woke and wandered surely the McCanns would have been informed of it at the Rothley meeting we were informed of last week ? They are said to be furious that this theory is being considered yet last week we were informed they were ‘delighted’ that there was still leads to be pursued.

My take on it. Get a couple of compliant journalists. One is given the task of writing about the ‘Brits’ considering the woke and wandered theory ( they’re not ), the other to write the follow up article maligning the theory and undermining the work and competency of the British investigation. Do you see a pattern?

For me the Sun article today is the most significant as it is the first time in 7 years the parents have personally vocalised their displeasure in the investigation and not through any old journalist, liable to twist their words but by a journalist we know is particularly close to Kate.

That fat lady certainly can belt out a brilliant tune !

[barrier]

And now they appear to believe that Scotland Yard are insulting them ...

They don't appear to be buoyed by them.

[Mr Gray]

And now they appear to believe that Scotland Yard are insulting them ...

Do you still believe what you read in the papers

[Alice Purjorick]

Still locked in a long legal battle with Amaral I see.

Brilliant article,still at least there is no denying the provenance of the woke and wandered theory being explored, abductor what abductor.

No mention of twice being duffed up in court over the nasty book.
One day The Sun says [fill in as appropriate]. The next day The Sun says [fill in the opposite to yesterday's article.]

The scary bit is that someone writes this for good cash money and has the right to vote.

[Brietta]

She never admitted touching the window in 2007 in any of her statements so to change her mind years after to explain how her fingerprints got there wouldn't wash with investigators LOL. Kate should have answered all of their questions in 2007 not after the files were released when they had access to what the police know. Another fine mess!

"The window in Madeleine's room remained closed, but she doesn't know if it was locked, blinds and curtains drawn. The window remained like this since the first day, night and day. She never opened it."
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/KATE-MCCANN_ARGUIDO.htm

There was no requirement for anyone opening the window to touch the glass as has been noted on numerous occasions and as demonstrated on the Amaral video ...

If the window is closed and locked, here is how to open it from inside
http://youtu.be/nTNXowdzksI?t=8m52s
8:54 hold handle with left hand and press the lower (unlock) button with left thumb.
8:57 slide that half of the window open.
No fingers touch the glass.
http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=1868.msg272005#msg272005