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Offline Sunny

Re: Seems woke and wandered back in favour again.
« Reply #345 on: November 28, 2018, 09:18:11 PM »
The accounts of the staff don't come anywhere near matching the accounts of the group, however.

Do we know who the people that the waiting staff saw leave the table were? If not then they could be seeing the same person leave.
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Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: Seems woke and wandered back in favour again.
« Reply #346 on: November 28, 2018, 10:01:38 PM »
The accounts of the staff don't come anywhere near matching the accounts of the group, however.
Do we know who is right and who is wrong? Were all the staff watching the table continuously, making note of the times individuals left?
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Offline Robittybob1

Re: Seems woke and wandered back in favour again.
« Reply #347 on: November 28, 2018, 10:04:32 PM »
Do we know who is right and who is wrong? Were all the staff watching the table continuously, making note of the times individuals left?
Don't think so and they didn't seem to know who is who.
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Offline Alice Purjorick

Re: Seems woke and wandered back in favour again.
« Reply #348 on: November 28, 2018, 10:21:24 PM »
Don't think so and they didn't seem to know who is who.

And you really ought to kerknow werhoo's werhoo?
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Offline Robittybob1

Re: Seems woke and wandered back in favour again.
« Reply #349 on: November 28, 2018, 10:30:45 PM »
And you really ought to kerknow werhoo's werhoo?
I tend to think so.  If you want to make a case.  Maybe it was impossible to refute the Tapas 9 claims of regular checking of the kids.  You would wonder why a burglar of a child kidnapper would chance it considering there was some one coming or going a lot of the time.
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Offline G-Unit

Re: Seems woke and wandered back in favour again.
« Reply #350 on: November 28, 2018, 10:42:12 PM »
Do we know who is right and who is wrong? Were all the staff watching the table continuously, making note of the times individuals left?

They clearly weren't, but it was you who suggested they saw all the comings and goings.

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So the waiting staff at the Tapas restaurant imagined all the comings and goings of the parents that night did they?
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Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: Seems woke and wandered back in favour again.
« Reply #351 on: November 28, 2018, 10:48:19 PM »
They clearly weren't, but it was you who suggested they saw all the comings and goings.

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So the waiting staff at the Tapas restaurant imagined all the comings and goings of the parents that night did they?
http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=10478.msg505497#msg505497
I think again you misunderstand.  Did the staff at the Tapas restaurant imagine all the comings and goings they reported seeing that night is what I meant, not that they reported seeing ALL comings and goings.
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Offline G-Unit

Re: Seems woke and wandered back in favour again.
« Reply #352 on: November 28, 2018, 10:59:50 PM »
I think again you misunderstand.  Did the staff at the Tapas restaurant imagine all the comings and goings they reported seeing that night is what I meant, not that they reported seeing ALL comings and goings.

Oh, sorry. I took your first post to be an assertion that the staff saw checks being done every 30 minutes.
http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=10478.msg505441#msg505441

None of them mentioned all the checks or their frequency, just their duration. 
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Offline Alice Purjorick

Re: Seems woke and wandered back in favour again.
« Reply #353 on: November 28, 2018, 11:02:07 PM »
I tend to think so.  If you want to make a case.  Maybe it was impossible to refute the Tapas 9 claims of regular checking of the kids. You would wonder why a burglar of a child kidnapper would chance it considering there was some one coming or going a lot of the time.

That thought had occurred to me. Especially as in some quarters it is considered the place was under observation.
Maybe it was a dare to see if it could be effected at the time when they were most likely to be caught?
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Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: Seems woke and wandered back in favour again.
« Reply #354 on: November 28, 2018, 11:16:15 PM »
Oh, sorry. I took your first post to be an assertion that the staff saw checks being done every 30 minutes.
http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=10478.msg505441#msg505441

None of them mentioned all the checks or their frequency, just their duration.
The staff between reported seeing at least 3 individuals leaving the table over the course of the 90minutes.  Given that the tapas group claimed to be chrcking on their children every 30 minutes, is it wholly unreasonable to assume that at least 3 longish absences from the table during a period of 90 minutes equals roughly 30 minute interval checks, and if doesn’t then what does it suggest was actually going on instead?
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Offline Sunny

Re: Seems woke and wandered back in favour again.
« Reply #355 on: November 29, 2018, 06:52:37 AM »
The staff between reported seeing at least 3 individuals leaving the table over the course of the 90minutes.  Given that the tapas group claimed to be chrcking on their children every 30 minutes, is it wholly unreasonable to assume that at least 3 longish absences from the table during a period of 90 minutes equals roughly 30 minute interval checks, and if doesn’t then what does it suggest was actually going on instead?

Actually yes VS.    Three people were seen leaving the table that is all you can infer from their statements, nothing more, unless you have the times that they left.
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Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: Seems woke and wandered back in favour again.
« Reply #356 on: November 29, 2018, 07:09:15 AM »
Actually yes VS.    Three people were seen leaving the table that is all you can infer from their statements, nothing more, unless you have the times that they left.
We have the statements of the Tapas group themselves that lend credence to the waiters testimony.  Coincidence?
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Offline slartibartfast

Re: Seems woke and wandered back in favour again.
« Reply #357 on: November 29, 2018, 07:27:51 AM »
Oh, sorry. I took your first post to be an assertion that the staff saw checks being done every 30 minutes.
http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=10478.msg505441#msg505441

None of them mentioned all the checks or their frequency, just their duration.

Duration of absence from the table.
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Offline Sunny

Re: Seems woke and wandered back in favour again.
« Reply #358 on: November 29, 2018, 07:41:59 AM »
We have the statements of the Tapas group themselves that lend credence to the waiters testimony.  Coincidence?

Well we have statements from the tapas group saying that more than 3 left the table so make of that what you will.
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Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: Seems woke and wandered back in favour again.
« Reply #359 on: November 29, 2018, 07:56:59 AM »
Well we have statements from the tapas group saying that more than 3 left the table so make of that what you will.
Do you think they all left at thr same time, or at intervals during the 90 minutes?
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