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Offline G-Unit

Re: Seems woke and wandered back in favour again.
« Reply #675 on: December 08, 2018, 02:29:36 PM »
Could you cite the dog handlers view on the dogs tracking... As John said Maddie followed this route everday so it could have been a scent left previously... If anything

I can cite the handler's evidence. I'm afraid John mat be mistaken because according to her father she exited via the patio doors and down the steps onto R Fransisco G Martins twice every day. Only two exceptions were mentioned when they all used the front door. One of these being when the children 'ran away' and were taken down the passageway afterwards. This was only mentioned after the dogs followed that route, however.

it can be confirmed with a certain degree of certainty that the missing child passed by that location, on that day or on a previous day.
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: Seems woke and wandered back in favour again.
« Reply #676 on: December 08, 2018, 02:32:13 PM »
I can cite the handler's evidence. I'm afraid John mat be mistaken because according to her father she exited via the patio doors and down the steps onto R Fransisco G Martins twice every day. Only two exceptions were mentioned when they all used the front door. One of these being when the children 'ran away' and were taken down the passageway afterwards. This was only mentioned after the dogs followed that route, however.

it can be confirmed with a certain degree of certainty that the missing child passed by that location, on that day or on a previous day.
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/ANTONIO_SILVA.htm

As I said.... The trail could have been from a previous day according to the handler yet you claimed it was unexplained

Offline G-Unit

Re: Seems woke and wandered back in favour again.
« Reply #677 on: December 08, 2018, 03:24:20 PM »
As I said.... The trail could have been from a previous day according to the handler yet you claimed it was unexplained

And as I said the only testimony placing Madeleine in that area was given by her father after the dogs had been deployed.

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Offline Mr Gray

Re: Seems woke and wandered back in favour again.
« Reply #678 on: December 08, 2018, 03:36:45 PM »
And as I said the only testimony placing Madeleine in that area was given by her father after the dogs had been deployed.

So it's possible that if it was maddies scent the dog followed it could have been from a previous day

Offline Robittybob1

Re: Seems woke and wandered back in favour again.
« Reply #679 on: December 08, 2018, 05:47:31 PM »
Police tracker dogs are generally extremely good at what they do. It matters little whether the second dog simply followed the first dog as suggested by its handler. The fact that the first dog locked onto Madeleine's scent and was able to follow it around the block is compelling as a barefooted child would have been very easy to follow.

As for the Sun story being fiction, I know for a fact it is true and that the Portuguese police are indeed actively investigating the possibility that Madeleine let herself out of apartment 5a and met with an accident in the street outside.
There was only around 30 meters of footpath from the lane to the secondary gate.  What are the chances of an accident?  IMO the chances of an accident increase if for any reason the Tapas entrance door was closed at any stage coinciding with Madeleine's attempt to get to the table.
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Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: Seems woke and wandered back in favour again.
« Reply #680 on: December 08, 2018, 06:38:51 PM »
I wonder what Martin Grime makes of the woke and wandered theory, and the “compelling” evidence of the tracker dogs...
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Offline pathfinder73

Re: Seems woke and wandered back in favour again.
« Reply #681 on: December 08, 2018, 06:47:11 PM »
I can cite the handler's evidence. I'm afraid John mat be mistaken because according to her father she exited via the patio doors and down the steps onto R Fransisco G Martins twice every day. Only two exceptions were mentioned when they all used the front door. One of these being when the children 'ran away' and were taken down the passageway afterwards. This was only mentioned after the dogs followed that route, however.

it can be confirmed with a certain degree of certainty that the missing child passed by that location, on that day or on a previous day.
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/ANTONIO_SILVA.htm

Kate contradicts Gerry.

3 May 2007

"After breakfast they got dressed and left the apartment by the main door. All children went walking. The veranda door was closed and locked; she doesn't know whether the main door was locked or unlocked.

At the flat they both bathed the children, and close to 6:00PM Gerry went to the tennis courts, soon after the children had finished their bath. They entered the apartment by the main door, with the key. She does not know if it was locked, and presumes it was Gerry who opened it. At lunch time they also entered by the same door."

http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/KATE-MCCANN_ARGUIDO.htm

I believe she is correct. It is safer to leave and return with 3 young children via the pathway to the main key door.
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Smithman carrying a child in his arms checked his watch after passing the Smith family and the time was 10:03. Both are still unidentified 10 years later.

Offline Angelo222

Re: Seems woke and wandered back in favour again.
« Reply #682 on: December 08, 2018, 07:33:19 PM »
So it's possible that if it was maddies scent the dog followed it could have been from a previous day

Explain why it terminated at the lamppost opposite mini reception then and didn't go all the way to the juniors club?
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Offline Angelo222

Re: Seems woke and wandered back in favour again.
« Reply #683 on: December 08, 2018, 07:36:43 PM »
There was only around 30 meters of footpath from the lane to the secondary gate.  What are the chances of an accident?  IMO the chances of an accident increase if for any reason the Tapas entrance door was closed at any stage coinciding with Madeleine's attempt to get to the table.

Maybe she ran out from the path which skirts block 5 and ran across the road right in front of a car?
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Offline Angelo222

Re: Seems woke and wandered back in favour again.
« Reply #684 on: December 08, 2018, 07:38:00 PM »
I would still have every sympathy for them... But I don't believe it happened and I doubt it's being investigated

Is that wishful thinking per chance?
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Offline Brietta

Re: Seems woke and wandered back in favour again.
« Reply #685 on: December 08, 2018, 07:43:28 PM »

What evidence - there isn't any apart from g k mcs say so.

How many times is it necessary to provide links to the fact that the PJ and SY have been investigating Madeleine McCann's abduction since 2013 when both opened the active re-investigation into her case?

In my opinion ignoring already well documented cites does absolutely zero for rational discussion on any aspect of the case neither does it bring anything to the forum except perhaps damaging credibility.
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Offline faithlilly

Re: Seems woke and wandered back in favour again.
« Reply #686 on: December 08, 2018, 07:50:08 PM »
How many times is it necessary to provide links to the fact that the PJ and SY have been investigating Madeleine McCann's abduction since 2013 when both opened the active re-investigation into her case?

In my opinion ignoring already well documented cites does absolutely zero for rational discussion on any aspect of the case neither does it bring anything to the forum except perhaps damaging credibility.

The remit in your signature, was it for the review or the investigation?
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: Seems woke and wandered back in favour again.
« Reply #687 on: December 08, 2018, 07:55:20 PM »
Explain why it terminated at the lamppost opposite mini reception then and didn't go all the way to the juniors club?

Explain why knowing about this evidence the archiving despatch rated woke and wandered highly unlikely

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Seems woke and wandered back in favour again.
« Reply #688 on: December 08, 2018, 07:55:58 PM »
Is that wishful thinking per chance?

No it's based on the evidence

Offline barrier

Re: Seems woke and wandered back in favour again.
« Reply #689 on: December 08, 2018, 07:57:12 PM »
Explain why knowing about this evidence the archiving despatch rated woke and wandered highly unlikely


If something new came to light?
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