Author Topic: Seems woke and wandered back in favour again.  (Read 220733 times)

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Offline barrier

Re: Seems woke and wandered back in favour again.
« Reply #1215 on: June 08, 2019, 05:02:33 PM »
No ... DCI Redwood was of the opinion Dr Totman was "almost certainly" the man seen by Jane Tanner ... which imo was a highly significant thing to say.

No,DCI Redwood never mentioned any one by name.
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Offline John

Re: Seems woke and wandered back in favour again.
« Reply #1216 on: June 08, 2019, 05:02:42 PM »

According to Rob a key is needed.

The snib on the lock is tapered to allow it to be pulled closed. To DEAD LOCK it from the outside you need the key.
« Last Edit: June 08, 2019, 05:16:24 PM by John »
A malicious prosecution for a crime which never existed. An exposé of egregious malfeasance by public officials.
Indeed, the truth never changes with the passage of time.

Offline Brietta

Re: Seems woke and wandered back in favour again.
« Reply #1217 on: June 08, 2019, 05:06:00 PM »

According to Rob a key is needed.

John is familiar with the type of shutter used in 5A ... he is also familiar with the type of lock there too.  Rob is familiar with neither.  So forgive me if my money is on what John has posted ... which should be kept in mind for future reference ... particularly as I am almost certain he has posted the information before.
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline John

Re: Seems woke and wandered back in favour again.
« Reply #1218 on: June 08, 2019, 05:07:07 PM »
So as a hotel apartment, with the front door having 2 locks, the keys will both be on the same fob, but really, you only need to pull the door to?

Absolutely. If the patio door was locked and you walked out the front door pulling it closed behind you, then you are effectively locked out if you left the key inside.
A malicious prosecution for a crime which never existed. An exposé of egregious malfeasance by public officials.
Indeed, the truth never changes with the passage of time.

Offline Brietta

Re: Seems woke and wandered back in favour again.
« Reply #1219 on: June 08, 2019, 05:08:19 PM »
No,DCI Redwood never mentioned any one by name.

I know that ... but we all know to whom he was referring ... do we not?
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline barrier

Re: Seems woke and wandered back in favour again.
« Reply #1220 on: June 08, 2019, 05:22:41 PM »
I know that ... but we all know to whom he was referring ... do we not?

According to the press,but what do they know.
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Offline barrier

Re: Seems woke and wandered back in favour again.
« Reply #1221 on: June 08, 2019, 05:25:29 PM »
He probably didn't notice.  It wasn't his apartment.

Good excuse for not checking on Madeleine one supposes.
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Offline The General

Re: Seems woke and wandered back in favour again.
« Reply #1222 on: June 08, 2019, 05:28:18 PM »
Absolutely. If the patio door was locked and you walked out the front door pulling it closed behind you, then you are effectively locked out if you left the key inside.
It's an important fact. We have to assume that it wasn't deadlocked i.e. the mortice lock wasn't also locked. Hence it was determined that they would leave the patio door open as it was simply closer.
Jimmy the abductor didn't need to open any window in any of this.
« Last Edit: June 08, 2019, 05:32:47 PM by The General »
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Offline barrier

Re: Seems woke and wandered back in favour again.
« Reply #1223 on: June 08, 2019, 05:30:15 PM »
The snib on the lock is tapered to allow it to be pulled closed. To DEAD LOCK it from the outside you need the key.

So its entirely possible what I said earlier.

If you want a woke and wandered, the front door was left open by a burglar after disturbing Madeleine,she followed,the door then slammed shut just like the bedroom door did with Kate,simples.
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Offline Eleanor

Re: Seems woke and wandered back in favour again.
« Reply #1224 on: June 08, 2019, 05:43:07 PM »
Good excuse for not checking on Madeleine one supposes.

Hardly.  There was no crying or disturbance.  What was he supposed to be looking for?

Offline barrier

Re: Seems woke and wandered back in favour again.
« Reply #1225 on: June 08, 2019, 05:46:36 PM »
Hardly.  There was no crying or disturbance.  What was he supposed to be looking for?


Wouldn't have a clue,but common sense says making sure all's alright with the children,why else enter the apartment.
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Offline The General

Re: Seems woke and wandered back in favour again.
« Reply #1226 on: June 08, 2019, 05:47:12 PM »
There was a perfectly good car park right outside Madeleine's window ... why not use that?  Of course the fact it might have led to discovery either before or after the abduction is neither here nor there.

Parking further away or heading to nearby cover surely cuts the risk of a vehicle being noticed rather than parking right on top of the scene of the crime.
Park in the well lit, communal car park, walk in through the front door without a key.....or somehow, for reasons only known to themselves, pry the window.
Or.......park adjacent to the gate, by a dimly lit passage that is shrouded in foliage and is kerb side to the gate, pointing down hill, right next to the only unlocked access in the gaff.
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Offline The General

Re: Seems woke and wandered back in favour again.
« Reply #1227 on: June 08, 2019, 05:47:55 PM »
Hardly.  There was no crying or disturbance.  What was he supposed to be looking for?
3 kids?
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Offline Eleanor

Re: Seems woke and wandered back in favour again.
« Reply #1228 on: June 08, 2019, 05:48:28 PM »

Wouldn't have a clue,but common sense says making sure all's alright with the children,why else enter the apartment.

He didn't expect that Madeleine would have been abducted.  How very silly of him.

Offline barrier

Re: Seems woke and wandered back in favour again.
« Reply #1229 on: June 08, 2019, 05:48:45 PM »
Park in the well lit, communal car park, walk in through the front door without a key.....or somehow, for reasons only known to themselves, pry the window.
Or.......park adjacent to the gate, by a dimly lit passage that is shrouded in foliage and is kerb side to the gate, pointing down hill.

Out of the two,the second is most plausible imo.
This is my own private domicile and I shall not be harassed, biatch:Jesse Pinkman Character.