Seems woke and wandered back in favour again.

[barrier]

Exactly.

Why? place yourself in Jimmy's shoes,enter the bedroom, choice,over to the window and open it and shutters,snatch the girl and away,or enter the bedroom snatch the girl over to the window,put girl down open window and shutters and away,or snatch girl, off out the door,simples really.

So why would a woke and wandered be any more of a scenario than the above.

[Vertigo Swirl]

You meant the more difficult and time consuming of the two?

What?

[Vertigo Swirl]

Why? place yourself in Jimmy's shoes,enter the bedroom, choice,over to the window and open it and shutters,snatch the girl and away,or enter the bedroom snatch the girl over to the window,put girl down open window and shutters and away,or snatch girl, off out the door,simples really.

So why would a woke and wandered be any more of a scenario than the above.

How about enter the bedroom, open window and shutter first before picking up the girl?  Opening the shutter also allows a little bit of light into the room so you can see exactly where she is and how to pick her up.  Then do so and leave, perhaps with an accomplice on the other side of the window?

[Robittybob1]

Why? place yourself in Jimmy's shoes,enter the bedroom, choice,over to the window and open it and shutters,snatch the girl and away,or enter the bedroom snatch the girl over to the window,put girl down open window and shutters and away,or snatch girl, off out the door,simples really.

So why would a woke and wandered be any more of a scenario than the above.

There are more logical sequences than what you describe IMO.

[barrier]

There are more logical sequences than what you describe IMO.

Its a woke and wandered thread so go on.

[Robittybob1]

How about enter the bedroom, open window and shutter first before picking up the girl?  Opening the shutter also allows a little bit of light into the room so you can see exactly where she is and how to pick her up.  Then do so and leave, perhaps with an accomplice on the other side of the window?

Exactly- Jimmy might open the shutters and find that Madeleine wasn't even in the room.  She had woke and wandered!

[G-Unit]

How about enter the bedroom, open window and shutter first before picking up the girl?  Opening the shutter also allows a little bit of light into the room so you can see exactly where she is and how to pick her up.  Then do so and leave, perhaps with an accomplice on the other side of the window?

Raising the shutters was noisy. It would attract the attention of anyone nearby who was out of sight of Jimmy and his mate, not to mention the risk of wakening three children.

It was the previous occupant of G5A, Paul Gordon, who mentioned the noisy shutters. #
https://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/PAUL_GORDON.htm

[Robittybob1]

Raising the shutters was noisy. It would attract the attention of anyone nearby who was out of sight of Jimmy and his mate, not to mention the risk of wakening three children.

It was the previous occupant of G5A, Paul Gordon, who mentioned the noisy shutters. #
https://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/PAUL_GORDON.htm

So could we surmise  that whoever opened the shutters woke Madeleine up.

[barrier]

So could we surmise  that whoever opened the shutters woke Madeleine up.

You could,there again she might have already gone by then.

[Robittybob1]

You could,there again she might have already gone by then.

Who knows the truth?

[barrier]

Who knows the truth?

12 yrs on,its not been determined yet imo.

[Vertigo Swirl]

Raising the shutters was noisy. It would attract the attention of anyone nearby who was out of sight of Jimmy and his mate, not to mention the risk of wakening three children.

It was the previous occupant of G5A, Paul Gordon, who mentioned the noisy shutters. #
https://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/PAUL_GORDON.htm

How noisy is noisy?  Noisy inside the room or noisy outside the room?  Can the amount of noise be lessened by opening them more slowly and carefully?  Is the noise of opening shutters in Pdl likely to attract attention or is it a fairly commonplace sound like the passing of a car?  Did anyone notice the noise of Kate allegedly opening the shutters?  So what if the three kids awakened?  The abductor wouldn’t have been planning to stick around for long.  In any case they ddn’t wake up when their parents “tampered” with the shutters so does that mean they only said the window and shutters had been opened but they never  bothered to actually open them?

[G-Unit]

So could we surmise  that whoever opened the shutters woke Madeleine up.

No, because they were later closed, then raised again twice and the twins slept on. Abductors wouldn't have expected shildren to do that though., so imo it was a risk they wouldn't have taken.

[Vertigo Swirl]

No, because they were later closed, then raised again twice and the twins slept on. Abductors wouldn't have expected shildren to do that though., so imo it was a risk they wouldn't have taken.

You really cannot decide what a child abductor would and wouldn't do, IMO. 

[Angelo222]

You really cannot decide what a child abductor would and wouldn't do, IMO.

IMO, a child abductor would never contemplate abducting a child from a bedroom containing two other children given that they would probably scream the place down thus attracting attention.  Better the lone child, much easier to control the situation.