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Offline pathfinder73

Re: Seems woke and wandered back in favour again.
« Reply #1350 on: June 09, 2019, 09:06:08 PM »
No it wouldn't ... Gerry did it and no-one heard.  A retired policeman was filmed doing it ... didn't see anyone rushing to intervene.  A security guard saw it had been interfered with during his rounds ... but neither saw or heard anything.

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- Back at 5A of the Ocean Club, on 26 September someone forced up the external blinds of the front bedroom to an oblique angle. There appeared to be no attempt to force open the window. The security guard stated between 21:00 and 21:05 he had done the 'rounds' of the block, then walked down to the supermarket and back again whereupon he found the damage which he called in immediately. https://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/DCCB_LETTER.htm

There is no evidence of anybody passing through the window so raising the shutter makes no sense. It wastes time they wouldn't have and is too risky with sleeping children feet from it.
Smithman carrying a child in his arms checked his watch after passing the Smith family and the time was 10:03. Both are still unidentified 10 years later.

Offline Robittybob1

Re: Seems woke and wandered back in favour again.
« Reply #1351 on: June 09, 2019, 09:11:15 PM »
There is no evidence of anybody passing through the window so raising the shutter makes no sense. It wastes time they wouldn't have and is too risky with sleeping children feet from it.
All in your opinion.
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Offline barrier

Re: Seems woke and wandered back in favour again.
« Reply #1352 on: June 10, 2019, 06:17:18 AM »
All in your opinion.
The no evidence of leaving through the window is not opinion though is it? along with no evidence of any one leaving by any of the doors in the process of half inching the girl away.
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Offline Robittybob1

Re: Seems woke and wandered back in favour again.
« Reply #1353 on: June 10, 2019, 10:23:23 AM »
The no evidence of leaving through the window is not opinion though is it? along with no evidence of any one leaving by any of the doors in the process of half inching the girl away.
It was in the opinion of the PJ no one went through the window (either way).    We then discuss that opinion as a fact. 
Only the patio door was checked for finger prints.  Maybe it seemed a waste of time checking the front door by the time the PJ had arrived.
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Offline Miss Taken Identity

Re: Seems woke and wandered back in favour again.
« Reply #1354 on: June 10, 2019, 10:57:13 AM »
I know you don’t, you try your best avoid the juicy stuff.

There is nothing tedious about Gerry’s two versions of the last time he claims to have seen his child alive, IMO. You’re just going to have to get used to me harping on about it until they get their hands on Jimmy I’m afraid.

That YAWN response is the one that tells you, they have no argument to offer- no explanation. Just like the parents. it is only their mantra that get pushed out front by supporters. AND when they get really stuck they offer up an opinion to challenge what the parents were thinking ,or translation errors OR memory loss OR witness fatigue hahahahahaha
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Offline Eleanor

Re: Seems woke and wandered back in favour again.
« Reply #1355 on: June 10, 2019, 11:00:00 AM »
That YAWN response is the one that tells you, they have no argument to offer- no explanation. Just like the parents. it is only their mantra that get pushed out front by supporters. AND when they get really stuck they offer up an opinion to challenge what the parents were thinking ,or translation errors OR memory loss OR witness fatigue hahahahahaha

Meanwhile, you offer absolutely nothing at all.

Offline Miss Taken Identity

Re: Seems woke and wandered back in favour again.
« Reply #1356 on: June 10, 2019, 11:03:58 AM »
It was in the opinion of the PJ no one went through the window (either way).    We then discuss that opinion as a fact. 
Only the patio door was checked for finger prints.  Maybe it seemed a waste of time checking the front door by the time the PJ had arrived.


They looked for evidence on and near the shutters/ the window and that area.

There was no stranger fingerprints- or scuffmarks on the outside ,none on the outside of the window that had to be opened from the outside. Just fingerprints on the inside from the sole witness who made the claim of a window entry /exit with child...

Let us just be reminded - they went into the room- an alleged crime scene by a stranger- all ? what ?looking for what an abductor in the bedroom hiding under a cot? and then Gerry went and did his own investigaiton about the shutter...
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Offline Miss Taken Identity

Re: Seems woke and wandered back in favour again.
« Reply #1357 on: June 10, 2019, 11:06:33 AM »
Meanwhile, you offer absolutely nothing at all.

And that would be because I wasn't there!

 any other evidence I discuss gets deleted-

 too close to the truth perhaps? I don't know.
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Offline Miss Taken Identity

Re: Seems woke and wandered back in favour again.
« Reply #1358 on: June 10, 2019, 11:19:10 AM »
Meanwhile, you offer absolutely nothing at all.


However, I will give it a go...

IN MY MOST HUMBLE OPINION.

With The evidence presented in its entirety. The real reason the supporters and the Parents of the  left alone every night children and babies, is; they would have been charged, which they should have been anyway. They would have been public hate figures for being cruel selfish parents, they would have received zero sympathy -and all that JAZZ that they so enjoyed while their child allegedly suffered at the hands of a ‘suspected paedo gang’ would NOT have been afforded to them.
  It was only after the initial ‘discussion’ with the press that the real version of what happened and could not have happened came to light.  They never mentioned unlocked doors or leaving the children alone every night or that was the decision made BEFORE they even left the UK.
The parents turned the attention from them -onto the lazy lousy PJ.  Greattttttt PR… Poor Maddie collateral damage?

It would be very interesting if the police do actually find someone to testify MBM was abducted from the street- How will the parents deal with THAT publicity I wonder.

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Offline G-Unit

Re: Seems woke and wandered back in favour again.
« Reply #1359 on: June 10, 2019, 11:44:40 AM »

However, I will give it a go...

IN MY MOST HUMBLE OPINION.

With The evidence presented in its entirety. The real reason the supporters and the Parents of the  left alone every night children and babies, is; they would have been charged, which they should have been anyway. They would have been public hate figures for being cruel selfish parents, they would have received zero sympathy -and all that JAZZ that they so enjoyed while their child allegedly suffered at the hands of a ‘suspected paedo gang’ would NOT have been afforded to them.
  It was only after the initial ‘discussion’ with the press that the real version of what happened and could not have happened came to light.  They never mentioned unlocked doors or leaving the children alone every night or that was the decision made BEFORE they even left the UK.
The parents turned the attention from them -onto the lazy lousy PJ.  Greattttttt PR… Poor Maddie collateral damage?

It would be very interesting if the police do actually find someone to testify MBM was abducted from the street- How will the parents deal with THAT publicity I wonder.

Perhaps Kate will have to admit that she did indeed make a mistake,

"... I'm sure people will learn from our mistake, if you want to call it that."
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/1559517/Madeleine-McCanns-mother-recalls-last-chat.html
 

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Offline ShiningInLuz

Re: Seems woke and wandered back in favour again.
« Reply #1360 on: June 10, 2019, 11:48:37 AM »

However, I will give it a go...

IN MY MOST HUMBLE OPINION.

With The evidence presented in its entirety. The real reason the supporters and the Parents of the  left alone every night children and babies, is; they would have been charged, which they should have been anyway. They would have been public hate figures for being cruel selfish parents, they would have received zero sympathy -and all that JAZZ that they so enjoyed while their child allegedly suffered at the hands of a ‘suspected paedo gang’ would NOT have been afforded to them.
  It was only after the initial ‘discussion’ with the press that the real version of what happened and could not have happened came to light.  They never mentioned unlocked doors or leaving the children alone every night or that was the decision made BEFORE they even left the UK.
The parents turned the attention from them -onto the lazy lousy PJ.  Greattttttt PR… Poor Maddie collateral damage?

It would be very interesting if the police do actually find someone to testify MBM was abducted from the street- How will the parents deal with THAT publicity I wonder.

https://youtu.be/epZEpwVXgyw  You may wish to check this out - The McCanns Versus The Media - broadcast on the first anniversary. This slice is only 15mins long, but it gives an interesting insight into the media from several viewpoints, including the Portuguese one.
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Offline Miss Taken Identity

Re: Seems woke and wandered back in favour again.
« Reply #1361 on: June 10, 2019, 12:01:00 PM »
Perhaps Kate will have to admit that she did indeed make a mistake,

"... I'm sure people will learn from our mistake, if you want to call it that."
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/1559517/Madeleine-McCanns-mother-recalls-last-chat.html
 

What would supporters call it now that even Kate can't be sure?

"People have said we are the unluckiest couple in the world and we are. That night runs over and over in my mind and I'm sure people will learn from our mistake, if you want to call it that."

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/1559517/Madeleine-McCanns-mother-recalls-last-chat.html

'Never underestimate the power of stupid people'... George Carlin

Offline faithlilly

Re: Seems woke and wandered back in favour again.
« Reply #1362 on: June 10, 2019, 01:43:18 PM »
There is no evidence of anybody passing through the window so raising the shutter makes no sense. It wastes time they wouldn't have and is too risky with sleeping children feet from it.

Further if the abductor had been watching the group, as is postulated by the supporters, they would know that the group passed the window to get to their own apartments. Would they take the chance of one of the group seeing the window open and raising the alarm ?
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Offline jassi

Re: Seems woke and wandered back in favour again.
« Reply #1363 on: June 10, 2019, 01:58:03 PM »
Further if the abductor had been watching the group, as is postulated by the supporters, they would know that the group passed the window to get to their own apartments. Would they take the chance of one of the group seeing the window open and raising the alarm ?

Not only that, but Jimmy would have observed that parents were going up to the window to listen, so opening it would have been a big no no - IMO
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Offline pathfinder73

Re: Seems woke and wandered back in favour again.
« Reply #1364 on: June 10, 2019, 02:00:02 PM »
Further if the abductor had been watching the group, as is postulated by the supporters, they would know that the group passed the window to get to their own apartments. Would they take the chance of one of the group seeing the window open and raising the alarm ?

Whichever way you look at it no normal abductor would raise them. [Rest off topic]
« Last Edit: June 10, 2019, 05:23:57 PM by Robittybob1 »
Smithman carrying a child in his arms checked his watch after passing the Smith family and the time was 10:03. Both are still unidentified 10 years later.