Seems woke and wandered back in favour again.

[The General]

Jimmy took care to close the gate, child gate, door & curtain behind him.
He was a fastidious man, our Jimmy.

Suffice to say, this wasn't Jimmy's first rodeo. He was clearly a master of his trade.
Special Forces trained, no doubt; Spetsnaz, Delta, SAS probably. Deffo wasn't working the checkout at Baptista.

[Holly Goodhead]

Just Googled 'Toddler wandered off and found barefoot' which throws up numerous cases.  It would seem this is far more common that stranger abduction. 

I can't think of another British child abducted by a stranger/long-term missing from a holiday resort other than Ben Needham. 

[Holly Goodhead]

As I understand it KM dismisses the idea MM woke and wandered as MM did not take her blanket and Cuddle Cat.  Also she said she found the patio door and curtain closed which she thought MM would not do.  How can she be so sure? 

[jassi]

She can only be sure if she knows what happened.  IMO

[Wonderfulspam]

As I understand it KM dismisses the idea MM woke and wandered as MM did not take her blanket and Cuddle Cat.  Also she said she found the patio door and curtain closed which she thought MM would not do.  How can she be so sure?

The McCanns dismiss woke and wandered because the window & shutter were open, according to Kate.

Also, the back patio door had a child gate at the top of the stairs.

I'll let Kate explain.....


@22.50

https://youtu.be/WLvnfcl-Zkg?t=1370

[Erngath]

She can only be sure if she knows what happened.  IMO

And she is sure of what?

[Holly Goodhead]

In the front door, into bedroom, pick Maddie up, back out the front door with her. 
About 15 seconds I recon.

Children can sleep very deeply so I guess its possible she didn't wake and allowed a stranger to carry her out.

According to KM the patio door was closed and the curtain pulled.  If this is accurate the abductor would need to hold MM whilst he/she pulled the curtain and slid the door closed before negotiating what appears to me to be a narrow set of steep stairs. 

[The General]

As I understand it KM dismisses the idea MM woke and wandered as MM did not take her blanket and Cuddle Cat.  Also she said she found the patio door and curtain closed which she thought MM would not do.  How can she be so sure?

There's a lot of store put in to Cuddle Cat and it's importance was pushed by Kate. Did the twins have a comfort item? Did anyone see MM with it at any point, certainly not clambering up the steps of the plane or on the bus.

[Wonderfulspam]

Children can sleep very deeply so I guess its possible she didn't wake and allowed a stranger to carry her out.

According to KM the patio door was closed and the curtain pulled.  If this is accurate the abductor would need to hold MM whilst he/she pulled the curtain and slid the door closed before negotiating what appears to me to be a narrow set of steep stairs.

Yes, closing the child gate & gate at the bottom of the stairs in the process, as all were found closed when Kate went to do her 10pm check.

[Erngath]

Children can sleep very deeply so I guess its possible she didn't wake and allowed a stranger to carry her out.

According to KM the patio door was closed and the curtain pulled.  If this is accurate the abductor would need to hold MM whilst he/she pulled the curtain and slid the door closed before negotiating what appears to me to be a narrow set of steep stairs.

The dreadfully sad  case of little Alesha McPhail shows all of this is possible.
Taken from her bed and removed from her grandparents home.

[Erngath]

There's a lot of store put in to Cuddle Cat and it's importance was pushed by Kate. Did the twins have a comfort item? Did anyone see MM with it at any point, certainly not clambering up the steps of the pane or on the bus.

Good Heavens any parent knows that a comfort item for sleeping or at a moment when the comfort is required will never be jeopardized in any journey when it could be lost.

[Holly Goodhead]

She can only be sure if she knows what happened.  IMO

I don't find the parents reliable witnesses.  If they are not directly responsible for MM's disappearance they will surely feel indirectly responsible for leaving their children unsupervised and want to believe they will be reunited with MM. 

Believing MM was abducted is imo shifting the blame ie someone came in and took MM as opposed to MM woke and wandered.   

[Erngath]

I don't find the parents reliable witnesses.  If they are not directly responsible for MM's disappearance they will surely feel indirectly responsible for leaving their children unsupervised and want to believe they will be reunited with MM. 

Believing MM was abducted is imo shifting the blame ie someone came in and took MM as opposed to MM woke and wandered.   

I'm sure they do feel indirectly responsible.
Much as I do think most parents of children who have been abducted, murdered and missing feel indirectly responsible.

[The General]

Good Heavens any parent knows that a comfort item for sleeping or at a moment when the comfort is required will never be jeopardized in any journey when it could be lost.

I'm any parent. That's not my experience. In fact quite the opposite. A 3 year old getting on a plane......

[Erngath]

I'm any parent. That's not my experience. In fact quite the opposite.

The opposite of what?