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Re: Podcasts by Mark Saunokonoko of 9News.
« Reply #375 on: March 26, 2019, 09:51:40 PM »
an imprtant point is taht mark Saukanoko says in his podcast that if maddie dna is found in the car it palces maddies body in the car...that is factually incorrect and to me shows he has neither the knowledge or the skills to be hosting a podcast on this case
At this stage I tend to agree with Mark Suanokonoko.   DNA testing is sensitive enough to pick up 100 cells left behind.  There is a difference between 100 cells from 1 individual compared to 100 cells from 100 individuals all contributing 1 cell each.

OK Madeleine's shoes carried in the boot may lose cells into the boot but I doubt if that type of transfer has ever yielded an identifiable amount of DNA transferred.

Can anyone show me an example of transference?
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Re: Podcasts by Mark Saunokonoko of 9News.
« Reply #376 on: March 26, 2019, 10:08:45 PM »
At this stage I tend to agree with Mark Suanokonoko.   DNA testing is sensitive enough to pick up 100 cells left behind.  There is a difference between 100 cells from 1 individual compared to 100 cells from 100 individuals all contributing 1 cell each.

OK Madeleine's shoes carried in the boot may lose cells into the boot but I doubt if that type of transfer has ever yielded an identifiable amount of DNA transferred.

Can anyone show me an example of transference?

You agree with Mark... Just about every court decision does not... I'm astonished you don't realize this.  ..this us exactly  why the case Re perlin I posted today was thrown out... And the Omagh bombing case was thrown out... Maddies DNA found in the car does not place maddies body in the car.. Fgs.. Do some research and educate yourself
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Re: Podcasts by Mark Saunokonoko of 9News.
« Reply #377 on: March 26, 2019, 10:10:18 PM »
At this stage I tend to agree with Mark Suanokonoko.   DNA testing is sensitive enough to pick up 100 cells left behind.  There is a difference between 100 cells from 1 individual compared to 100 cells from 100 individuals all contributing 1 cell each.

OK Madeleine's shoes carried in the boot may lose cells into the boot but I doubt if that type of transfer has ever yielded an identifiable amount of DNA transferred.

Can anyone show me an example of transference?

https://www.wired.com/story/dna-transfer-framed-murder/


Bear in mind Grime used dog leads at all the places he deployed the dogs. DNA from gloves used in 5A could quite easily have been transferred via the lead, onto latex gloves & into the areas in the Scenic boot where he was seen tapping areas for Keela to scent.

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Re: Podcasts by Mark Saunokonoko of 9News.
« Reply #378 on: March 26, 2019, 10:13:56 PM »
Then there was this case of scent transfer which sent a police force looking for the wrong person.
http://content.time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,1888126,00.html

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Re: Podcasts by Mark Saunokonoko of 9News.
« Reply #379 on: March 27, 2019, 05:55:20 AM »
Then there was this case of scent transfer which sent a police force looking for the wrong person.
http://content.time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,1888126,00.html

As I have frequently said, DNA is not to be trusted.

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Re: Podcasts by Mark Saunokonoko of 9News.
« Reply #380 on: March 27, 2019, 07:50:50 AM »
https://www.wired.com/story/dna-transfer-framed-murder/


Bear in mind Grime used dog leads at all the places he deployed the dogs. DNA from gloves used in 5A could quite easily have been transferred via the lead, onto latex gloves & into the areas in the Scenic boot where he was seen tapping areas for Keela to scent.
That's quite a stretch, particularly given that he couldn't possibly have contaminated the apartment in the same manner.
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Re: Podcasts by Mark Saunokonoko of 9News.
« Reply #381 on: March 27, 2019, 08:37:39 AM »
https://www.wired.com/story/dna-transfer-framed-murder/


Bear in mind Grime used dog leads at all the places he deployed the dogs. DNA from gloves used in 5A could quite easily have been transferred via the lead, onto latex gloves & into the areas in the Scenic boot where he was seen tapping areas for Keela to scent.

Keela detected human blood, not DNA.
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Offline Davel

Re: Podcasts by Mark Saunokonoko of 9News.
« Reply #382 on: March 27, 2019, 10:45:23 AM »
Keela detected human blood, not DNA.

You are stating opinion as fact again.... No confirmation of blood... That's the true fact
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Re: Podcasts by Mark Saunokonoko of 9News.
« Reply #383 on: March 27, 2019, 12:30:46 PM »
You are stating opinion as fact again.... No confirmation of blood... That's the true fact

Keela was never trained to detect DNA, so the idea that she would was pure speculation, don't you agree?
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Re: Podcasts by Mark Saunokonoko of 9News.
« Reply #384 on: March 27, 2019, 12:49:45 PM »
Keela was never trained to detect DNA, so the idea that she would was pure speculation, don't you agree?
The idea that the sample is blood is speculation...keela alerted to an area...a residue was found....we are not even certain it was this residue keela alerted to...but certainly teh residue was not identified as blood
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Re: Podcasts by Mark Saunokonoko of 9News.
« Reply #385 on: March 27, 2019, 01:23:58 PM »
The idea that the sample is blood is speculation...keela alerted to an area...a residue was found....we are not even certain it was this residue keela alerted to...but certainly teh residue was not identified as blood

You're extremely sceptical of everyone and everything except the T9, aren't you? Everything they say you accept whether they can support their claims with evidence or not.
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Re: Podcasts by Mark Saunokonoko of 9News.
« Reply #386 on: March 27, 2019, 01:34:53 PM »
You're extremely sceptical of everyone and everything except the T9, aren't you? Everything they say you accept whether they can support their claims with evidence or not.

once again you are posting your opinion as fact...and once again you are wrong....I dont think the T9 are involved based on the evidence
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Re: Podcasts by Mark Saunokonoko of 9News.
« Reply #387 on: March 27, 2019, 02:16:58 PM »
once again you are posting your opinion as fact...and once again you are wrong....I dont think the T9 are involved based on the evidence

Based on your opinion of the evidence, which other's don't share. I certainly don't.
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Offline Davel

Re: Podcasts by Mark Saunokonoko of 9News.
« Reply #388 on: March 27, 2019, 02:30:48 PM »
Based on your opinion of the evidence, which other's don't share. I certainly don't.
Of course others do share my opinion... Certainly SY and the PJ appear to.. And that's what's imoprtant
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Offline Faithlilly

Re: Podcasts by Mark Saunokonoko of 9News.
« Reply #389 on: March 27, 2019, 02:47:58 PM »
Of course others do share my opinion... Certainly SY and the PJ appear to.. And that's what's imoprtant

You know absolutely nothing about the opinion of the PJ and SY.

Due to judicial secrecy the PJ arenít allowed to talk and SY canít even if the wanted, or were, asked to as Portugal has primacy in this case. Thatís why we were told in August 2007 that the parents were not suspects when we now know that they were. Why some appear to ignore this point is confusing.
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