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Re: Podcasts by Mark Saunokonoko of 9News.
« Reply #450 on: March 27, 2019, 08:30:43 PM »
not sure what relevance taht has...it could be taht once the cadaver dog gets tired...he alerts knowing he will get a reward...may expalin all the unconfirmed alerts
While Eddie or Keela were working I never saw them being rewarded.  Maybe they don't get rewarded on actual forensic searches.

Which seems right IMO as the handler can never be certain the dog is correct or not.
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« Reply #451 on: March 27, 2019, 08:34:26 PM »
While Eddie or Keela were working I never saw them being rewarded.  Maybe they don't get rewarded on actual forensic searches.

Which seems right IMO as the handler can never be certain the dog is correct or not.

need to ask Grime..i dont trust the alerts...particularly cuddle cat
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Re: Podcasts by Mark Saunokonoko of 9News.
« Reply #452 on: March 27, 2019, 08:38:30 PM »
need to ask Grime..i dont trust the alerts...particularly cuddle cat
Does Saunokonoko mention cuddle cat?  Cuddle Cat is off topic if not.
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« Reply #453 on: March 27, 2019, 09:02:00 PM »
While Eddie or Keela were working I never saw them being rewarded.  Maybe they don't get rewarded on actual forensic searches.

Which seems right IMO as the handler can never be certain the dog is correct or not.

They are tested to make sure they are correct. If they false alert in tests then bye bye. Their tennis ball is their reward.

"Apartment H5

We searched this apartment and the dog hasn't shown any interest in this particular apartment, apart from around the table, where there was a tennis ball which is how we reward the dog for finding things, as soon as we removed the tennis ball the interest was gone. And so it was a negative search."

http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/MARTIN_GRIMES.htm
Smithman carrying a child in his arms checked his watch after passing the Smith family and the time was 10:03. Both are still unidentified 10 years later.

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Re: Podcasts by Mark Saunokonoko of 9News.
« Reply #454 on: March 27, 2019, 09:23:19 PM »
They are tested to make sure they are correct. If they false alert in tests then bye bye. Their tennis ball is their reward.

"Apartment H5

We searched this apartment and the dog hasn't shown any interest in this particular apartment, apart from around the table, where there was a tennis ball which is how we reward the dog for finding things, as soon as we removed the tennis ball the interest was gone. And so it was a negative search."

http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/MARTIN_GRIMES.htm

I took that to mean that the tennis ball wasn't brought there for the purposes of rewarding the dog.

Rather the dog found a tennis ball in the apartment and hence was interested in playing with it.
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« Reply #455 on: March 27, 2019, 11:09:37 PM »
Obviously because Martin Grime didn't put it there.
Smithman carrying a child in his arms checked his watch after passing the Smith family and the time was 10:03. Both are still unidentified 10 years later.

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« Reply #456 on: March 27, 2019, 11:21:47 PM »
They are tested to make sure they are correct. If they false alert in tests then bye bye. Their tennis ball is their reward.

"Apartment H5

We searched this apartment and the dog hasn't shown any interest in this particular apartment, apart from around the table, where there was a tennis ball which is how we reward the dog for finding things, as soon as we removed the tennis ball the interest was gone. And so it was a negative search."

http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/MARTIN_GRIMES.htm

Eddie showed a great deal of interest in something under a single bed in 5D, to the point that he was repeatedly ignoring Grime's orders. What was under the bed & why did Grime fail to mention it?

Edited to alter apartment number.
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« Reply #457 on: March 28, 2019, 12:04:53 AM »
Eddie showed a great deal of interest in something under a single bed in 5H, to the point that he was repeatedly ignoring Grime's orders. What was under the bed & why did Grime fail to mention it?

Did he alert ?
'She ( Kate) did, she brought it up and that she, I mean, this is awful in retrospect as well, she asked what my opinion was on, erm, tut, on whether they were okay leaving the, the doors unlocked, because she was saying 'Is it better that if Madeleine wakes up she can get out and find us or', erm, 'or locking it and, you know, finding that we're not there and the door's locked if she woke up', because Madeleine had woken up, what I thought was the night before. Erm, tut, and it was in that context really, just asking, you know, what I thought. So it was obviously something that was on her mind a bit, huh'.

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« Reply #458 on: March 28, 2019, 12:28:06 AM »
Did he alert ?

No, he didn't alert but appeared quite desperate to get to whatever was under the bed. He didn't alert near the sofa in 5A living room until he was allowed behind it...

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Re: Podcasts by Mark Saunokonoko of 9News.
« Reply #459 on: March 28, 2019, 01:42:34 AM »
Eddie showed a great deal of interest in something under a single bed in 5H, to the point that he was repeatedly ignoring Grime's orders. What was under the bed & why did Grime fail to mention it?
It may have been a pair of knickers. 
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« Reply #460 on: March 28, 2019, 01:43:23 AM »
Did he alert ?
He was never allowed to get close enough.
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Re: Podcasts by Mark Saunokonoko of 9News.
« Reply #461 on: March 28, 2019, 04:00:52 AM »
Eddie showed a great deal of interest in something under a single bed in 5H, to the point that he was repeatedly ignoring Grime's orders. What was under the bed & why did Grime fail to mention it?
From memory it was in Russell O'Brien's apartment where the object was under the bed. 5D
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« Reply #462 on: March 28, 2019, 01:14:07 PM »
No, he didn't alert but appeared quite desperate to get to whatever was under the bed. He didn't alert near the sofa in 5A living room until he was allowed behind it...

If he didnít alert then it is not relevant.
'She ( Kate) did, she brought it up and that she, I mean, this is awful in retrospect as well, she asked what my opinion was on, erm, tut, on whether they were okay leaving the, the doors unlocked, because she was saying 'Is it better that if Madeleine wakes up she can get out and find us or', erm, 'or locking it and, you know, finding that we're not there and the door's locked if she woke up', because Madeleine had woken up, what I thought was the night before. Erm, tut, and it was in that context really, just asking, you know, what I thought. So it was obviously something that was on her mind a bit, huh'.

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« Reply #463 on: March 28, 2019, 01:54:57 PM »
From memory it was in Russell O'Brien's apartment where the object was under the bed. 5D

Yes, you are correct. Apologies, I will amend my post.

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« Reply #464 on: March 28, 2019, 02:00:55 PM »
If he didnít alert then it is not relevant.

IMO because the dog showed interest in what was under the bed, the dog should have been granted access to under the bed in 5D. Eddie was not allowed to free-search in several locations, the search was controlled by the handler. Grime's diction changed from "go find, Eddie" to "no, Eddie, Eddie come (here) on many occasions - the latter instruction was frequently ignored by the dog.