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Offline G-Unit

Re: Podcasts by Mark Saunokonoko of 9News.
« Reply #975 on: April 05, 2019, 10:56:55 PM »
It is not inexplicable.. It's, explicable.. It us either innocent IR not.. Were the deletions significant.. No so it's innocent

Are you claiming that the deletions were investigated and were not found to be sugnificant?


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Offline Davel

Re: Podcasts by Mark Saunokonoko of 9News.
« Reply #976 on: April 05, 2019, 11:00:59 PM »
Are you claiming that the deletions were investigated and were not found to be sugnificant?

I'm claiming there is no evidence the deletions were significant.. Not sugnificant..  Perhaps the pj were just to ineot to investigate them
« Last Edit: April 05, 2019, 11:04:03 PM by Davel »
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Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: Podcasts by Mark Saunokonoko of 9News.
« Reply #977 on: April 05, 2019, 11:03:50 PM »
Are you claiming that the deletions were investigated and were not found to be sugnificant?
Given that most sceptics here believe Madeleine died accidentally some time after 5.30pm on May 3rd 2007 and was disposed of between 10pm and 10.25 pm, which are the incriminating deleted calls that trouble them so and why?
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Offline Brietta

Re: Podcasts by Mark Saunokonoko of 9News.
« Reply #978 on: April 05, 2019, 11:07:13 PM »
It's the act that is inexplicable. I can't think of an innocuous, reasonable explanation why desperate parents would do that.
And it would not be beyond the reason of a diligent investigating officer to want to know the reason. Hypothetically speaking, when all options were on the table (and may be they still are) and the investigation was in its infancy, upon discovering this fact, I can see why it would arouse suspicion. Because it's inexplicable in its context.
I wonder why the Judicial police totally ignored it then?  They didn't find it suspicious ... or they are not as skilled investigators as the internet sleuths who think they have all the answers?

Not to worry ... I'm sure all will be revealed on Monday when Mark broadcasts his latest

7 SEPTEMBER QUESTIONS TO KATE McCANN
11   Did you have a mobile phone with you at that moment?
22   Whom did you telephone after the discovery?
23   Did you call Sky News?
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7542939.stm     See ... no worries there ... so why the fora song and dance about it?
The remit of Operation Grange is to investigate ...  "(as if the abduction occurred in the UK)"

Offline G-Unit

Re: Podcasts by Mark Saunokonoko of 9News.
« Reply #979 on: April 05, 2019, 11:28:11 PM »
I'm claiming there is no evidence the deletions were significant.. Not sugnificant..  Perhaps the pj were just to ineot to investigate them

If there's no evidence one way or the other then you don't know if they were or not.
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Offline Angelo222

Re: Podcasts by Mark Saunokonoko of 9News.
« Reply #980 on: April 06, 2019, 01:53:55 AM »
Well they've had about 11 years.. No rush it seems... LOL.. when are you expecting some action.. LOL

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« Last Edit: April 06, 2019, 02:01:02 AM by Angelo222 »
De troothe has the annoying habit of coming to the surface just when you least expect it!!

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Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: Podcasts by Mark Saunokonoko of 9News.
« Reply #981 on: April 06, 2019, 07:27:32 AM »
Are you claiming that the deletions were investigated and were not found to be sugnificant?
Which specific deletions (ie date and time) do you think are possibly significant and how do they fit in with the theory of accidental death and body occultation on the night of the 3rd?
"The answer is that no-one here believes the parents were directly involved in MM's disappearance" - G-Unit.

Offline G-Unit

Re: Podcasts by Mark Saunokonoko of 9News.
« Reply #982 on: April 06, 2019, 08:05:05 AM »
Which specific deletions (ie date and time) do you think are possibly significant and how do they fit in with the theory of accidental death and body occultation on the night of the 3rd?

It's not the individual calls, it's the decision to delete them which is puzzling.

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Offline Brietta

Re: Podcasts by Mark Saunokonoko of 9News.
« Reply #983 on: April 06, 2019, 09:24:34 AM »
As we embark on anticipating yet another 'investigative questioning' of the McCanns and their friends via the podcast wheeze this time allegedly the resurrection of ... phone deletions and their significance ...

With reference to https://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/PHONE_TEXTS.htm it seems that the Judicial police had not the slightest interest in deletions of any kind from anyone's phone.
Their interest as far as the investigation was concerned was in the location and therefore as a tracking device.

It is very likely this is the sort of analysis which brought the latest arguidos in Madeleine's case to the attention of Scotland Yard
The remit of Operation Grange is to investigate ...  "(as if the abduction occurred in the UK)"

Offline jassi

Re: Podcasts by Mark Saunokonoko of 9News.
« Reply #984 on: April 06, 2019, 09:37:31 AM »
As we embark on anticipating yet another 'investigative questioning' of the McCanns and their friends via the podcast wheeze this time allegedly the resurrection of ... phone deletions and their significance ...

With reference to https://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/PHONE_TEXTS.htm it seems that the Judicial police had not the slightest interest in deletions of any kind from anyone's phone.
Their interest as far as the investigation was concerned was in the location and therefore as a tracking device.

It is very likely this is the sort of analysis which brought the latest arguidos in Madeleine's case to the attention of Scotland Yard

Are there some new ones, or are they ex-arguidos?
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Online ShiningInLuz

Re: Podcasts by Mark Saunokonoko of 9News.
« Reply #985 on: April 06, 2019, 01:52:34 PM »
If you study cellphones in the Luz area on 3 May 2007, you come to an excruciatingly simple conclusion.

They divide Luz into west Luz and east Luz, nothing more.

What is the importance?   &%%6 Lots.

Known phone calls locate Gerry and Kate in east Luz.  Tannerman was in east Luz.  Smithman on the other hand was in west Luz.

One ex-arguido lived in west Luz at the time.  Phone calls might actually clear him of involvement.

Another lived 'on the border', so I can't be sure whether his cellphone traffic would show up as east or west or indeed both.

Robert Murat claims he was in east Luz at the time.  Consequently, any cellphone traffic he had that night would have failed to rule him out.

Location information is an extremely crude tool.  Timing and deletions are much more informative.
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Offline Faithlilly

Re: Podcasts by Mark Saunokonoko of 9News.
« Reply #986 on: April 06, 2019, 02:33:30 PM »
If you study cellphones in the Luz area on 3 May 2007, you come to an excruciatingly simple conclusion.

They divide Luz into west Luz and east Luz, nothing more.

What is the importance?   &%%6 Lots.

Known phone calls locate Gerry and Kate in east Luz.  Tannerman was in east Luz.  Smithman on the other hand was in west Luz.

One ex-arguido lived in west Luz at the time.  Phone calls might actually clear him of involvement.

Another lived 'on the border', so I can't be sure whether his cellphone traffic would show up as east or west or indeed both.

Robert Murat claims he was in east Luz at the time.  Consequently, any cellphone traffic he had that night would have failed to rule him out.

Location information is an extremely crude tool.  Timing and deletions are much more informative.


If Gerry, and his cellphone, had been in west Luz at about 10pm on the 3rd of May would police be able to tell using pings ?

« Last Edit: April 06, 2019, 02:54:08 PM by Faithlilly »
'She ( Kate) did, she brought it up and that she, I mean, this is awful in retrospect as well, she asked what my opinion was on, erm, tut, on whether they were okay leaving the, the doors unlocked, because she was saying 'Is it better that if Madeleine wakes up she can get out and find us or', erm, 'or locking it and, you know, finding that we're not there and the door's locked if she woke up', because Madeleine had woken up, what I thought was the night before. Erm, tut, and it was in that context really, just asking, you know, what I thought. So it was obviously something that was on her mind a bit, huh'.

Offline G-Unit

Re: Podcasts by Mark Saunokonoko of 9News.
« Reply #987 on: April 06, 2019, 02:50:42 PM »
If you study cellphones in the Luz area on 3 May 2007, you come to an excruciatingly simple conclusion.

They divide Luz into west Luz and east Luz, nothing more.

What is the importance?   &%%6 Lots.

Known phone calls locate Gerry and Kate in east Luz.  Tannerman was in east Luz.  Smithman on the other hand was in west Luz.

One ex-arguido lived in west Luz at the time.  Phone calls might actually clear him of involvement.

Another lived 'on the border', so I can't be sure whether his cellphone traffic would show up as east or west or indeed both.

Robert Murat claims he was in east Luz at the time.  Consequently, any cellphone traffic he had that night would have failed to rule him out.

Location information is an extremely crude tool.  Timing and deletions are much more informative.

Was there any more interest in the number described as 'Irish', do you know?

3rd May

this same number (unknown user), at  21h01 and 21h16 also received two calls from an Irish number, 353872... (whose user can be determined if justified).
https://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/MOBILE_PHONE_ANALYSIS.htm

There seemed to be three numbers interacting, but 'Irish' doesn't suggest any of the arguidos OG were unterested in..
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Online ShiningInLuz

Re: Podcasts by Mark Saunokonoko of 9News.
« Reply #988 on: April 06, 2019, 03:05:07 PM »

If Gerry, and his cellphone, had been in west Luz at about 10pm on the 3rd of May would police be able to tell using pings ?
Not by what I understand as 'pings'.  I consider those to be signals between a mast and a cellphone, whereby the network establishes which cell the phone is in.  In the old days, we called these 'handshakes'.

There is nothing in the PJ-Files to suggest that such pings were requested or supplied, or indeed that the networks even recorded them.

It would take a phone call or SMS to locate a person's cellphone from the records.

Need to run.  There is a doggy prog that has just started on TV.

 &^&*%
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Offline Faithlilly

Re: Podcasts by Mark Saunokonoko of 9News.
« Reply #989 on: April 06, 2019, 03:23:26 PM »
Not by what I understand as 'pings'.  I consider those to be signals between a mast and a cellphone, whereby the network establishes which cell the phone is in.  In the old days, we called these 'handshakes'.

There is nothing in the PJ-Files to suggest that such pings were requested or supplied, or indeed that the networks even recorded them.

It would take a phone call or SMS to locate a person's cellphone from the records.

Need to run.  There is a doggy prog that has just started on TV.

 &^&*%

It would be interesting to know if the networks did record them backin 2007 and if OG or the PJ had requested them this time. Wasn’t there talk of phone records being requested?
'She ( Kate) did, she brought it up and that she, I mean, this is awful in retrospect as well, she asked what my opinion was on, erm, tut, on whether they were okay leaving the, the doors unlocked, because she was saying 'Is it better that if Madeleine wakes up she can get out and find us or', erm, 'or locking it and, you know, finding that we're not there and the door's locked if she woke up', because Madeleine had woken up, what I thought was the night before. Erm, tut, and it was in that context really, just asking, you know, what I thought. So it was obviously something that was on her mind a bit, huh'.