Author Topic: Is this new suspect revelation just too convenient given the 12th anniversary?  (Read 35035 times)

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Offline Mr Gray

Yes.

amaral may well realise the mccanns are not involved but he has too much to lose to admit it

Offline Robittybob1

this is an E-fit  of the person 

That does look a lot like Martin Ney IMO. 

But there are other reports they are not investigating Martin Ney but someone else.
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Offline kmc

this is an E-fit  of the person 

That does look a lot like Martin Ney IMO. 

But there are other reports they are not investigating Martin Ney but someone else.

Also, worth googling Andreas V and Mario S.  Mario S would have been pretty young 12 years ago but Andreas V bear a resemblance to one or two of the e-fits.  (There is only one image of him where his eyes aren't blocked out).  Will be interesting to eventually find out who the guy they are looking into is.

Offline Robittybob1

Also, worth googling Andreas V and Mario S.  Mario S would have been pretty young 12 years ago but Andreas V bear a resemblance to one or two of the e-fits.  (There is only one image of him where his eyes aren't blocked out).  Will be interesting to eventually find out who the guy they are looking into is.
Can you give me their full names please
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Offline kmc

Can you give me their full names please

They don't provide them - but there are quite a few articles - both guys are on remand and a lot of evidence has gone missing.

Like Ney, Andreas V was allowed to foster a child:

"Despite this allegation against him, Andreas V. was granted permission to become the guardian of a six-year-old foster daughter that same year.
The local Youth Welfare Office has now launched an investigation into how Andreas V. was allowed to become a foster parent.
When contacted by CNN, the Youth Welfare Office confirmed Andreas V. had been reported twice in 2016 for "possible child endangerment," even as Andreas V was regularly being assessed by youth welfare officers. In October of that year, however, the youth welfare office found no evidence of child endangerment and granted him guardianship of the foster child."

I put links on the page before....seems like they have footage from 2008, which made me wonder where he may have been before.

May or may not be connected but an interesting case just because of how much evidence has gone missing.

Offline faithlilly

Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline kmc

Just some of the suspects over the years that came to nothing.

2018. https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/1046946/maddie-mccann-disappearance-police-meets-parents-new-leads

2017. https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/police-identify-new-female-suspect-madeleine-mccann-case-disappearance-portugal-metropolitan-police-a7711226.html

2016. https://nypost.com/2019/05/03/portuguese-police-probing-new-suspect-in-madeleine-mccann-disappearance/

2015. Scaling down of OG team.

2014. Madeleine McCann inquiry: Two suspects questioned http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-28101400

2013. https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/madeleine-mccann-suspect-martin-ney-paedophile-police-investigation-a8900256.html  Martin Ney (again )

2012. https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/315122/Madeleine-McCann-spotted-in-Spain

2011. https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/232865/Madeleine-Portugese-truck-driver-quizzed

2010. https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/172651/MADELEINE-McCANN-EXCLUSIVE-NO-1-SUSPECT-IS-ON-VIDEO

2009. http://edition.cnn.com/2009/CRIME/08/06/madeleine.mccann/index.html

2007-2008 The McCanns and Robert Murat.

Most of the the suspects above were either those that the parent’s PIs generated or were said to be being investigated by OG ( who if they are true has been leaking almost since it’s inception ).

2010.

Not my point.  Whether these guys are the suspects or not is not what worries me.... I just want to know how these types of cases are being handled and how two men can rape that many 4-13 year old children and the police "lose" most of the evidence.   

Offline faithlilly

Not my point.  Whether these guys are the suspects or not is not what worries me.... I just want to know how these types of cases are being handled and how two men can rape that many 4-13 year old children and the police "lose" most of the evidence.

I wasn’t addressing your point K.

Do you think losing evidence is going to be something we need worry about in this case ? If not I can’t see how it’s relevant.
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline kmc

I wasn’t addressing your point K.

Do you think losing evidence is going to be something we need worry about in this case ? If not I can’t see how it’s relevant.

Gosh....I think it is really sad that we live in a world where it is only "relevant" if it affects a "certain case".  To be honest, if Kate and Gerry accidentally killed Madeleine then there is not a lot any of us can do about it - all the messages and ranting in the world aren't really going to help anyone or change anything.  We may get them banged up - but quite honestly seeing Kate recently in the press - she looks like she is already serving a life sentence.

Yet I would have hoped that there were enough decent folk on here, to use such a platform to highlight the plight of  children who don't have the luxury of a wider society finding their story relevant.

Offline faithlilly

Gosh....I think it is really sad that we live in a world where it is only "relevant" if it affects a "certain case".  To be honest, if Kate and Gerry accidentally killed Madeleine then there is not a lot any of us can do about it - all the messages and ranting in the world aren't really going to help anyone or change anything.  We may get them banged up - but quite honestly seeing Kate recently in the press - she looks like she is already serving a life sentence.

Yet I would have hoped that there were enough decent folk on here, to use such a platform to highlight the plight of  children who don't have the luxury of a wider society finding their story relevant.

There are other threads for highlighting the plight of children however that wasn’t what you were doing. You were highlighting the fact that evidence seems to have gone missing in the case of two individuals and that is simply not relevant in this case.

As to the parents, they and their supporters have waged a 12 year war of attrition on anyone who dared question them. Do I feel sympathy for them....no they have made their bed. I’m afraid all my empathy is for a poor little girl who left to go on holiday and never came home.
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline kmc

There are other threads for highlighting the plight of children however that wasn’t what you were doing. You were highlighting the fact that evidence seems to have gone missing in the case of two individuals and that is simply not relevant in this case.

As to the parents, they and their supporters have waged a 12 year war of attrition on anyone who dared question them. Do I feel sympathy for them....no they have made their bed. I’m afraid all my empathy is for a poor little girl who left to go on holiday and never came home.

In the grand scheme of things,  neither yours nor my opinion are really of any relevance...however, the current state of the European Justice system is most certainly relevant to this case and every other case that ever comes to trial.  It's not rocket science.  Good night.

Offline Robittybob1

In the grand scheme of things,  neither yours nor my opinion are really of any relevance...however, the current state of the European Justice system is most certainly relevant to this case and every other case that ever comes to trial.  It's not rocket science.  Good night.
What you are describing is harder than rocket science, for rockets follow the laws of physics, but cases are resolved through a series of opinions and vary from time to time.
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Offline Vertigo Swirl

There are other threads for highlighting the plight of children however that wasn’t what you were doing. You were highlighting the fact that evidence seems to have gone missing in the case of two individuals and that is simply not relevant in this case.

As to the parents, they and their supporters have waged a 12 year war of attrition on anyone who dared question them. Do I feel sympathy for them....no they have made their bed. I’m afraid all my empathy is for a poor little girl who left to go on holiday and never came home.
This last paragraph reflects rather badly on you IMO.  If and when it is proven that the war being waged by sceptics against the MCCanns and their supporters was entirely unjust I have no doubt you will still find a way to justify it.  You’re beyond reason IMO.
Not a handwriting expert.

Offline jassi

Just some of the suspects over the years that came to nothing.

2018. https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/1046946/maddie-mccann-disappearance-police-meets-parents-new-leads

2017. https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/police-identify-new-female-suspect-madeleine-mccann-case-disappearance-portugal-metropolitan-police-a7711226.html

2016. https://nypost.com/2019/05/03/portuguese-police-probing-new-suspect-in-madeleine-mccann-disappearance/

2015. Scaling down of OG team.

2014. Madeleine McCann inquiry: Two suspects questioned http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-28101400

2013. https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/madeleine-mccann-suspect-martin-ney-paedophile-police-investigation-a8900256.html  Martin Ney (again )

2012. https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/315122/Madeleine-McCann-spotted-in-Spain

2011. https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/232865/Madeleine-Portugese-truck-driver-quizzed

2010. https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/172651/MADELEINE-McCANN-EXCLUSIVE-NO-1-SUSPECT-IS-ON-VIDEO

2009. http://edition.cnn.com/2009/CRIME/08/06/madeleine.mccann/index.html

2007-2008 The McCanns and Robert Murat.

Most of the the suspects above were either those that the parent’s PIs generated or were said to be being investigated by OG ( who if they are true has been leaking almost since it’s inception ).

2010.

Perhaps they weren't very strong, viable leads in the first place

There were some statistics, released years ago, that showed that police, both Portuguese and British have followed up hundreds and hundreds of 'leads' in an attempt to solve this case.
Obviously most, if not all of them proved to be a complete waste of time.
« Last Edit: May 07, 2019, 09:21:34 AM by jassi »
I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -

OG have been pushed out by the Germans who have reserved all the deck chairs for the foreseeable future

Offline ShiningInLuz

This last paragraph reflects rather badly on you IMO.  If and when it is proven that the war being waged by sceptics against the MCCanns and their supporters was entirely unjust I have no doubt you will still find a way to justify it.  You’re beyond reason IMO.

And that, to me, is reminiscent of all sorts of intolerances.  Take your pick - political, racial, religious, and no doubt there are other instances.

Simply because you believe does not give you the right to lecture or harangue others because they do not accept what is merely your opinion.
What's up, old man?